HAQ MEHR

okay guys, i am not sure if this has been discussed before and i appologise if it has but i was reading another thread and came across this and i was like what is the correct or ideal amount for HAQ MEHR, i mean how is it decided upon, is it a percentage, or just a number that we throw out or do we consider things before we give out a figure.

It is a very interesting concept, on the other hand what is the whole idea behind HAQ MEHR, i mean the guy is (and please dont kill me for this but this is what our ancestors say) taking responsibility of the girls happiness and well being right so where does this come into equation.

Thanks :k:

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Haq Mehr in my family is always decided upon at least a week or two before the nikah. We've attended weddings where it wasnt discussed and there was an actual negotiation right in front of the banquet hall...in one situation an argument broke out between the fathers!

Anyway, I dont know what the exact formula is for determining the amount...it has to be enough though for her to be able to survive on for a few months.

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If we consider it purely from the Quranic point of view, the husband is instructed to give a marriage gift to the bride at the time of being wed. Indeed, there are some interpretations that say it should not be deferred or refused and the simple guideline in the Quran should be followed.

It would be interesting to know how the other ideas in regards to Haq Mehr were established.

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:hmmm:

lol @ argument outside the banquet hall.

Thats what i wanna know, as far as i know wasn`t HAQ MEHR a gift to the wife from the husband, but i hear ppl having arguments and negotiations etc. thus the question :k:

From what I remember, it's an amount that has to be agreed upon. I have heard of some being as low as a few hundreds and some as high as a tens of thousands. When reading the nikkah, the amount is mentioned at that time so it doesn't really make sense to negotiate it at the banquet hall and not beforehand.

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^ You're right. Which is why we were surprised when we saw it happening.

Typically, Ive seen it anywhere between 5,000 - 50,000 USD.

Her father proposed 5K and the father of the groom refused and suggested 500.

Her father said in that case...why not make it $37 (correct me if Im wrong please) which is what the amount in our Prophet's (pbuh) time was.

Her mehr was $37.

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does it have to be money? I thought jewellery counted.

Also, can you ask for intangible things like paying for a Masters?

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it can be anything thats worth that much money .... so if ur haq mehr is 5000$ u can even send her 5000$ worth of doritoes if you want ..

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:rotfl:

He might have been referring to the Mehr that Fatima (RA) got. I'm not an expert on this but I think it might have been some measure of gold. From what I know, the man should not commit to something beyond his means. Otherwise there are no limits as such as far as I know.

okay now that is a new one :eek: .

Stardust that seems like a reasonable demand :hmmm:

Meher-e- Fatimi (the Meher which was arranged at the time of Hazrat Fatima's (RA) marriage) was 132 tola of silver, so the value of this amount is often still given.

Did he learn to negotiate from George Costanza? :D

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From what i understand, Mehr is given to the bride as a gift and suppose to be given as soon as possible.
Secondly, the amount of mehr is suppose to be a certain % of husband’s pay.

i found this information online:
The mahr has to be fixed taking into account the bridegroom’s position in life. That is, it should not normally be more than he is easily able to afford, whether it be a lump sum or some article of value. Jurists have different views on what the minimum amount should be, but all agree that it should be substantial enough for something to be bought against it. In other words, any amount which is sufficient for a purchase is acceptable as mahr.
Payments to and from the Bride in Islamic Law and Tradition

i dont agree with everything on this website but at least tthe above information seems right.

:jazak: for the clarification

:hehe:

I know…but I think bride’s father got mad at this negotiation thing because it was embarrassing in front of all these people right before the nikah. So, out of anger he said why dont you set the amount to $37…why even $500? I’ll give my daughter enough so she doesn’t need you.

Something like that.

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proper way is to have it decided and document weeks if not months before the shadi function. spell out the terms (like will it be cash or that worth of jewlery or house or car etc etc) warna if this has to go down to wire on shadi day, people will bite their lips anxiously to listen "KHANAAA KHUL GAYA HAI AA JAEEN" sound byte ...while both parties are in argument

There is no pre-determined amount or formula for this but it should be an amount which is convenient for guy to pay and yet give girl the amount to survive the same lifestyle for few months.

ahaaaan :hmmm: thanks D6C

Noting that you are the Business section Moderator!

Haq Mehr is also the pre-Nuptual agreement.

Half of the amount is due before rukhsati! this half bride may fore go or forgive becuase she loves him so much…:slight_smile:

the second half is what the bride is entitled to in case (God Forbid) there is a divorce…and the Love got extinguished…:frowning: