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It doesn't matter, all you Pakis out there in the West will have to face it. It's a sad reality. Goras will hate you inside no matter how strict the rules that they have to abide by are, regardless of all the anti-racism bullsh*t they talk about. The only other option you have is completely lose your identity and become another one of those "who am I?" people (i.e. goras, although you will still be brown physically). As a Muslim and as a Paki, you don't belong in the West. The West is like a book with a shiny cover that is crawling with maggots inside once you open it. Sorry to ruin it for people like legbreakgoogly (my quintessential "ABCD"), but that's the truth in my opinion.
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^ no you do NOT have to go through this! no1 has to go through it, if only they stood up for themselves......what do these people think? bully someone and not get answers back? if you answer back to them i'm sure they wouldn't even come back......aik acha sa jawab day do tho munh band ho jatay hain
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I honestly don’t think any of the parties give two hoots about Muslims (British or foreign), we Pakis have done our job here, Mirpuris provided cheap efficent labour to British factories after WWII and got this country’s economy back on it’s feet, now that they’ve used and abused us they don’t need us anymore.. None of them are pro-Muslim. If any of them oppose the war it’s love for their tax money and marines not the lives of baby Afghans and Iraqis… This political correctness is all a false facade.
People like you can carry on being dilluded in taking comfort in their hollow pro-modMuslim remarks.. I’m tired of this country and living an pologetic life, can’t wait to go to Pak for good..
Muslims are not like other citizens anymore, somebody can just have a grudge against me because I’m better endowed than them and they can take it out by making an anonymous phone call saying I’m a terrorist and they’ll send me to Gitmo without any evidence like with a lot of other Muslims.. I can get stopped and searched at unKosher places where I’d rather my family/community didn’t know I went and the police can record it just because I’m young Asian and look Muslim, invasion of our privacy.. Tis not nice.
Jade Goody is a good example of a typical middle-class white Brit, some are afraid to show it but most of them feel the same.
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exactly! coz they saw how many people were pissed off at her for saying something much more less than what was said to this girl! do you think if the whole world watched what happened to her they would all be like BNP?? NO! they would argue back…so dnt be changing everyone into BNP’s…God i hate them so much
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i was wondering how long it would take for you to edit your post
talk abt giving up eh…yeah atleats people like me can carry on walking down the street even wearing a hijab and get respect, do you not realise WHY these people have reacted in sucha barbaric manner? maybe it’s because of what us muslims have caused ourselves into doing they just basically pick up frm where we left off don’t you think? we start the arguments within religion ABOUT our religion and they just carry on. yeah well ok, you do that you go back to pak…as if pakistanis lives are any better now with all the going on
damn! not all people are like that, not everyone wants to go round being racist…didn’t you see how many people went up to protest abt iraq once upon a time?
open ur eyes and see all the different cultured people whom live here…and then come back to me and say so and so are racist
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^ no you do NOT have to go through this! no1 has to go through it, if only they stood up for themselves......what do these people think? bully someone and not get answers back? if you answer back to them i'm sure they wouldn't even come back......aik acha sa jawab day do tho munh band ho jatay hain
IF only.......just IF only
Alas how much? You can't keep answering everytime, more often you have other more important things at hand. And even if you do answer back, you'll stick out like a sore thumb. No one would like to make friends with you, even the Pakis, because of fear of getting more bullied (I know Paki mentality very well). Although I do agree the fact that some fanatics are responsible to an extent for tainting the image of Muslims in the West, that is a very tiny minority. If such is the case, then we should execute all Germans.
On the other hand, imagine - just IMAGINE - if a gora Brit kid comes to study in a Paki school. How do you think would the students (not "outsiders") at the school treat him? And in contrast (yes I know it's contrasting), how do goras treat us when we go to their schools?
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i respect you very much...so i will talk in a reasonable manner with you....otherwise ....this topic is limit-crossing for me.... !!!!!
We pakistanis live much better than you...atleast we have self respect..dignity...nobody ruins our self-respect...and ego...which is person's most precious thing.....Yes...some person..have other preferences...like you...so...be prefer to live there where nobody is giving you the status of a first class citizen rather second class or third class..no matter you have States Green Card !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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^^ And we live in pakistan ...with full freedom and liberty..not even a 0.0001% fear and terror of any racism...hate remarks...anti-muslims slogans.....ruining of dignity...suspicious of hujab..beard...phone tapping...FBI fear....etc etc....
Yes...we have lack of necessities.....
poor people
*poor economic conditions..
*low pay-rates..
*less luxuries...
But atleast our Khudi and Ghairat is not mudslindgered by anyone...We enjoy the first class status..we move anywhere..eat..talk..and chat...nobody will look down upon us....We can live without good necessities but with "FREEDOM" and LIBERTY....we are not mental slaves...of others....neither we have to look that ..due to our some attitude our universities and class fellows will become angry...or our neighbours will be suspicious towards us and can call for US security Agencies...and FBI etc....
We breath in a free air...with absolutely free mind...yes we have not minarates...of dollars and pounds...but we are not "SLAVES" !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent..i fully agree...when we dont look down upon anyone...then we will not allow anyone the F*** to look down upon us.....we are not chammars...or mairasi...we are the respected citizens of a nuclear state....and want the same respect what we give to others...
It doesn't matter, all you Pakis out there in the West will have to face it. It's a sad reality. Goras will hate you inside no matter how strict the rules that they have to abide by are, regardless of all the anti-racism bullsh*t they talk about. The only other option you have is completely lose your identity and become another one of those "who am I?" people (i.e. goras, although you will still be brown physically). As a Muslim and as a Paki, you don't belong in the West. The West is like a book with a shiny cover that is crawling with maggots inside once you open it. Sorry to ruin it for people like legbreakgoogly (my quintessential "ABCD"), but that's the truth in my opinion.
Excellent and beautifully explained...i 100% agree with you.....
man...they still remeber the crusades of Saladin...i am not aginst them...some are very good people...but you cannot change the mentality of 800 years...whatsoever you do....even become more Americans or Britans than themselves...they will not accept you....they will not accept you...they will not accept you.......
Yes...truthy is bitter...but have guts and courage to accept its bitterness...Just see what EU is doing with Turkey....Turkish PM sent his daughter to USA as she takes Scarf while in Turkey..its ban...even than EU ...is not allowing to take Turkey in it....All those people who sing the songs of un-biasness of West...remain in fools paradise...they only deceive themselves ..no one else......
you are different and remains different for them...Yopu have only self respect and dignity ..in your own country Pakistan...no one else....believe it or not....Now ..its your choice to live with self respect and dignity or without it !!!!!!
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Dawaa-e-dil I agree :k:
One can only live with honour and dignity in ones own land.. I was born in Britain and grew up here but not once have I felt British, of course I have a soft spot for it and all things Brit like Corrie, devon custard, roast dinners/yorkshire puddings, mancunian/lancashire accent, that damp rainy smell etc. and my few lovely colleagues but my sense of selfrespect never lets me feel British, I’ll miss it when we move to Pak for good and it’d be a culture shock living amongst FOBS but I’d also feel like a wannabe pretending to be Brit, there’s too many haters in this country who despise us, even the nice ones will sometimes make a comment which makes you feel like s***, not to mention the media nowadays.. Everyone will always think of us as “Pakis” so we may aswell be proud of it.
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Totally agree with Dawa-i-Dil and confuzzled. Regardless of all the problems in Pakistan, you'll always the two most important things with you: your self-respect and your dignity.
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Exactly… I agree with you… apni mitti apni mitti hee hotee hai…no matter you reach the House of Lords there…still you are not acceptable to them…
And if yes..Paki is a name they call us…we call it with more pride…Yes we were paki… we are paki…and we will remain as paki…
Its our biggest identity…the green passport is our recognization…and we are proud of it… We are first Muslim Nuclear State…and we have the best proffesional armed force of the world…we have smashed the world supreme power of Russia and India in Kashmir and in previous wars…If we are less than tens…we are better than thousands…
Nobody has a right to say a single word against us…no matter he is from USA and UK…we the hell care about these pseudo super powers and Gods of world…these gods have been finally coming to thier ultimate end to what is going to them in Iraq and Afghanistan…i am not saying they are facing defeat in these 2 countries…they have been defeated in every aspect…in every angel…and in every manner…game is over now…and i have waited my whole life for this moment …!!!
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Totally agree with Dawa-i-Dil and confuzzled. Regardless of all the problems in Pakistan, you'll always the two most important things with you: your self-respect and your dignity.
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:k:
I am slightly surprised this article is even being discussed, because it is documented that action was taken against the students causing problems.
Best thing to do in that situation, as our RELIGION suggests (how quickly we forget the Prophet’s way…), is to move away and go somewhere else where you can avoid confrontation and that the best way to handle discrimination is by educating those around us.
Instead you waste your time insulting Brits, as if that’s going to make a difference. (although I agree - Brits aren’t the easiest people in the world)
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We are first Muslim Nuclear State...and we have the best proffesional armed force of the world...we have smashed the world supreme power of Russia and India in Kashmir and in previous wars...If we are less than tens...we are better than thousands....
Are you delusional or just have a different set of history books than I do cuz I sure didn't read about any wars where Pakistan smashed anybody.
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Nobody has a right to say a single word against us...no matter he is from USA and UK...
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But you have the right to badmouth others? I didn't realize that Pakistan or any country and its people were perfect and above criticism. I won't go into a laundry list of the their less than commendable actions/atributes, as unlike you I don't get all goose-pimply by pointing out faults or wishing for the demise of Pakistan or its people. Obviously the type of racism/ignorance/bullying described in this article shouldn't be happening anywhere, but surely it is the exception and not the rule.
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these gods have been finally coming to thier ultimate end to what is going to them in Iraq and Afghanistan.....i am not saying they are facing defeat in these 2 countries...they have been defeated in every aspect...in every angel...and in every manner...game is over now......and i have waited my whole life for this moment .....!!!!!!!!!
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You might want to hold off on popping that cork. Just because Iraq and to a lesser degree Afghanistan refuses to become a civil society without being suppressed by somebody doesn't equal the ultimate end to either the US or UK.
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Are you delusional or just have a different set of history books than I do cuz I sure didn't read about any wars where Pakistan smashed anybody.
you are also right...actually Russia was defeated by India......
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But you have the right to badmouth others? I didn't realize that Pakistan or any country and its people were perfect and above criticism. I won't go into a laundry list of the their less than commendable actions/atributes, as unlike you I don't get all goose-pimply by pointing out faults or wishing for the demise of Pakistan or its people. Obviously the type of racism/ignorance/bullying described in this article shouldn't be happening anywhere, but surely it is the exception and not the rule.
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in pakistan...the most powerful man is hindu ..Justice Bhagwandas...unfortunately we have not any Nareendar Moodi !!!!!!!!!!
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You might want to hold off on popping that cork. Just because Iraq and to a lesser degree Afghanistan refuses to become a civil society without being suppressed by somebody doesn't equal the ultimate end to either the US or UK.
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Indeed, they’ve all got the sh*ts because of Pakistan’s nuclear capabilities…
I remember reading an American general (John Abizaid I think) who basically said attacking Iraq was a bad idea as the Iraqis were uselss anyway, they should have attacked and broke-up Pakistan because of it’s nuclear capabilities and Saudi Arabia because of its vast oil reserves… This proves their reasons for attacking our lands are not to help us or “civilise us” as some of them claim but to control us and rule us..
They want to divide the Muslimeen and then rule us, this Abizaid dude suggested a whole plan on which Muslim countries to divide and how. That’s all they want to do divide and rule, “civlising us”, hahaha lie upon lie, first WMD which was proved to be a lie now this, these barbarians civlising us? It’s probably these who carry out all these bomb attacks in the name of Muslims..
They are very Makaar, wherever they go in the Muslim lands they leave war and suffering, it’s all part of their plan..
They want to enslave us and take our lands, whether it’s the Indians or the Israelis, and they know they’ll only manage it by dividing us but Insha Allaah, Allaah is with us…
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Yes, we do live with full freedom in Pakistan: freedom of heart and freedom of mind, what else would one want? The other kinds of so-called “freedoms” - freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of press blah blah blah - come miles later.
Because I guess you understand a lot of stuff don’t you? 
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