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Do you find it logical / illogical? If so than which religion and why?
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Peace LKK
I tried to go through the basics of Sikhism. The point is when a person from a different religion study a different religion, he is unable to consider it logical or unlogical because of his per-concieved idea of religion.
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What about similarities between pre-concieved idea of its religion and the new one? Does in such way the studies of different religions will help to understand? I mean to make logical or unlogical?.
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What about similarities between pre-concieved idea of its religion and the new one? Does in such way the studies of different religions will help to understand? I mean to make logical or unlogical?.
I tried reading into Catholicism albeit through their arts and ideas but I just couldn't get past the belief that every child is born in sin because of the original sin. That confused the hell out of me.
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The Islam tells that every child is born is without sin and as Muslim but their parents turns him into their belief other than Islam.
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I tried reading into Catholicism albeit through their arts and ideas but I just couldn't get past the belief that every child is born in sin because of the original sin. That confused the hell out of me.
Peace rari389,
The original sin referred to the 'sin of Adam a.s.', which imputed to all of us. That he sinned as our representative wherewith even infants in their mother's womb are infected, and which produces in man all sorts of sin. This 'original sin' known as inherited sin which is refuted as it is falsely presented.
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Peace rari389,
The original sin referred to the 'sin of Adam a.s.', which imputed to all of us. That he sinned as our representative wherewith even infants in their mother's womb are infected, and which produces in man all sorts of sin. This 'original sin' known as inherited sin which is refuted as it is falsely presented.
Thank you Lethal kamiKaze.
Yes, that is precisely what I find illogical as they say even in their religion that God loves unconditionally yet believe that he holds every child responsible for Adam (A.S) actions isn't that a bit contradictory?
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Yes I want to know all the religions as every religoin
teaches you good things for example dont heart others
do not fight help others etc
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Thank you Lethal kamiKaze. Yes, that is precisely what I find illogical as they say even in their religion that God loves unconditionally yet believe that he holds every child responsible for Adam (A.S) actions isn't that a bit contradictory?
Peace rari389,
Not a bit contradictory but as whole. John Calvin knows as inventor of Calvinism, was a theologian and pastor during the Protestant (Luther was the founder) Reformation. In his Calvinism he said all 5 points known by the acronym: T.U.L.I.P. must either be accepted in total or entirely rejected. His 5 points contradict the Bible.
The Adam sinned when he disobeyed Almighty Allah by eating from the forbidden tree (the tree of knowing good from evil as in Genesis 2:17)It is therefore fitting to ask: How will Adam be punished for his deed if he did not know right from wrong?. As a result, and according to Christian theology, all descendants of Adam inherit the sin of Adam, which means that all human beings are born with this original sin and according to Christianity, for God's justice to be satisfied, a price must be paid for every sin that has been committed.
In other words, God will not let any sin go unrequited and cannot even forgive a simple sin. Accordingly, the only thing that can wipe out sins is the shedding of blood. According to Paul, "Without the shedding of blood there is no remission." (Hebrews 9:22) But this blood must be perfect, sinless, and incorruptible. Therefore, Jesus, alleged to be the son of God, shed his sinless blood, suffered indescribable agony and died to pay the penalty for the sins of men. Because he was infinite God, he alone could pay the infinite price of sin. Therefore, no one can be saved unless he accepts Jesus as his personal savior (Isaiah 43:11 reads "I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour." This verse clearly states that God is the only savior). Moreover, everyone is condemned to suffer eternally in Hellfire because of his or her inherent sinful nature he or she accepts atonement for his or her sins made by Jesus with his blood.
The Reverend De Groot (Catholic Teaching p.140) writes: "Scripture teaches us that Adam's sin passed unto all men (our Blessed lady exempted). For in the words of St. Paul: "Therefore, as by the offence of one (Adam) all men were taken to condemnation; so also by the Justice of one (Christ) many shall be made just." (Romans 5:18-19). These words make it plain that all men inherited Adam's sin like many other Christian beliefs, the doctrine of the 'Total hereditary deparvity (or Inherited Sin)' by Calvinism, finds no support in the words of Jesus or of the prophet who came before him. They taught that every man was accountable for his own actions; children would not be punished for the sin of their parents. No human being is born sinful. Jesus himself regarded children as innocent and pure, not born with sin. It is clear from his reported saying: "Suffer not the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for such is the Kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the Kingdom of God as little child, he shall not enter therin." (Mark 10:14-15).
Believing in the dogma of the inherited sin that all infants are doomed to burn eternally in the Fire of Hell (unbaptized). Until recently the unbaptized infants were not buried in consecrated grounds in Christendom, because they were believe to have died in 'origin sin'.
Islam condemns the dogma of Original Sin and regards children as pure and sinless at birth. Sin, it says, is not inherited, but is something that one acquires by doing what he or she should not do and by failing to do what he or she should do.
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I thought i was a complete secular and believed in to respecting everyone's faith. that was untill i came across Scientology. i think sometimes its okay to despise some religion :D
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ive always thought its very much possible to gain a pretty good idea of another religion just by studying it over a prolonged period of time
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I'd wanted too, still do but have decide to first and foremost have a strong grip on my own religion; Islam, and only then venture out to gain knowledge about other religions :).
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I thought i was a complete secular and believed in to respecting everyone's faith. that was untill i came across Scientology. i think sometimes its okay to despise some religion :D
the only problem with scientology is it is new. if the same had happened 500 years ago, we'd see people with psyah's mindset posting here with it telling everyone how Xenu is real.
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Most recently i have started much more about Islam and listening to islamic lectures. What intrigued me about Quran is how logically it provides the story of Mary compare to Christian theological argument. After Islam, i will look into Judaism.
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Peace pakiQueen,
Do share with us too.
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I watched Oprah's Next Chapter, 2 parts series where she interviewed Hasidic (Orthodox jews) community in Brooklyn. It was an eye opener and to learn some of their customs and religious believes that are similar to islam, however there were lot of things that were just over the top and i was like serioulsy huh?? You can youtube it, it is definitely worth a watch.
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Read hinduism in reverse order from Mahabharat to Rigvedic interpretation. It started from Polytheism, reached monotheism and ended in atheistic literature. This was when I attempted to read in continuous efforts, for reading entire theology of Hinduism, one lifetime is not sufficient I think:D
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I have not read it but I will take this as an opportunity to ask my Hindu fellows here a question. I have heard that there is a religious mantra that is read to the one who is dying for him or her to die peacfully. Can someone please share a correct translation of that mantra here for my own knowledge?
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the only problem with scientology is it is new. if the same had happened 500 years ago, we'd see people with psyah's mindset posting here with it telling everyone how Xenu is real.
So true! Scientology and Mormonism seem hilarious now but they arent that strange when you compare them to some of the jokes we have in every other established religion.
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I have not read it but I will take this as an opportunity to ask my Hindu fellows here a question. I have heard that there is a religious mantra that is read to the one who is dying for him or her to die peacfully. Can someone please share a correct translation of that mantra here for my own knowledge?
there is no such mantra. in hinduism, you accumulated your karma during your lifetime. no special chant is going to do jack on your deathbed.