Re: Hazrat Isa A.S.
I will give you a very simple explanation to it. I really hope you do understand.
In jewish tradition, if a prophet is hanged or is crucified, it is thought to be taken as an accursed one. It is mentioned in their scriptures. Jewish wanted to kill Jesus(as) by crucifying him. However, in Quran it has made clear for everyone that they(jews) did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it was made to appear to them as one crucified. Which means, Jesus did not get killed or crucified by the hands of jews. That is very clear. The word you’re translating as ‘allah raised him’, is ‘rafa’a’. It means exalted ones status, or exalted oneself in rank. It is very unfair to use one word and translate it your own way for “ONE” verse but when the same word is used many many times in Quran or even in ahadith, it means ‘raising ones status’. I will give you some verses in that word as well.
There is no mention of physical body taking up in that verse. There is no mention of heaven, nor is there any mention of even sky. It is your assumption that he went to heavens bodily alive. Where is it written? On the contrary, when Allah said "allah exalted him to himself’, it means exalted his status and have given death.
If a person is not killed , nor crucified, is it then automatically understood that one is then gone to heavens physically alive ?
When the word ‘rafa’a’ is used anywhere in Quran or ahadith, it has always meant as in status. Please see the verses below and please do confirm it.
[19:57] And We** exalted him** to a lofty station. <<< this one is for Hazrat Idris (as).
[7:175-176] And relate to them the story of him to whom We gave Our Signs, but he stepped away from them; so Satan followed him up, and he became one of those who go astray.And if We had pleased, We could have exalted him thereby; but he inclined to the earth and followed his evil inclination…
[24:36] This light is now lit in houses with regard to which Allah has ordained that they be exalted and that His name be remembered in them. Therein is He glorified in the mornings and the evenings
[58:12] O ye who believe! when it is said to you, ‘Make room!’ in your assemblies, then do make room; Allah will make ample room for you. And when it is said, ‘Rise up!’ then rise up; Allah will** raise those who believe** from among you, and those to whom knowledge is given,** to degrees of rank**. And Allah is Well-Aware of what you do.
then there are ahadith and duaa’s in which the word rafa’a is used and is only meant raise by rank and status, and not by bodily. Please do check the verses im providing you and let me know what it is that you dont understand.
It is unfair to translate one word in 1 verse according to how you like it and dont think about other verses in Quran. Quran does not have any contradiction. Its a God’s words. Everything in it makes perfect sense, with no contradiction of verses amongst each other.
I do not believe this. Simply because im a firm believer of Islam and a firm believer of Quran. I believe in every single word of this final message of Allah almighty. No where is it written that an old prophet can come and the new cannot. Provide me one verse where your this belief hold truth, that it is OK for a previous prophet to come, but not ok if a prophet is born to muslim ummah. Your own belief is that when Jesus(as) will come, he will be a follower of Muhammad PBUH, and will make every decision based on Quran and ahadith and not from Gospels. I said it before that as far as the belief itself is concerned, i have no problem. We both are on the same page,but where we differ, is that Jesus(as), a prophet sent to bani israel is no longer alive and the prophet foretold to come after Muhammad PBUH will be from Muslim Ummah and not a prophet which was sent to bani israel. Thats all. You prove me from Quran and ahadith that Jesus(as) is still alive bodily in heavens and I will join you. But if you cant and will never be able to , then it is your duty to see and try to understand what message it is that Im trying to convey here. It is farz on you to find the truth as a muslim.
I have provided verses earlier in some other thread too, that a previous prophet cannot be a follower of the next prophet of him. Please see the verses below :
3:65 O People of the Book! why do you dispute concerning Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Will you not then understand?
And, verily, of his party was Abraham; (37:84) << referring to Noah(as).
[61:7] And remember when Jesus, son of Mary, said, ‘O children of Israel, surely I am Allah’s Messenger unto you, fulfilling that which is before me of the Torah, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger who will come after me. His name will be Ahmad.’ And when he came to them with clear proofs, they said, ‘This is clear enchantment.’
Then there is a hadith regarding Musa(as)… ( i cant seem to find it , but i will if you like ), that Musa wanted to be a prophet in Islam, Allah refused. He (as) then said, let me just be an ordinary person in Muhammadi shariyah. Allah said , it cannot happen, as you are before him and he (saw) is after you.
All this suggest that a prophet can be grouped with a prophet PRIOR to him, not AFTER him. Jesus(as) gave glad tiding about Muhammad PBUH who will come AFTER him. He did not say, after him, I will come back again.
Regarding Abraham, Allah made it clear that he was neither jewish , nor christian, as both of these ummah became AFTER his demise.
There is no possible way you can find me any verse from Quran or hadith proving me wrong. IF new prophet cant come, then neither can old !!!. Same thing applies to Jesus(as). He was BEFORE. Muhammadi shariya is AFTER him.
PS: if you have more questions which you are hesitant to ask because of gs policies, then i welcome you or anyone to PM me and we will talk about anything and everything anyone is interested in.
I will reply to psyah in sometime too.
Assalam o alaikum warahmatullah.