He use to discuss the possibilty of Afghanistan and Pakistan forming as a new Muslim land. May his vision be true if that is good for all people from the two countries.
In any event,
Happy Nau Roz
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Happy nau roz (Naway Kaal) to all those who celebrate this day. May this year bring more blessing then the one before. I hope you all had a great time and enoyed some tasty food, and ofcourse Heft Mewa.
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He use to discuss the possibilty of Afghanistan and Pakistan forming as a new Muslim land. May his vision be true if that is good for all people from the two countries.
In any event,
Happy Nau Roz
Who is He ?
As far as I know Nau Roz is basically persian, then what it has to do with Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Your post is quite ambigious . Please elaborate
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he is that delectable delight who left me, alone, after finding my sincerity - my good and my bad as he saw it fit his frame of mind.
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Happy nau roz (Naway Kaal) to all those who celebrate this day. May this year bring more blessing then the one before. I hope you all had a great time and enoyed some tasty food, and ofcourse Heft Mewa.
My bro our Naway Kaal is first of Muaharram Al-Haraam, we are not like those confused panjsheri tajiki MusliZartoshti religious-hybrid ****s...
This is the time for the Zoroastrian new year, we might once have been Zoroastrian but we're Muslim now and Islam has become a part of our culture..
I'm all for accepting our past for what it was but religions and religious practices change and so has ours.
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He use to discuss the possibilty of Afghanistan and Pakistan forming as a new Muslim land. May his vision be true if that is good for all people from the two countries.
In any event,
Happy Nau Roz
Pashtun regions of Afghanistan should merge with Pakistan and become a province of Pakistan called Afghanya/Pashtunistan togther with NWFP and FATA, the rest of Afghanistan should be made into a Dari speaking country called Khorassan or merged with the Persian countries because they're not Afghans.
For this to happen Pakistan would have to become a confederation with equal autnonomy in every sense to Punjab and Afghanya and of course Sindh, Balochistan and Urduistan/Karachi.
I would like that... At dangerous times like these all Muslim states should do something like this, most of us share borders anyway..
I wouldn't reccoment making the Persian speaking people a part of Pak because they hate Pashtuns and Punjabis..
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please dont make this political, as I am not interested in discussing merging and demerging on this website. Second of all, nau roz is the initiation of spring and we pashtuns look at it as a cultural thing. Since we are agricultural people it has a simple connotations, and no fire worshipping or whatever. Plus pashtu calendar is based on zorastrianism or atleast heavily influenced by it, so i don't why we can't base it on that. I have heard that many consider Zarthosht one of the prophets.
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Eideh shomma mobarak:flower2:
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he is that delectable delight who left me, alone, after finding my sincerity - my good and my bad as he saw it fit his frame of mind.
Sorry to hear that Dushwari Ji, but looks like the healing has begun you do talk about him freely, that is one way of getting over the hurt.
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As far as I know Nau Roz is basically persian, then what it has to do with Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Your post is quite ambigious . Please elaborate
Iran is not the only Persian country in the world, there are also Afghanistan and Tajikistan. Afghani and Tajiki dialects of Persian are actually older than the Irani dialect of Persian, and Persian actually originated in Afghanistan not Iran.
Nau-Roz is Zoroastrian and all the Iranic ethnic groups including Pashtuns, Ossetians, Persians, Kurds etc. were once Zoroastrians so they carried on this festival even after embracing Islam/Christianity.
The Pashtuns who still celebrate Nau-Roz are a minority mostly from northern Afghanistan who got Persianised by intermarrying with the Tajiks, they're not really Pashtun in anything except name anymore...
As far as I'm aware celebrating it as an Eid with the Heft-Seen/Mewa, goldfish, flowers, deocrations etc. is unheard of amongst Pashtuns in Pakistan, some will try and rekindle the Iranic link and celebrate it but that's individuals rather than society celebrating it as a part of culture.
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please dont make this political, as I am not interested in discussing merging and demerging on this website. Second of all, nau roz is the initiation of spring and we pashtuns look at it as a cultural thing. Since we are agricultural people it has a simple connotations, and no fire worshipping or whatever. Plus pashtu calendar is based on zorastrianism or atleast heavily influenced by it, so i don't why we can't base it on that. I have heard that many consider Zarthosht one of the prophets.
Whatever bro, each to their own I guess..
I know not all but some people certainly do a form of "fireworshipping", us Muslims are meant to believe that only Allah can heal us whereas one of the rituals of Nau Roz is Chahar Shanbeh Suri which suggests that the fire has the power to take your illness away and give you strength which isn't true.. In my misguided days I use to do this with my Persian ex-partners family/friends on tuesday night before the new year.
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Yes, Sindsagar.
he is on my mind, and i plan to keep his memory in a good way for him, to return, if by any chance he may later realize.
not necessarily to become my husband, but to reconcile why he made this decision to deceive me, to feel unsure about m, without giving me any reasons, except blaming it all on Allah and what Allah shows to him - I would want my Allah to show me what he saw and also what I did not see earlier.
My prayers for him will always b there because I stand by my sincerity and will do so, as a human being, as a woman.
it is another topic of discussion that
when the family and the person himself, do not want to welcome someone in the family,
then what can one do is - nobly leave it up to them to see for themselves what will be right and what would have been right.
so yes, the purpose of speaking of him, is because he is activated in the mind, probably.
Sorry to hear that Dushwari Ji, but looks like the healing has begun you do talk about him freely, that is one way of getting over the hurt.
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**Promiscuous paki: **it is extremely easy to say that half of afghanistan should join pakistan.. but my simple question would be: Do u think afghans like pakistanis? They would never in their life let this happen.. Afghans are already preparing to take their land until atak back.. and ur talking about joining more with pakistan.. lolz...
No matter how much difference there is between tajik's and pushtoons .. they still consider themselves as afghans and would never let others interupt in this business of different cultures.. If that was the case then there are whole lots of difference between sindhi or punjabi.. Now should i be saying that since they are difference regions they should be separated? it doesn't make sense.. a country can never have the same language, background of cities and other issues..
And about nou roz.. It has become totally cultural thing for afghans.. They don't consider it as a religious act at all.. So it is more a cultural then religious.. And if u wanna go to religious side of it.. then i will say that there are many other important issues which are completely unislamic considered as culture in pakistan and afghanistan...
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how celebrating nauroz related to forming a new muslim land ?
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that was my question 
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Pashtun regions of Afghanistan should merge with Pakistan and become a province of Pakistan called Afghanya/Pashtunistan togther with NWFP and FATA, the rest of Afghanistan should be made into a Dari speaking country called Khorassan or merged with the Persian countries because they're not Afghans.quote]
Why not merge the Pashtun lands of Pakistan with those in Afghanistan and unite the Afghan people and their nation?
Its silly when people think that we should be adding to Pakistan when Pakistan is so unstable. Maybe if other ethnicities had the right to practice their cultures and languages without Muhajir and Punjabi culture being being enforced on them, then we could talk about adding other ethnicities into our federation. As far as Im concerned, Pashtun culture is dieing in Pakistan because of Urdu and Indic cultures.
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Promiscuous Paki: Why not merge the Pashtun lands of Pakistan with those in Afghanistan and unite the Afghan people and their nation?
Its silly when people think that we should be adding to Pakistan when Pakistan is so unstable. Maybe if other ethnicities had the right to practice their cultures and languages without Muhajir and Punjabi culture being being enforced on them, then we could talk about adding other ethnicities into our federation. As far as Im concerned, Pashtun culture is dieing in Pakistan because of Urdu and Indic cultures
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Fatway ki talwar phir zoroon pur hi!
By the way Afghanistan is far more unstable than Pakistan!
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Hahahahah, thanks for the chuckle… “their land untill Attock back”… 
How can a desert like Afghanistan take anything back from the great land of Pakistan? The land you refer to belongs to Pakistan and to those that inhabit those regions. Afghanistan gave it to the British a long time ago and lost all ownership to it and we Pakistanis won it from the British so it is ours… The people of those regions detest Afghans and would never want to be a part of Afghanistan after all Afghanistan is a country with no future and the Pashtuns of Pakistan don’t want that for their future generations.
You guys can’t have your cake and eat it too.
If you are going to claim that “Afghan” is a ethnicity then admit that it only refers to Pashtuns whilst Tajiks are foreigners in Afghanistan as Khushal Khan Khattak said…
If you are going to claim that the meaning has changed and it is now a nationality for anyone from Afghanistan regardless of ethnicity then you can’t claim Pakistani Pashtuns as Afghans.
As for being similarities between Pashtuns and Tajiks, well to me Pashtuns evolved quite seperately from the other Iranic groups such as Tajiks, Parsiwans, Balochs etc. and have as much cultural links with the Indic group than with the Iranic. This idea of Iranic and Indic being completely seperate is exaggerated, there’s overlaps in places… Besides a lot of Pukhtoons and Punjabis are intermarried and speak Urdu: a language which descends from the Sanskrit language of the Vedic Civilisation of the Indus-Valley (a.k.a Ancient-Pakistan).
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Promiscuous Paki: Why not merge the Pashtun lands of Pakistan with those in Afghanistan and unite the Afghan people and their nation?
Its silly when people think that we should be adding to Pakistan when Pakistan is so unstable. Maybe if other ethnicities had the right to practice their cultures and languages without Muhajir and Punjabi culture being being enforced on them, then we could talk about adding other ethnicities into our federation. As far as Im concerned, Pashtun culture is dieing in Pakistan because of Urdu and Indic cultures
Afghanistan is not a Pashtun country anymore, Dari culture is dominant in Afghanistan now, Pashtun culture is fast dieing at the hands of Dari culture, only the uneducated sheep herders speak Pashto in Afghanistan anymore... Pashto has it better in Pakistan than in Afghanistan, there's much more Pashtuns in Pakistan than Afghanistan anyway.. Soon every city will be like Kabul in Afghanistan all Darised and only Pashto surnames.
I did suggest that Pakistan be made into a confederation before unity happens and Pashtuns take the Afghan label with them...
Far as instability is concerned, Afghanistsan is much worse... It is in Afghanistan where Pukhtoon women are getting raped in front of their young sons, brothers, fathers and husbands and then made to watch their sons and brothers get slaughtered, this is Uzbeks/Tajiks/Hazaras doing (did) this to Pukhtoons in northern Afghanistan, it's not Punjabis doing this in Swat or anywhere in Pak, be thankful, don't blame Punjabis for all the worlds problems...
You people are so blind with emotion and nationalism that you can't think logically, your heads are so deeply buried in sand that you don't even care about your future generations..
I know truth is bitter but you have to face reality.. Blaming Punbjabis or becoming a part of the great land of Ghoolestan wont end your problems only make them worse.
Pakistan is best for us all so be thankful and proud of it and work to improve it, and any Afghan who talks of harming Pakistan, chop his oversized mantu-shaped nose off.