OK, I am perfectly clear on the consumption of what is haram and halal in terms of food and drink.
How do you figure out what is haram in body lotions, lipsticks, etc…I’ve been using a perfectly decent shampoo but all of a sudden the question of it being halal came up.
What are the rules here?
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No rules in my understanding, if the item is not for consumption ..
One has to take care of Paak and Na-Paak in that case rather than haraam and halaal
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Soap has a definite Fatwa in Sunni School of thought - fatwa by late Shaikh Yousuf Ludhiyaanvi:
A soap of all sorts are fine because the chemical decomposition of the ingridient makes it okay; however, anything consumable, needs to be from halaal sources.
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So where are those people coming from who are so picky about the products they apply on their skin?
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^ I think it stems from that fact that some of these products contain alcohol in 'em in one form or rather.
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But then if I am using a product externally would the alcohol in it still be an issue?
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No it wont be an issue
its a misconception that people have about personal care products and the ingredients
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if u're that cautious about beauty stuff with alcohol in it as an ingredient than better go for things that doesn't have any alcohol in it
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I was not cautious until I heard some stuff yesterday and I decided to find out. Thanks guys for your input.
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As long as you are not eating your shampoo it should be fine. :)
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Alcohol in perfumes and other beauty stuff is not even an issue…
It’s not the alcohol which comes under the definition of “liquor” or “Kham’r” …
It’s the posionous alcohol and comes under the class of ALCOHOL in periodic table because it has ‘OH’ element bonded at the end :halo: Ethyl Alcohol, I think it is?
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let's all use lemons to air freshen & rose water for personal use. :>
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So where are those people coming from who are so picky about the products they apply on their skin?
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An animal is halaal if it is slaughtered according to Islamic means. Animals that are slaughtered in other manners, are not halaal to eat, and also their dead body is najis
So the problem arises when cosmetic products use animal byproducts to make them. If it contains animal byproducts from an animal that was not slaughtered properly, then this is impure. For example, a cow that is not slaughtered according to Islamic laws is najis, so if a cream is made using byproducts from this dead cow, that it is also najis and not ok to use
Like AQ mentioned, some scholars have said that even if animal byproducts are used in soap, the chemical reaction that occurs during its manufacturing transforms the product into something halaal, so for soaps it is not an issue, but you should check out the rest of your products by contacting the company and asking if they use animal byproducts. I went through all my products a few years ago and was surprised to find that a number of them do use animal and many even pork byproducts. Thankfully there are alot of alternatives, companies who do not use any animal byproducts in their products
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i dont understand y ppl dont use products with alcohol in them???
like my father doesnt use perfume while going to moque i dont know y ??
i say ke its ok cu this alcohol is not the one used for drinking and even if it is it evaporates like in a few minutes u dont need to worry bout it but still.................
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The criteria is between what is najis and what is haraam and the different messages are due to different opinions based on when and how najis is defined or whether it is recognised at all.
Something that is najis will accelerate the decaying process, be it fermentation, rotting, decomposing, etc. Urine is najis, but various fiqh allow limits on how much urine can be on clothes for a change not to be made mandatory.
Alcohol according to some opinions is always najis, but according to Hanafi fiqh only pure alcohol is not najis therefore can be worn, and pure alcohol is allowed only for medicinal purposes so long as certain limits are not exceeded, from memory.
Yeah i was thinking when they mean alcohol is haram do they only mean alcohol thats used for consumption or also alcohols that are found in a lot of our industrials processes??
Its used in many processes we may not even consider. And yea alcohol just has that OH bond. Does that mean every type of alcohol is wrong??
No it wont be an issue
its a misconception that people have about personal care products and the ingredients
Alcohol in perfumes and other beauty stuff is not even an issue...
Fear Allah and do not speak without knowledge. The group of scholar who discourage the use of conventional perfumes have a reason and its totally justified.
All four madhabs agree that alchohol is najas. And the proof:
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O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are rijs of Shaytan's handwork; eschew such (filth), that ye may prosper.**[Surah Ma'idah, verse 90]
The word Allah uses--rijs--means filth, which is najas by default. The issue arises when its time to pray and you're wearing something which is essentially najas. Hence the discouragement.
Fear Allah and do not speak without knowledge. The group of scholar who discourage the use of conventional perfumes have a reason and its totally justified.
The Fatwa was given by a renowned scholar of India Maulana Yousuf Islahi of Deoband. The najis is consumable liquor. The class Alcohol is not liquor.
why did you chop out the rest of my message :)?
oh the context?
Fear Allah and do not speak without knowledge. .
how did you jump to conclusion that I dont fear Allah, sharabi sahab?
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AQ, your souce is very authentic and that is the school of thought my husband and I follow. Thanks for the clarification.