Hazrat Isa A.S.

[chacha_Ghalib]

Re: Hazrat Isa A.S.

@psyah

Peace chacha_Ghalib

I’ve noticed the highlighted is an oft-repeated phrase … so I wanna see how vital that criteria really is …

Single or unique events that have taken place without proof

I can think of one already … The Creation of Adam (AS) … That had never happened before and since we are all reproducing by sex can we hence call that a fairytale as well?

Surely for Muslims Qur’an and Hadith is proof enough … and when Qur’an refers to previous scriptures then to a certain degree they are also proof for us.

There is also a wisdom in this loose terminology (such as tawaffee) … I see it is because it can be used for both times on Ascension and after actual death of Isa (AS) and it serves to be the reason how the fitnah of the imposters who have been foretold about can manifest … the ones who want to sow discord exploit the terms that can have multiple meanings - thus creating their basis for splintering away from the main body.

@lethal_kamikaze

Peace chacha_Ghalib,

You find these discussion are amusing I hope you are not trying to neglect the hadith (sayings of Prophet Muhammad ) and immaculate message of Almighty Allah SWT (by Qur’an) as proof, regarding Prophet Isa a.s. Free you mind from this mortal world and try to understand the message and if you can’t than please leave the space for others by believing the discussion about Hazrat Isa a.s. as fable or fairytale which ever please you to your way or your highway.

LOL. The fairytale I was talking about is the ascension of Jesus and him being alive. No proofs but we have to believe it because you guys say so. I find that you guys are inteluctually dishonest since you keep making exceptions for Jesus just to make him fit into you narrative.

The bottom line is that these discussion have zero result. I will not be able to convince you and vice versa. So what’s the point? The only thing I ask of you guys is that learn to live and let live. You guys can’t reach for our throats, thanks to the internet, or this discussion would have been long over. Let me make a list so it’s easier to get my points across.

1. We won’t be able to convince each other so what’s the point of discussing this stuff?
2. We don’t care if you consider us non-muslims as long as you don’t force us to consider ourselves non-muslims.
3. Please convince your fellow ummah brothers to start acting on the usva of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) instead of Abu-Jahal.
4. Let us convince people that we are on the right path without fearing for our lives and you can do all the preaching to us to bring us to your ‘real’ Islam.
5. La-ikra-ha fi-d-deen. and la-kum deeno-kum wa-li-ya-deen

Thank you very much.

p.s. nice swipe there psyah. can’t hold it for too long can we? LOL