Hazrat Isa A.S.

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Re: Hazrat Isa A.S.

@Mr.Popat

you have your feet in 2 boats. Clear your understanding, and clear your belief regarding Isa(as). At one point, you say hes taken up bodily and rafa’a mean raised him up to himself. Then you say He could also be sleeping and thereby raised in rank ?

The word tawaffee is used before rafa’a, therefore it means taken away, (their soul, as is suggested in the verse 39:42), either by sleep or death. And raf’aa means to raise one status.

You said it means ’ i will take you and raise u up to me '. Thats like repeating same thing.
"i will cause you to die( take your soul away ), and exalt you to myself. "

See the following ahadith to clear your understanding about the word rafa’a. ( exalt you to myself )

Peace Mr.Popat

Even you know from a previous post what my position is … I was merely speaking about alternative translations still being inadequate for us to conclude that Isa (AS) has DIED - (pass tense) …

There is no 2 boats about it … For me Isa (AS) is physically in a heavenly realm … but if he is not based on other suggestions for the translation - even then you cannot conclude that Isa (AS) has died already. The latter idea is grammatically weak and sick … because if something was not to be out of the ordinary then there is no point in mentioning it as if it was out of the ordinary. And the Word of Allah is beyond such positions.