SALAM
There are so many talkes about hazrat eisa a.s that he is in the sky and will come but what is truth
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if u ask muslims, they will tell u what u wrote above....
if u ask ahmedis, they will tell u that he died (cuz they say things that dont fit right if Isa (as) is still living and to come back)....
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He can be born without a father, he can speak in his cradle, he can cure the blind and the lepers, he can raise the dead but he can’t be raised alive to Allah :swt:…That’s impossible…
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why can't be..........
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^^ because it is not from Allah's law of nature. How many other prophets has He sent to the sky ?
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Isn’t being born without a father against Allah’s law of nature?? Isn’t raising the dead against Allah’s law of nature??
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^ nahin yaar, those things dont do any harm to ahmedi beliefs so thats acceptable....
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well he is burried in Sri Nagar according to ahmadie beliefs. I have also been told that he didnt literally bring the dead back to life what this meant was that he would bring them back spiritually because only Allah is capable of such things and why would he give that much power to a prophet? Not that I agree with this but it is just a different point of view.
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To Diva4u
That means You are denying to the attributes of Allah.........In Al Qur'an in many places it says:"Allah has Power over all things."
You are denying that fact by saying that "it is Against the Nature of Allah'law".
Who are you to deicide That it is Against Allah'Law........
He(Allah) is the one who creates and He is the one who destroys whenever He wants to:
You are also denying the other incidents which are in the Qur'an when Allah saved His Prophets.
1.......You think Hazrat Ibrahim(as) used a "ceramic gel" In the fire.
2.........Prophet Muhammad(saw) used nuclear technology when splitting the moon
and so on
And you are also denying the Quranic verse which says"Christ was not killed nor crucified."
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Following the same logic, if Allah can make man from dirt, woman from his rib, the universe in a few days then why can’t he send more prophets?
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What would be the reason behind him sending more? What purpose would they achieve if Islam is already complete? What possibly could they bring?
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The same purpose that Imam Mahdi and Hazrat Isa (as) are to achieve.
But that’s not the point. The point is that you can’t believe on one end that as Allah is Qadar on everything, so he can take take Hazrat Isa (as) alive and store him for later, yet on the other hand believe that he can’t send any more prophets.
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^ Allah says that He wont send any more messengers, as He says that He has taken up Isa (as) alive to the sky....
its not about we saying what He can and cannot do (not that there is such a thing) but what He has decided and already done....
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Armaghul, Allah says that he can send more prophets and Isa (as) has died like all others before him.
Obviously the difference is in understanding the verses of the Holy Quran, which isn’t that big of a difference as people make it out to be.
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The best reason is in front of your eyes. The state of muslims in general. How united is the muslim ummah ?
Islam is one of the best things for mankind, if man would only learn to accept and believe. There is more chaos now in the muslim world than ever before and you say Islam is complete ? Yes, the laws of Islam are complete and the message sent is complete but muslims are NOT a whole as they should be under the banner of Islam.
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Here are two threads that could be of assistance. There are many more that could be located using the search option.
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=106485
AND
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=191220
Please go through the two threads and feel free to post the views that haven’t yet been discussed.
Given that this has been discussed in the past, I may close it later on the day when I have more time on hands.
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Do you believe Hz. Isa (as) was born without the agency of a father?
If yes, there you go, Allah (swt) broke His own law.
Hz. Adam (as) and his wife Huwa (ra) (Eve) did the same in reverse order, from the ‘skies’ to the Earth.
Ever heard of Prophet (saw)'s miraj to the heavens? Just lay a claim that it was spiritual].
Thank God, Ghulam Ahmad did not lay claim to this too.
When Allah (swt) decides upon something all He has to say is; **“Be” **and it is. That simple.
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For any guidance on this, I would prefer Affan bhai to read Surah Mariyam.
That's the best way instead of making comments unknowingly that can be false...
Umer
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Diva Islam is complete in the sense that their is nothing one can add to it to perfect it anymore then it already is. Jesus will come, according to most muslims belief, but the last I heard he was not going to bring anything new to Islam. Disunity amongst muslims I dont think has anything to do with Islam being complete or incomplete. Disunity was created by us not because Islam is an incomplete religion.
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To Diva
"Allah has Power over all things."
"Christ was not killed nor crucified."
You are rejecting the ayahs big times.....
"But those who disbelieve and deny our verses(signs) such are the Companions of the Fire,they shall abide therein forever."(Al-Baqara :39)