Haram things for charity

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Selling of Gold is not haram. You are just realising the maximum value of the watch so that you can utilise for good of as many as possible. I am sure you have seen ceremonial swords sold or gifted by the Sheikhs of Arabia. [Mind you, the actions of the Sheikhs in no way legitimises selling/gifting of gold]

There are specific sayings of the blessed Prophet (saw) that forbids any ‘handling’ of Alcohol. This is where I differentiated between selling of gold and that of wine.

*Narrated by Abdullah ibn Umar: The Prophet (Sal-allahu-aleihi-wassallam) said: “Allah has cursed wine, its drinker, its server, its seller, its buyer, its presser, the one for whom it is pressed, the one who conveys it, and the one to whom it is conveyed.” * - Transmitted by Abu Dawud

*Verily Allaah cursed khamr – the one who produces it and the one for whom it is produced, the one who sells it and the one who buys it, the one who drinks it and the one who earns from the sale of it, the one who carries it and the one who it is carried to, and the one who serves it.” *[Reported by At-Tirmidhee and Ibn Maajah]

I hope reading my response to the notes 1) and 2), you see very important difference. A Muslim cannot be associated with wine in any circumstances whereas Muslim man is forbidden from ‘wearing’ gold but can deal in gold in other circumstances.

Brother Fraudia, we should not look at everything in its monetary value. In Islamic terms wine is najas (impure) and has no value rather it is negative.

Allow me to give you a scenario: Suppose a person (a very decent one) while on his daily walk in a park finds a kilo of opium stashed away under the bushes.

Very sincerely and in good faith he decides to sell it and utilise that money to fund all the medicines needed annually for a hospital in a third world country.

The intentions of the person are very good but will you accept his action? Will you not agree that kilo of opium should be flushed down the drain or let the authorities burn it up in smoke?

I think we as Muslims should see alcohol and drugs as one and the same thing – impure –thus forbidden to utilise them in any form even if it seems to be good in our eyes.

I understand the sensitivity and trickiness of the situation.

My cousin holds a very senior post in a private bank in the city and he used to face similar situation. He (along with other Muslims) and other senior management decided to let their clients know that the senior staff collectively sponsor activities (Trips to seaside, presents on birthdays, xmas, eid, diwali, etc.) of a local institution caring for mentally handicapped children. So the clients now actively sponsor some of the activities instead of giving them the ‘seasonal gifts’.

I understand it is very difficult and tricky doing it individually but once it is organised collectively and announced as such, it really produces results.

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Thank you for a very informative post.
I still ahev one clarification question, on teh topic of the watch, its not just that its gold. I mean if it were just gold there is no issue with even myself keeping it as an asset. the challenge is that it is gold jewelry, anyone who will buy it will wear it. Now with gold jewelry being forbidden for men, how can I support someone or enable someone to do something that is haram.

I have however decided that I will sell the watches and use the funds for some charity, hopefully my intentions of helping others would override the fact that some guy would be wearing gold jewelry because I sold it to him

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Can I still keep the Omega now...I love all the constellations...:D

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if you win money from lottery or selling the gold watch, can you go to the mosque and tell the people that the money you are donating came is such and such way. Would that help? isnt the intentions of a person matter? hey, I was only trying to help!

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Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al’Aas (ra) reported that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “Whoever of my Ummah wears gold and dies wearing it, Allah will deny him the gold of Paradise. Whoever of my ummah wears silk and dies wearing it, Allah will deny him the silk of Paradise.” (Reported by Imam Ahmad).

*`Ali (ra) reported that the Prophet of Allah (saw) took a piece of silk in his right hand and a piece of gold in his left, and said: “These are forbidden for the males of my Ummah.” *(Reported by al-Nisaa’i and Abu Dawud).

The Prophet (saw) also said: “Wearing silk and gold is permitted for the women of my ummah and prohibited for the males.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad)

Brother Fraudia (sounds strange addressing you as fraudia)

You can see the wearing of gold is forbidden for the Muslims Males. The non Muslim who buys your gold watch is hopefully residing in non Muslim country thus out of Jurisdiction of Shariyyah (as if any Muslim state implements Shariyyah Laws).

May Allah (swt) accept your good deeds and reward you amply -ameen

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Music concerts ,Fashion shows etc conducted for charity is it good or bad?
in ka thawab hota hai?

nope

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^
challo...like as if 15 other ppl did not say it already :)