Hi all
I want to take my 3 year old trick or treating this Halloween ,also the preschool she goes to is having a halloween party that i want her to attend ,but my husband thinks this is all Haram. What do you all think, is it really haram, do you let your kids dress up on Halloween and take them trick or treating?
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From this time last year 
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/general/627940-is-it-wrong.html
Like some others in that thread I personally don’t see the harm or much difference between this and having chocolate eggs at Easter..
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don't look at it from 'Halaal/Haraam' perspective. we do a lot of things that are in the grey areas like birthdays, anniversaries etc. just let the kid have some fun but at the same time keep telling the child NOT to believe in witches etc.
i will take my niece's 16 month old daughter trick or treating. :) she loves going outside...will see how much she like trick or treating! :) i'm really excited to take her around.
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oh boy ... Pandoras box!
some ppl/parents really do have strong feelings about this and other similar events like thanksgiving etc. best read the old thread deeba linked u to.
my girl is 3yo .. she barely knows she is human :D... never mind understanding being Muslim or the diff tween harm halal. she will learn in due time. till then .. she gets to fake screech at "pooky punkins" (spooky pumpkins), spiders, ghosts, and go trick n treating with her little friends.
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I don't see any harm in taking my kids trick or treating ... as long I get a share of the candy. Especially ALL the snicker bars :D
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I don't go out of my way for Halloween, but I like my kids to enjoy dressing up/making costumes, trick-or-treating to greet the neighbors, and giving out candy.
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Thanks to everyone who posted a reply, I tried making my husband understand not to make such a big deal of Halloween as this is a kids occasion, let her go to the halloween party dressed up in her fav characters costume(which is sofia the first by the way) at her preschool and take her trick or treating, but he didn't budge instead we got in to an argument and things got ugly as my husband questioned my beliefs and faith in Islam . What started as a discussion about Halloween ended up with I'm not a good muslim wanting to celebrate halloween.
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^ he is such a party pooper
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uh ok.
He is overreacting. I'm guessing you guys live in America since this is an American tradition. So, I guess he dresses and sherwanis and doesn't eat western food etc? Does he want his children to be left out? It's a stupid tradition. Where its all about candy and dressing up. It's part of being 'murricannn.
I mean questioning your faith? that's just a bit blah.
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Thanks to everyone who posted a reply, I tried making my husband understand not to make such a big deal of Halloween as this is a kids occasion, let her go to the halloween party dressed up in her fav characters costume(which is sofia the first by the way) at her preschool and take her trick or treating, but he didn't budge instead we got in to an argument and things got ugly as my husband questioned my beliefs and faith in Islam . What started as a discussion about Halloween ended up with I'm not a good muslim wanting to celebrate halloween.
maybe have him read some of the discussions posted here?
it's unfortunate that things got ugly......
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Maybe you can just do school related activities rather than bring it home. I did Christmas stuff in a play in school but it kind of secularish so my parents weren't bothered.
Besides if we're doing halal haraam then a lot of people put birthdays, anniversaries etc as haraam too. It would be interesting to note what your husband things about banning them too.
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Actually I think it is a legitimate approach to say that you do not like the origins of Halloween and don't want to participate. There are plenty of schools and families in the US that don't. But to be self-righteous and accusatory about it is problematic. Once the two of you are calm, you'll need to find a way not only to address this issue, but to handle future disagreements related to parenting. This is only the beginning.
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Christmas =/= Halloween
Christmas is universal while Halloween is really an American tradition. It's cultural and to say that it has pagan routes and stuff is just a cop out.
Thanksgiving is also not religious. A north american tradition where you eat turkey and not reminisce on the fact that your ancestors slaughtered thousands of natives ;x
It's American history/culture.
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I just say to myself, could a tradition of sharing candy be bad, NEVER!!!
Personally, my girls are allowed to trick or treat and we do put a few pumpkins out, not to assimilate, not because I believe in any religious ties to it but simply because it’s fun. Just like I like Christmas songs :gasp: I like halloween. There is no other reason behind it except that it’s fun to dress up and take your kids trick or treating and enjoying the loot when it’s over.
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Christmas =/= Halloween
Christmas is universal while Halloween is really an American tradition. It's cultural and to say that it has pagan routes and stuff is just a cop out.
Thanksgiving is also not religious. A north american tradition where you eat turkey and not reminisce on the fact that your ancestors slaughtered thousands of natives ;x
It's American history/culture.
Christmas is still strange as Jesus wasn't even born on December 25th. Weird.
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I think SO2 is right that you need to find a way to address these issues in the future without attacking each other.
But I don’t see any harm in it…its a commercial holiday with no real significance. Its an American thing…just like Thanksgiving and manyyyyy other things we participate or acknowledge in our own ways.
I will say this though…up until now my nieces and nephew have all dressed up and gone out to get their candy haul.
One of them attends an Islamic school and even though the school administration tried to make light of Halloween (two years ago) and did their own little “Halaloween” shindig so the kids can sort of get in a bit of the fun too…the parents expressed some severe outrage and now…there’s no sign of it anywhere. I guess what I got out of it was…if you’re telling your kids Halloween is haram…its good to stay consistent with the environment you’re putting them in. My niece had SOOOOO many questions that year…and still does every time she sees a costume. She will point it out and say “this is haraam…my teacher Mrs. *** says so”. This year, my sister is being forced to skip out on Halloween because she can’t confuse the kid anymore…
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Even though my husband isn't letting my daughter participate ,my opinion wont change about halloween. i still don't see anything wrong in dressing up and having candy ( its just for fun). nobody is believing or starting to worship the devil.I think when there are decisions to be made about kids both parents need to have a say , it shouldn't be like where the father makes all the decisions and the mother has to just go along with it otherwise there will be arguments. In our society, when a person thinks of himself as really religious ,he thinks he has a right to be rude and demeaning towards others. In my case, like my husband said that i am trying to become angrez and I should not forget that I am a muslim and many other things that points a finger towards my faith in Islam.
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My daughter is 2 and I won't be taking her out trick or treating. Not this year or any other year for that matter. You can call it "just light hearted fun" all you want but if you do the research, you will not find any sources saying that it is permissible to celebrate halloween. In fact, according to many sources it is actually considered SHIRK. SHIRK is the one sin for which there will never be any forgiveness.
Almost all my Muslim family and friends etc. celebrate halloween, however, rather than just going along with the crowd, i'd rather teach my daughter what is islamically permissible and what is not from a young age. It says in the quran we are not supposed to celebrate any holidays from other religions....only the two eids. I figure she won't miss what she has not ever experienced. Oh and did I mention my daughter's birthday is on halloween. I constantly have people saying to me how cool it is and that she will have costume parties every year. It annoys me to no end. I actually do not like the fact that she was born on haloween. I was hoping for any day but that day. Oh well. For me it is simply her b-day. I do not even think of that day as halloween.
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My daughter is 2 and I won't be taking her out trick or treating. Not this year or any other year for that matter. You can call it "just light hearted fun" all you want but if you do the research, you will not find any sources saying that it is permissible to celebrate halloween. In fact, according to many sources it is actually considered SHIRK. SHIRK is the one sin for which there will never be any forgiveness.
Almost all my Muslim family and friends etc. celebrate halloween, however, rather than just going along with the crowd, i'd rather teach my daughter what is islamically permissible and what is not from a young age. It says in the quran we are not supposed to celebrate any holidays from other religions....only the two eids. I figure she won't miss what she has not ever experienced. Oh and did I mention my daughter's birthday is on halloween. I constantly have people saying to me how cool it is and that she will have costume parties every year. It annoys me to no end. I actually do not like the fact that she was born on haloween. I was hoping for any day but that day. Oh well. For me it is simply her b-day. I do not even think of that day as halloween.
Good for you for having such conviction.
May Allah reward you.
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Christmas =/= Halloween
Christmas is universal while Halloween is really an American tradition. It's cultural and to say that it has pagan routes and stuff is just a cop out.
Thanksgiving is also not religious. A north american tradition where you eat turkey and not reminisce on the fact that your ancestors slaughtered thousands of natives ;x
It's American history/culture.
Halloween is American? It's Celtic actually...a celebration in honour of their death god.
OP, btw Jews and Amish don't celebrate it either so may be your husband does have a point?