aap sab kay liyay 2 sawal
Music concerts ,Fashion shows etc conducted for charity is it good or bad?
in ka thawab hota hai?
If somebody wins a lottery and donates part of it for charity is ka thawab hota hai?
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Bad. No.
No
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^thanks this is what I thought
wasted an hour trying to convince a friend but to no avail
can you give any examples from the life of the Prophet or sahaba to illustrate this point
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its like going to hajj with the haraam earnings...
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I think the following should help:
O ye who believe! Give of the good things which ye have (honourably) earned, and of the fruits of the earth which We have produced for you, and do not even aim at getting anything which is bad, in order that out of it ye may give away something, when ye yourselves would not receive it except with closed eyes. And know that Allah is Free of all wants, and worthy of all [2:267]
"Your wealth, your children, are only a temptation, whereas to be with Allah is an immense reward. So keep your duty to Allah as best as you can, and listen and obey and spend, That is better for your soul, and whosoever is saved from his own greed is the one who is successful. If you lend to AlIah a goodly loan, He will double it for you and will forgive you, for Allah is the Responsive Element." (64:15-17)
Abu Hurayrah (radhi allahu anhu) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) said, what translated means: “Allah, the Exalted, is Tayyib (Good and Pure) and He only accepts that which is Tayyib. Allah has indeed Commanded the believers with what He has Commanded the Messengers, He said, “0 (you) Messengers! Eat of at-Tayyibat (all things good and pure), and do righteous deeds." [23:51] and, “O you who believe! Eat of the lawful things that We have provided you” [2:172].
Therefore, what the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) meant by: “And He only accepts that which is Tayyib” is that, the reward will not be granted, the praise will not be directed and the angels will not be told of one good deed, unless he fulfills all the conditions of a certain good deed. Furthermore, Allah will not accept the charity from impermissible means, as the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) has stated, what translated means: “Allah neither accepts the prayer without performing Tahur (purity, washing up for prayer) nor the charity from Ghalul (theft, especially from war possessions).” [Saheeh Muslim].
“Whoever donates the weight of one date in Sadaqah (charity) from Halal means, and Allah only accepts which is Tayyib, then Allah will accept it (the charity) in His Right (Hand) and will then raise it for its giver, like when one of you raises his camel, until it (the charity) becomes like a mountain.” [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]
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so in a totally hypthetical scenario where I never buy a lottery ticket but one somehow gets in my possession and a rightful owner can not be found, and this ticket wins $200M. lets say I dont want these winnings from the lottery. In your view its preferable from a religious stance to let the money sit untouched in some bank vault so it rotts versus maybe giving it to needy orphans and under privileged families?
Does not seem very logical now, does it?
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^ IF Allah wills, a dollar you spend from your own pocket can feed a nation...than 200 million dollars earned from haram venues...this world is Allah's creation...and our purpose in life is nothing but obedience to him and submission to him..
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Does not seem very logical now, does it?
well, a lottery ticket making its way into your possession, how logical is that?
talking about such hypothetical scenarios, the likes of which have not occurred, and demanding fatwas on them was greatly discouraged by the sahaabas and the following generation. They would always say.."when such a thing happens to you, then come and ask."
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From book of lost property Al-Bukhari
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When the owner of a lost object describes the thing, it is given to him
- It is related that Ubayy ibn Ka'b said, "I found a purse with a hundred dinars and went to the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace. He said, 'Publicise for a year.' I publicised it for a year and did not did anyone who recognised it. Then I went to him and he said, 'Publicise it for a year.' I publicised it for a year and did not find anyone. Then I went to him a third time. He said, 'Note the details its container and string and count them in case its owner comes. Otherwise, use them.' I used them." [Shu'ba said,] "I met him [Salama] latter in Makka and he said, 'I do not know whether it was three years or one year.'"
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X: Does one take lost property that is found and not leave it to spoil or until someone who does not deserve it takes it?
2305. It is related that Suwayd ibn Ghafala was heard to say, "I was with Salman ibn Rabi'a and Zayd ibn Suhan on an expedition when I found a whip. He said to me, 'Drop it,' and I said, 'No. If I find its owner, * otherwise I will use it.' When we went on hajj, I passed by Madina and asked Ubayy ibn Ka'b. He said, 'In the time of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, I found a purse containing a hundred dinars. I brought it to the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and he said, 'Publicise for a year.' I publicised it for a year and then I went to him and he said, 'Publicise it for a year.' I publicised it for a year and then went to him. He said, 'Publicise it for a year,' and I publicised it for a year and then went to him a fourth time. He said, 'Note the details its contents, container and string. If its owner comes, give it to him. Otherwise, use them.'" Salama related this and said, "I met him later in Makka and he said, 'I do not know whether it was three years or one year.'"
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Does not seem very logical now, does it?
apart from agreeing others who disagreed with you, I just want to say that any good deed done using that money does not bear rewards. You can help an orphan sure, if you want. Just do not expext to get a sawaab of it...
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What Anwaar said...do give, but do not expect any reward for it. In fact, if the money is ill-gotten, you should not expect any less a punishment....
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so anwar and picoio your opinion differs from what sharabi said and the non opinion mumbo jumbo from crescent?
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31- its logical, and it happens. things get lost, things get passed in gifts, inheritance, what nots that maybe you have no interest in but you have to deal with them
The example given was of a hypothetical nature to show a significant sum and to drive a pont across. However things like these happpen to many of us but at a smaller scale.
so lets forget hypothetical situations and use some real examples..
During college, i had money problems and I did not pay some bills on time. Later when i wanted to get power for my place the utility company asked for a deposit which I had to give them to get power. They kept the deposit, I forgot about it, years passed and more years passed, then they decided that my credit was better and their experience with me as a customer did not warrant that they hold a deposit. So they returned it, alongwith interest for all those years.
Now, if somone believes that interest is haram (which I dont but others do) and gets such a refund with interest, and there is a world of need around him (thats not hypothetical just look around), if he does not want to use the money, should that money just sit tere and go to waste or be given to some worthy cause.
want another example, I have a $10K omega watch given by Shaikh Zaid of Dubai to someone in my family who passed it to me. I have never worn it, partially because its way to expensive for me to just wear around, secondly its gold ( i dont wear gold and I dont like gold). So its sitting in a safe deposit box. Now it being a gold men’s watch and gold not allowed for men, this thing is kinda sorta haram-ish. Should I not sell it and donate the money to some needy cause.
can we have a fatwa now. 
shabaash
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ill gotten money is not always intentional and I doubt that Allah would punish you for ill gotten money in which you did not have a decision. e.g. look at my example of interest from utility company above. if someone belives interest is haraam and gets a refund check with interest, how is he liable for any punishment.
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^ look at post #10 second example
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Nope. my opinion does not differ from that of Sharaabi
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What if somebody gives you an expense gift, and you give that away (or a part of it) to charity.. would you get a reward for that?
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^ yes, why not? Assuming its from Halaal venues..
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I see..