Re: Hazara should be a separate province
Interesting enough I would say, of course it would open a can of worms with both punjabis and pashtuns… Well my opinion is as long as Pakistan exists we can go with the status quo. But should it ever break up (and that always seems to be the long term path) we will have to make some major changes to consolidate our areas.
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Could you guys stop using words like Punjabis/sindhis/balochis/pushtoons/muhajirs/and other silly words and start using words like Pakistanis living in Paunjab or Sindh or Balochistan etc?
Why can't you be Pakistanis FIRST my dearest Pakistanis?
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Inshaa Allaah my brother one day there will be no reason to call each other Punjabi or Pashtun or Mohajir.. We’ll still be all the different colors of the rainbow but we’ll be just Pakistani all the way from the “Northern Autonomous Protectorate” (present-day Kashmir/Northern-Areas) to “South East National Province” (present-day Sindh).. It be a negroid Shidi or a Caucasian Kalaash all will be just Paki Muslim and proud.
Whether it’ll be Karachi or Peshawar we’ll have the same Pan-Pakistani culture across the nation, it will be enriched and influenced by our presentday cultures of course… The way this is going to be brought about is intermarriages and migrations from one place of the country to the other…
…That would be ideal for me because I’ve relatives all over the country and I’ve the same fond memories of Sialkot (Punjab), Thar-Desert (Sindh) and Peshawar (NWFP), all these places, landscapes, the people are all part of “backhome” to me, the Sajji, the Chappli-Kebab, the Haleem (i’m hungry) I love 'em all I do, the Hujras in Attock or swimming with water buffaloes in Punjab.. memories of them all make me equally nostalgic, they do.. sighhhhh..
Indians (even Southies) are uniting on their Sanskiritic identity, urban Afghan ethnic groups are uniting with their Persianised culture.. We Pakis need to unite too..
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Re: Hazara should be a separate province
Ma Leedali Da Ferang Khkule Jazoona
Ma Leedali Mahaloona Da London
Jeenakay Masthay Azaade Gulbadan
Ma Leedalay Da Italy Khkulay Kharoona
Sra Ye Angoor, Sra Ye Sharab, Aw Sra Ye Guloona
Ma Ledale Da Paris Khaparay Khkulay
Pa Kiradar, Gufthar Khwagay Laka Bulbulay
Ma Leeday Taj-Mahal Ghotay Da Golo
Da Delhi Khkule Kharoona Da Mugholo
Ma Leedalay America Ke Dee Kharoona
Che Aoryazo Tha Ye Rasee Makanoona
**Kho Che Aoweenam Da Khpal Da Khato Kor
Rana Her Shee Mahaloona Khaistha Nor
Dah Narai Tangey Koosay Zama Da Kali
Wartha Sa Dee Da Dunya Kharoona Khkulay
Che Kharh Makhay Wror Pakhtoon Seenay La Dar Shee
Darna Her Ba Tol Khais Da Bahrobar Shee
Khudaya Shukar Che Paida De Da De Qaaam Krham
Da Pakhtoon Da Nar Wajood De Yaw Andaam Khram
Sa Ba Khram Da London Loway Mahaloona
Da Paris Junay Khaistha Rome Guloona**
I’ve seen the airplanes of the British underneath which you see the thunders of the ocean.
I’ve seen the palaces of London with beautiful, free, romantic girls.
I’ve seen the beautiful cities of Italy with red grapes, red wines and red roses.
I’ve seen the beautiful girls of Paris with sweet voices and style like that of a butterfly.
I’ve seen the roses of the Taj-Mahal, beautiful Mogul cities of Delhi.
I’ve seen cities in America, the buildings touching the clouds.
**But once I see my own house made of mud I forget about all the palaces of the world.
These narrow streets of my village are dearer to me than all the beautiful cities of the world.
Once you embrace an uneducated and simple Pashtun brother you will forget about all the beauties of the universe.
Thank you God that I am born in this nation, I am a part of the body of an upright Pashtun.
The big palaces of London are of no use to me whatsoever, and the beautiful girls of Paris and the flowers of Rome…**
Re: Hazara should be a separate province
Ranjhan da da Ghani Khan Nazam de zalima da batkhele na ragheshte de, dade tharjuma kho jorhe ma karhe da nekbakhtha
First of all I will request this Spock to go it is the time of his feeder, he is too small to participate, not aware of the basic things.
Coming to the topic. Almost all Hindko speakers in Pakhtoonkhwa are very proud Pakhtoons, they have a strong history, relations and association with Pakhtoons and I have found many Hindkowan, who are more proud to be Pakhtoon than other Pakhto speaking Pakhtoons. However, if still they dont want to live with us, it is their choice which should be respected.
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Yeah right, it wasnt too long ago one of your goons (the self proclaimed pakhtun champ) was saying all sorts of stuff about hindkus, do you want me to dig all that? P.S. Ranjha, its about time you admitted you were like warrior, logo etc and thank you for that poem, whatever that was
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Please go ahead, I dont know any one of them, I remember the posts of Logo. But it is not a big deal you can ask from moderator / administrator, he will tell you. BTW, I cannot be a lier
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I didnt say you WERE logo, I said you were like him
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My sword I girt upon my thigh
To guard our nation's ancient fame;
Its champion in this age am I,
The Khattak Khan Khushal my name!
I wonder why shoud I give up my real-natural Pashtun identity and have a new artificial one! Would this make me a super-human? Is Pakistan going to achieve something divine? What is it that I can't achieve as a Pashtun? If I have to give up my individuality, why not become a part of Iran/Afghanistan or Central Asia than to be lost in Hindustan?
Above all if it is to be South Asia, why not become a part of India?
Nevetheless, there are very little chances that Pakistan w...ill ever become a nation in the sense of culture. There are a lot of things that pre-empt this.
However, there is another chance that different nationalities in this region have a confederal like arrangement. Let us call this United Central-South Asian Republics (UCSR). In this, we would have Pashtunistan, Baluchistan, Sindhistan (including Muhajir autonomous region of Karachi-Hayderabad), Siraikistan, Dardistan (inncluding Hazara, Hindku-speaking built, and Northern Areas), Kashmir, and probably Tajakistan. Persian and Urdu would be the lingua-franca of UCSR with complete autonomy to regional languages like Baluchi, Sindhi, Hindku, Pashto, Kashmiri, etc. in their respective domains.
Punjab (region beyond Jehalm) would be kept out of this union and asked to join their ethnic kin accross Wahga. Area upto Jehlam w...ill become part of Dardistan.
Re: Hazara should be a separate province
You cant because Afghna becaue they dont want you... Afghanistan isnt your country, so why impse yourself on your neighbors?
Re: Hazara should be a separate province
Mr. Super Patriot, ideally provinces should have control over their resources with center lift with only three subjects i.e. defense, foreign affairs, and currency. However, if this isn't going to happen, then to hell with Punjabis and to hell with Tajiks, Uzbaks, etc.
Merge Pashtun areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan in one Pashtun state.
This would probably ultimately occur. Punjabis should rejoin their bearded brothers from accross Wahga. This is would be a natural thing to occur.
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Your such a hypocrit dinosaur..Afghanistan belongs to Afghans, not some bitter twit like you.. Uzbeks and Tajiks have been fighting Pashtun domination for as far bacck as anyone can remember, and they will continue to do so... Why dont you exhibit some fear of God and stop trying to impose yourself on a country that doesnt want you...
Do you really want to plunge those people into another civil war..
YOU are not Afghan... They HATE you!!! Even your fellow Afghan Pashthuns hate you.. So wake up!
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You will continue to be our slaves 
(afterall its youwho say pakistanis or punjabiz are ur masters) Well, im just adding salt to your wounds…
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I think he perfer to be the Master too Uzbeks and Tajiks over being a "slave" to Punjabis.. To bad the Uzbeks and Tajiks arent the kind to simply bend over and take it:)
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Put it somewhere else, you will get better healing
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Afroot Khan, we are not the ones crying...