Hatred for all things 'Black'

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AnilKhan
Anil thank you for being honest in your deleted post...dont go back now...your views are bigotry but i quite common...

Anywho i guess in the same token anyone that has a beard, wears a hijab or salwar kameeze, has an asianish sounding accent, has a Muslim name is going to bomb the country aswell...Good on the West for getting rid of these people...if someone said that you would all be up in arms insulting stereotypes...lol you Pakis are funny...moan about racist abuse yet being extremely racist yourselves...

So is it fair to conclude then from what Anil says taht Pakis hate Pakis that wear 'black' clothes cos black people are uncivilised pests who are a societal nuisance...

Lol i hope you all get grief next time your at an airport...

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eeeuuu, i am not your buddy!!!

actually i shouldnt say that - thats mean! i am sure u are a very nice person, who has probably had some bad experiences. i just think if u open your mind - you will realize all human beings are alike. honestly you aremissing out on getting to know people as they really are b/c of your stereotypes!

and you are welcome for the lecture!

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Nbn, ur not pakistani?

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wow! naughty by nature! i was enjoyig reading your responses! and thought of you as a brother in kind! i was severely disappointed! that you succumbed to this - how different are you now man!?! you are equally racist! maybe the reason anil has his perception of black ppl is b/c he came across racist black ppl who treated him like **** b/c he is paki, and now u hate pakis b/c of anil! did u not note that me!!! a paki!!! doesnt think that!!! u hate me!!!! for no reason! i did nothing to you! all i am saying guy..is that the need for hate.... its just posion..its goes around making you hate, and now b/c of what u said someone else might hate all black ppl, and then b/c of them someone else will hate! why not spread open-mindedness and peace!!

see now even though u said "you hope I get grief when i go to an airport, and said its good that the west is getting rid of us! and even though all this is hurtful and personal to me!" i am not going to respond with hating you or all black ppl, just like i will not hate anil! maybe you are both victims of this society and maybe in responding to you both with kindness, maybe i can change the way u think.

in any event brothers.. i am reaching out to you and i hope you will respond in kind. Naughty by nature, - how are you any different then anil? - except you are a different creed, if you hate and are equally racist then you are no different.

Dont be a victim of hate and become a hater! stay with us - in this fight - o n the side of ppl who believe in peace! and making the world better by getting to know each other w/out any bigotry! i hope we can convert, and if u note..there are more ppl appauled by anil then not!

and the fact that he retracted what he said! says alot! I am truly sorry that i quoted him. maybe he just had a moment of hate, like you did here - naughty by nature! b/c of something he went thru! and maybe after that moment, he retracted what he said!
anyway i am truly sorry i quoted you anil.... its created all this unecessary negative energy! i hope we can make peace!

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Afridi
Yeh my mums 1/2 Kashmiri...other bits are Iranian and Ugandan...

Farwah Raza
Firstly bro...i am part Pakistani and im Muslim too...i suggest you read my post again...I genuinely feel you missed the whole point of it...

It was sarcasm...In the second paragraph i presented a common stereotype...everyone would lambast that stereotype yet these same people would bring out their own stereotypes about 'black people...im showing how ridiculous it is to criticise people for thinking Muslims are uncivilised when you yourselves carry stereotypes...I hope that makes sense...

And as for the airport thing...i hope any bigot Paki does find themselves in trouble next time they're at the airport...i can guarantee that same fool will whine about...'They did it cos of my scarf'...'Cos of my name'...blah blah...If your gonna be a bigot then expect it to come back to you...

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i am sorry i quoted it before you could delete it!!!

i certainly accept your apology and i think you truly mean it!!!

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and iman21 - u make it seem like all pakis are racist against black ppl! if this thread is any indication of what pakis generally thnk - i think it shows that what anilkhan said is not the common view, i am insulted that you would insinuate that most pakis are racist against blacks! haters are haters, we have some in every race. i was in the city this black israelite was preaching something jews, so i asked him what it was about - he said what are you paki..and i said yes, surprised he would know..and then he said...yea you wil be our slaves..and went on to insult us in many ways..... and i left! and still have no idea about what the black israelites are about. all i am saying is....i def. should not have quoted anil... i didnt know he was going to delete! don't generalize about pakis, you would not generalize about all white ppl, or all black ppl just b/c u heard thier uncle and other other person say something racist!

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Generalising again. Not everyone hates black, u need to meet more pakis.

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are u saying you dont hate all pakis?!
b/c then welcome back - you have raised yourself out of the gutters where bigots live! :D

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NbN i am not bro!!! okay … well i still think ppl are racist b/c they have bad experiences, so i hope they have better ones and maybe they will less racist, but also believ what goes around comes around - hurting ppl - no no its just bad karma - it will ocme back even if not at the airport!

but i dont think anil meant to hurt b/c he deleted it but clearly not fast enough :clown:

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Just like to make clear that im not expressing a dislike to any race of people...im expressing dislike to bigots and in this case its Paki Muslim bigots who moan every time someone make a judgement about Muslims...

Its just i hope that these same people will understand when they are stopped at an airport, when they dont get a job, when they get their house raided, when their child gets beaten up at school, when their sister gets beaten cos of her hijab or when they get arrested...that it is fair enough...i mean Muslims bomb places dont they lol...they are a danger to our society...so should be trated as such...stereotypes are fine arent they as long as they dont affect you...

P.S...For those who dont pick these things up...the previous paragraph was sarcasm...

But this isnt sarcasm...if you are a bigot i hope you are a victim of the things i stated in that paragrpah one day...

Najim
To correct you quickly...i didnt state this was everyones view...it is aimed at people who do carry the view itself...

FarwahReza...
I was referring to the fact that you missed the point of my last post which i still think you have...anyway dont worry...

Please stop justifying Anil...its annoying...he deleted it not becuase it didnt represent his views but he just didnt want anyone to read it...

Its like that cricket commentator that called Amla a terrorist...meaning it not to be heard isnt an answer...you expressed your view so you will be judged by it...

And the guys a bigot so i dont see why your defending him...sorry for the bro thing btw...

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Yaro to be honest, what I said was all tongue and cheek. Believe me, I’ve heard my share of ethnic humour too (I’m pashtun by birth) but never to my face. Still I know its out there.

See it makes sense to call me a racist if I said I hate blacks! The truth is, I don’t; NOT ONE BIT. Infact, some of my closest friends in high school were black.

Aneel Khan’s motto: BROWNS RULE; BLACKS RULE; WHITES RULE; ORIENTALS RULE; WE ALL RULE. :k:

btw: someone said I hate those Pakistani’s that dress black. Absolutely NOT TRUE. If you’re from Pak zameen; I will go out of my way to be nice to you.

Again, I’m sorry for my earlier post. Sometimes I forget its hard, on GS, to tell what is a light humour and what is serious. Obviously, y’all didn’t get the tongue and cheek nature of that post.

(I’m not aplogizing again :Big grin: )

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thanks for sharing ur nice ideas and thoughts, Farwah.
i will extend the argument.

Farwah is so right logically and pragmatically.

it is human nature to be picky on others, without having made any contact with them as a person. we are shallow at times, and that we should avoid. because one wrong word, one wrong action or expressed thought, can mellow good hearts and create resentment.

maybe, the person in the subway did not get sleep for a long night shift of work, so he slept in the moving train, thinking to himself, it is safe among humans to sleep for a bit.

we cannot stereotype. i am learning it too. yes, we should call a spade a spade, and have our privacy, but we cannot all be judgmental all the time.

Pakistani culture is not about being NOSY in other people's matters, but somehow we can evolved the practice of this poking attitude - we provoked just to see how much others get upset. this mentality has to be put aside and eradicated.

if we are living in an adapted country, we should not only welcome a bit of reasonable accommodation in living and working among people of all back grounds here, but we can most certainly teach people through our interactions that we, are nice people.

some people argue that identity does not matter, that the only criteria for interpersonal interaction should be the rightness of our decisions and the fact that we are dealing with each other as "humans" - so humanity will matter, not religious back ground and or national affiliation.

fine. that argument is not unacceptable or invalid. But, what i will propose is that the identity of a person, a group of people only gets recognized in a positive way - when people from that group are nice, friendly, trusting and trust worthy people.

unless, we get out of our cacoons and make non muslims, non- Pakistanis our friends, just like we have friend ships with our dosts and shailees, we may never be able to help dispel their misconceptions of who Paksitanis and Muslims really are - nice people. we will still be nice as humans, but it will be an additional plus, that the muslim and pakistani identities are associated with us, and we with them - in a good way.

  that said, not all blacks or whites are bad people, just like not all arabs and muslims are.

we will need to walk the walk and talk the talk. & for the sake of our own purity of conscience, we will have to do it with the same - honest intention, well-meaning resolve to do just this.

& if still, something seems unreasonably demanding or objectionable on the grounds of someone becoming too reliant on us, we can deal with that too.

i would have asked the gentle man, by waking him up, kindly, that sir please hold ur head, i did not mean to wake u up, but i wanted to say this, lest u missed ur stop :>

there are always nice ways to deal with even strangers.

hope i made sense.

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just u men, dont be racists and ignorant .

all will be fine.

na deen na iman, crap!

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I'm not sure where or how you inferred from my post that I think all Pakistanis are racist. To quote myself, I said
"I mean, in this point in our world, when many people of all races are being racist against/afraid of Pakistanis, people like this uncle and AnilKhan are making completely racist statements like this- it's just disgraceful and ignorant, and I pray that our generation makes strides towards ending this racism in our communities towards Africans/African-Americans (insha'Allah)"

I'm not sure how the phrase "people like this uncle/AnilKhan" = all pakis, as you incorrectly inferred. I agree that we should not generalize - and I did not generalize. However, I really don't think you got the point of my post, which was that the fact that there are Pakistani people that are racist and make these comments against African-Americans, yet it isn't really considered racism in our communities, but just wayward comments. My post definitely wasn't about insinuations; rather it is about all of us (which is the only point in my post where I talk about "all Pakistanis") examining our Pakistani communities and recognizing the racist views that do exist and doing our part to try to eradicate them. It does us no good to be in denial of the negative things in our community. Obviously, everyone knows there are racists in every culture/society - however, we were discussing racism in Pakistani society in this thread, hence the focus of the aforementioned post was racism against African-Americans in Pakistani society.

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Actually I agree wit what Anil said , in regards to “blacks” vs “niggers.” Guys like 50 cent are NOT role models :no:
Just because you hate the hip hop lifestyle, thuggishness etc doenst make you a racist. Clothing-jewelry-hair/grooming, those are personal preference, just because I don’t like the “thug” look doenst mean i hate black people. Blacks do have their culture, thier lifestyle, and I’m pretty sure being a thug is NOT part of their culture. Even black people hate that they’re being repreesented by “thugs” and hip hop artists..Not all blacks are niggers and not all niggers are black :stuck_out_tongue:
As a side note..has anyone seen “Flavor of Love” ??? :smack: The women on that show are just disgusting..

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My mom still crosses the road if she see's a black guy walking toward her...

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You have to look at each person and not sterotype them based on their colour.

Naughty you complain about some using the term nigger....which they shouldn't .......but you are no better by using terms like Paki which are also racist.

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George Bush does not care about black People!

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I don't think Paki is a derogatory term outside of UK ..