Hamas winning the Palestinian Election.

Current Palestinian PM has resigned ..

Re: Hamas winning the Palestinian Election.

:hula: :hula:

Abbas to Ask Hamas to Form Next Government

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060126/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_election

This is a massive defeat for Israel - all it’s murderous attempts to destroy have failed, as the free will of the Palestinian people has truimphed. :k:

Re: Hamas winning the Palestinian Election.

Democracy triumphs over heavy handed attempts by foreign countires to influence to election!!! :hula:

Re: Hamas winning the Palestinian Election.

Well, Hamas has been coopted into the system.

From a practical standpoint nothing changes. There will still be small scale attacks on Isreal, fences will still be built, Israel will unilaterally withdraw from the territiories they no longer want or need, and Sharons repalcement will be Netanyahu, who will be the only candidate seen as able to control Hamas.

The main difference is that if Hamas does not mellow, and institutionalizes attacks, it will be the governement of PA initiating attacks, and will essentially be a cause of war. Two years from now Hamas will be answerable for their performance, and the will of the Palestinian people will be much different.

This is probably an object lesson that the extremeist world needs to go though. Unless the Palestinians get jobs, security, peace, and economic opportunity, Hamas will fail. They cannot deliver these things without cooperation of wealthy outside powers. The next couple of years will be painful for the Palestinians as Hamas flexes its newfound muscle however.

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One thing, which many western media and analysts fail to see, is that Hamas rise to power has more to do with the domestic agenda than dealing with Israel. They replaced "through popular support" the corrupt old guard and the remnants of Yasir Arafat era from the PA. Its was a win against the elitist in the PA which governed on nepotism and with no social, health or economic policy for the people. Hamas on the domestic level, is the total opposite of Fatah, this is why they won.
Another important point, which many fail to see, is that Abu Mazen, will still remain the president and the person who set the foreign policy of the PA. Hamas will have less to do with getting goods from the outside world, until and unless the outside world is against the people of Palestine.. Its almost what the US wanted when Abu Mazen was the Prime Minister under Yasir Arafat. At that point, the US wanted Arafat to let go of some control over social health and economic issues. So at least the Palestinians don’t suffer through Arafat’s corrupt policies. Now this is what Hamas is going to enjoy, Inshallah the next Prime minister will have enough experience of delivering those good to the people.
What most westerners media outlets are concerned about is the foreign relationship with Israel, they are repeating in every sentence that Hamas, even if it becomes a political entity, "would" have the "hidden" policy of destroying Israel. But they will never mention what Likud's policy is, to have a Jewish state from the river to the sea.
I would say Shalom, to all those who still beleive that Hamas was created by mosad.

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Tomorrow Hamas will wake yp and wonder where to start. They will pass abunch of outrageous Islamic laws, and create a few gruesome spectacles in the streets. Iran will give them money for more guns, but they will essentially be isolated from every side.

Jordan will not deal with them, the Saudis will not send money. The EU will withdraw money at the first street spectacle. They have no experience running a government, building a consensus, or attracting capital. They do have experience adminstering health and welfare programs, but that takes money.

Isreali politics will take a right turn, and the Isrealis will be looking to administer some serious punishment at the first attack. In the short term, this is very bad news for the Palestinian people. On the other hand, the PA was hopelessly corrupt, and should have been dismantled when Arafat died. Slow change never happened, so now we have radical change, with all the baggage that implies.

The 30 seconds of gloating by the Islamists will be followed by years of suffering by the Palestinians until they realize that nothing has really changed.

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Hamas has never been so out in the open and if they choose violence there will be consequences as there always has been, no more hiding. Hamas will renouce it's intention to destroy Israel or funds will freeze up. Corruption within Fatah and their poor running of social programs (something Hamas does well) is what got them unelected Hamas hard stance towards Israel is not what got them elected. Hamas needs to chage their tune or their political adventure will be short lived.

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Shows how much you know about Hamas or the PA when it comes to Islam or even Islamic laws. Palestinians are the most educated bunch compared to their arab counterparts, and thier views on Islamic laws, even that of Hamas or Islamic Jihad are considered as the most liberal when it comes to social or economic issues. Other than the reality that many few know that Hamas ran in these elections as party for "Change & Reform" literally this was the name by which they participated in elections. About the Islamic laws thing, they never in their campaign mentioned or wanted to establishing an "Islamic State".

This says it all.

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Hamas will end up going the Sinn Fein route. There will be an internationally "respectable" political face willing to take part in politics an compromise and an armed wing that it will keep for a long time.

Palestine will become the new Northern Ireland.

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If there is not a crackdown on armed groups then there will be no stability and the stagnation that is currently present will remain allowing the tenticles of corruption to once again wrap itself around the Palestinian politcal leaders and the situation will further deteriorate. This election was not about electing more of the same, will the leaders give the people what they want?

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The world's reaction at Hamas selection is deplorable. Lack of respect towards Palestention people's choice is something worth lamenting. They kept yelling for democracy for decades. First thing they did is react with reservations. Ha!! Palestenian people did not select them because they have an agenda to destroy Israel. They selected them because of social services and inactive/corrupt Al-Fatah regime.

World will demand that Hamas should renounce Terror and accept Israel. They might as well do that because they are in a position they never have been. They are the first one to recognize this unfamiliar territory by inviting Al-Fatah to form a coalition Government. I expect a positive people-oriented approach by Hamas and hopefully world will no longer see it just as a terrorist group but as a political movement that stunned the world with its unexpected success.

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the success of hammas indicates the most important aspect western beast people have not realised tht hammas is the symbol of frustration of people...their hateness for isrealis...palestine people think tht hammas is the organisation tht will help them to solve their problems...israelis have been showing their beats atitude towards palestine people and hammas is the organisation tht has been answering to israeli terrorism.....i hope hammas leads the government with good control and proper management...

hell to USA AND ISRAEL

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And I choose to eat cake and ice cream because it is delicious. That doesn't mean I won't get fat, develop diabities, have a heart attack and die.

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I expect a positive people-oriented approach by Hamas and hopefully world will no longer see it just as a terrorist group but as a political movement that stunned the world with its unexpected success.
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The word sees it as a terrorist group (that provides social services), because it is one. If they do become a political movement, then that is how they will be seen.

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In the Arab world its known as Haraka Al Muqawama Al I*Slamiyah for you it would be Islamic **Resistance* Movement. These different worlds need to talk.

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Hear that scratching sound?

That is the sound of all the Hamas officials sitting down and simultaneously scratching their heads wondering what to do now.

Stay tuned for some wacky times....

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no time for thinking these days. its gonna be celebrations for a few weeks yet me thinks.:yahoo:

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A few weeks? You make them sound even less efficient and less pragmatic than I thought they wre.

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The next report will be 13 people killed by errant "celebratory" AK-47 fire. Keep the kids indoors.

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thanks for the health warning…party pooper. :disgust:

well then you thought wrong dint you :cb: Im sure they’re more grounded and in-tune with the people than the previous gov. were. lets stop with the awful prediction and give em a chance. it a bit obvious the grapes came out sour for some.

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As long as they take the time to denounce the policies that seeks Israel’s destruction, enourages suicide bombers and opposes peace talks, who cares how long they shoot their guns in the air? Cuz if they don't do that, they are doomed from the get-go.