has my "rukhsati" been done

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Khummi, this was almost 40 years ago - like I said before my time.

But forget about discovering the joys of being pregnant together - why put a taboo on something that is religiously acceptable? Everyone says you need to control your desires - who's everyone? A closed-minded society? Allah has said there's nothing wrong with being together so, what place does society have in such a relationship when it's restrictions are wrong?

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Plenty of girls even after rukhsati are separate from their husbands due to jobs and stuff like that. They still carry on with getting pregnant and stuff. It's really no one's business how they manage.

And even in the all 'modern shodern' families where the wife is independent/working etc you still see them going back to live with their mothers 1-2 months before they baby arrives.

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I see. So disliking/not seeing a point to a particular tradition makes one self hating?

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Naa, there's lot more to it. I can tell the difference when I see it.

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Do let me know when you 'see it'. It's very interesting to hear your opinions.

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lol...

ok.

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You ain't got no........rukhsatisfaction...

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A nikkah is performed so you don't end up doing something in sin. One of the biggest sins. So, if you have nikkah done so you don't sin, but you still live in the parents house, but essentially sneak behind your parents' backs (I am assuming no parents willingly opens their house to their bahu/damad so they can have a one night stand), then why go through such torture in the first place? Plenty of couples legitimately are living away from their spouses, due to work, due to immigration issues etc. And it's torture. Forget about being intimate. Just not having your life partner around for every single moment is torture. But if you're treating the pre-rukhsati time, as nothing but a time for one-night stands without having any form of responsibility, then you don't deserve to be in such an amazing relationship in the first place. Either curb your desire, or use condoms, or live under one roof.

If due to circumstances such as a job or studies or whatever you can't live with your husband for whatever reason, but you have been living together as husband and wife for a while, then whatever, get pregnany, have twins, adopt cats and dogs and children all you want. But if you're living under the roof of your parents, and your parents are supporting you (ie paying for you), you haven't lived with the husband as husband and wife, then you don't deserve to pretend to be married and then act as if you are living together. There has to be a line somewhere. If you can't wait to do it, then live together. You're halal for each otehr right? Then if you're so ready to shorn off some cultural requirements ie intercourse before living together, then you don't pretend around to follow through on other sentiments of rukhsati and have another party afterwards.

As for your "well put and thought out" argument of the girl living with the parents after delivering, yes it happens, but like I said before, the couple's been living together. The husband is paying the hospital fees, the clothing for the wife and his child, and all other expenses. It's good for the mother as it allows her to unwind and recoup, and if off chance she gets postpartum depression, she has some help and doesn't go and drown her baby. But like I said before, the woman's been living with her husband and he went through the entire pregnancy with her. Sorry but I don't buy your last point of how it's alright to get pregnant like you're getting pregnant in a one night stand and it's equivalent to a young mother living with her parents post-delivery. Oh btw, it doesn't happen in all cases.

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This whole issue is getting pretty common, isn't it? Why don't girls and boys talk to their parents and tell them the truth?

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Peace Khumar

This is hilarious ... :D .... condoms - good for preventing pregnancies, preventing diseases and preventing parents from getting angry at married kids if they get it on before rukhsati ...

Well done Khumar ... I love it!

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Did you hold hands yet? If you did, I think you're rukhsafied :-/

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Khummi, I disagree with the whole concept of a delayed rukhsati, so in my mind following the nikkah, there would be no need to "sneak around" and have one-night stands with one's spouse. Why are we so concerned about pleasing our parents' incorrect ideas of what a legitimized married relationship ought to be when Allah has said the two people in the nikkah'ed relationship can begin their lives together.

If the couple can't begin their life together (for financial/social reasons), then delay the nikkah until such time as they can.

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:eek:

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Reading this thread makes it sound like as if the whole purpose of nikkah is to get laid. lol...

Can anyone please provide me with a reference to that hadith "maa baap ko uff taq na kaho" , I swear I heard it somewhere on TV.

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Can you kindly provide the hadith that says that getting laid is not permitted until the rukhsati or even that a rukhsati is mandated by Islam?

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I agree with you there (if it wasn't already obvious).

I never said it was alright. I was just comparing it. In Pakistan it is quite normal for the girl's parents to manage the financial and emotional responsibilities when their daughter is having a baby. She goes back to her husband/in-laws when everything is done and dusted. I actually heard one MIL say she didn't want her DIL back until she could look after herself.

I wouldn't equate a married couple getting together to a one night stand.

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Okay, I can get behind this idea - fair enough, one shouldn't pick and choose between which cultural customs are acceptable - be consistent. But like I said, eliminate the whole delayed rukhsati, period.

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I stopped reading right here yo. Your husband can take anywhere and he doesn't need to ask any permission from nobody. Hear me..nobody. You can go out..stay out for couple of days..that shouldn't matter to anybody.

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Peace Jolie

People simply can't be pleased ... on one hand Muslims are criticised for getting married and having sex with complete strangers and on the other hand when complete strangers get nikkahfied and told to get to know one another first before getting it on ... we are told Islam allows us to get it on ... who are they to stop me ... Well get it on then ... but don't complain if it doesn't work out you wanna end the marriage and you have lost your cherry ... at least after nikkah and before rukhsati - you have time to work out if you really can live together and have the chance to end it before losing your cherry ...

Sometimes things have to be said blatantly ...