Hazrat Isa A.S.

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Re: Hazrat Isa A.S.

@Mr.Popat

We must see Qur’an to guide us on this issue. We should not just speculate that it could mean this or that. I provided you a verse in which Allah uses the word ‘tawaffee’ which in its literal meaning is ‘taken away’

The Quranic verse is :

39:42 Allah takes away the souls of human beings at the time of their death; and during their sleep of those also that are not yet dead. And then He retains those against which He has decreed death, and sends back the others till an appointed term. In that surely are Signs for a people who reflect

We must only take that word as metaphorically. Where ever the word ‘tawaffee’ is used, its for soul. We cant interpret Qur’an according to our liking. The 2 possibilities of Allah taking up soul is death and sleep. Tell me where did Allah say that he ‘take up’ (tawaffee) someone bodily too? You will not see a single verse where the word tawaffee is used where it did not mean taken one’s soul.

case A and case B is what Allah talks about. In both these cases, the physical body remains on Earth.

Your case C is totally out of question. You just made this up. There is nothing you can back up that statement with.

Peace Mr.Popat

I disagree with your methodology and your general idea of what is allowed in the science of grammar.

When I hear the words “take him” there is no interpretation required … only where there is a context which requires that to be interpreted it is …

You are using the idea of souls being taken by Allah (SWT) as the ONLY types of “taking” permitted by using this verse as an example. Apart from the translation itself not being quite right … you are making a grave error.

a) No where in this verse or elsewhere does it says this is the ONLY way people are taken - or tawaffee occurs.
b) This is the general case, but Isa (AS) is the exception - You will note throughout the Qur’an statements are applied in the pattern of things that normally happen … but they do not overrule the exceptions. It is the agreed understanding of the Qur’an that laws and injunctions are spoken of in the general sense, but specifics about exceptions it is often silent on them.

For this reason if something is absent in the Qur’an then we cannot conclude that it CANNOT happen … only when the Qur’an specifically says something cannot happen we take that as a rule.

So verse 39:42 may omit that information that you seem to be desperately seeking, but I contest whether it is even needed because the meaning of taking as a whole is more obvious than not … If a child read the words “Allah took him” the first thing the child will ask is “where did he take him to?” … No explanation needed. 39:42 qualifies a type of taking for the majority of cases in the Qur’an … but according to the orthodoxy they do not apply to Isa (AS) and there are other verses and hadith to back up that conclusion.