Halloween and other occasions

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Read what I wrote above again.

Multiculturism applies to a group of people with different cultures or a country which has many different people with different cultures and a person who is engaged in different activities does not have a set culture that person is said to be assimilated.

The first part is pretty much paraphrasing what i said. As for the second part, you clearly have no clue about what it means to be assimilated. *You're saying being assimilated means one has no culture or has to give up their culture. Essentially, this is the bone I'm picking with you. With all due respect (not sure if any is due) this is incorrect. Take it from someone who considers himself assimilated and is surrounded by immigrants who have assimilated. *

People from any background should be free to be culturally 'assimilated' or not in US for any reason. Does not make them any less American.

I never said it does.

There has never been any material discussion about tolerance or no tolerance, coexisting or not, ever, so try not come up with another issue.

I didn't say tolerance was an issue WRT what you have been saying. I just used it for my definition. I wouldn't say a society is multicultural if it's different cultures living together are but** at war with each other.**

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I did get that you had problem with the concept of assimilation.

**If one gets ‘assimilated’ then yes, one loses the unique identity one has.

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Assimilation means (in terms of culture): **Act of becoming like other people in another country or culture. **

Please go and read a dictionary and then come back to pick a bone with me. :wink:

If this simple concept is beyond your comprehension and intelligence level then I cannot help you.

Regardless of a society which includes people with different cultures at war or not, the society or the country is multicultural.
Where did you get the idea opposite to that? People don’t have to agree with each other’s cultures to have the country called multicultural. :smack:

P.S. It doesn’t matter if respect is due or not, that is purely up to your discretion I am fine as long as I am right and respectful.

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Even in your definition, no where does it say that one needs to give up his own culture to assimilate into a new one.
That’s a personal decision, not a fact.

I almost feel sorry for you, the fact that this is your view on assimilation and multiculturalism. One needs to be rid of his own ways to adapt new ones and not be able to carry the old ones parallel. By that philosophy, new responsibilities mean you give up old ones. So stupid.

God help you.

And LOL you don’t understand the different levels of assimilation.

Definition for multiculturalism:

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I am as open as one can see. I said everyone has the right to enjoy any festivities without being criticized even if they do not agree with the basic concept.

It is not my definition dude or dudette. It is dictionary and universal definition. It says one loses one's identity once gets assimilated, you are adamant of otherwise.

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Read the edit. And the definition.

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The question has never been about the definition of multiculturism as you can read above in any of my post. It was about the assimilation.

Now tell me did you not prove yourself wrong again by posting the definition of the word which was not even in contest.

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LOL!

Nawww trying so hard to twist my words.

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Please bring the definition of assimilation.

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:smack:

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Halloween is fun and I have no problem celebrating it.

I even celebrate Thanksgiving by eating a Turkey. :D

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You must have a huge appetite.

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I dont eat it alone. I eat it with my family.

Although making a turkey is a pain in the behind. A lot work. Good thing I dont cook. :D

Please tum dono apni 13th birthday pe mujhay zaroor bulana.

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Yes - cant cook to save my life either. Happy turkey eating with family in advance!

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:omg:

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[mod] ok diwana and coughcough, please lets keep it clean and no snide jabs at each other. Thank you! [/mod]

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This makes no sense…one’s own lifestyle is the one they were born into or set for themselves. My lifestyle IS the one I live today…I didn’t assimilate into another culture.

:k:

My point exactly!

Okay so using all different definitions, even if we say its not assimilate, at minimum it's integrate. Integration is stronger with stronger and larger number of points of connections or in this context commonalities.

Not sure why such hoopla on adopting cultural practices in US, when clearly many cultural practices in Pakistan are also adopted.

In the end, it's live and let live. Different people have different perspectives and lifestyles. We can argue ad nauseous about who is correct or more correct, but its not that such stuff has even solved sectarian differences let alone can someone put on a batman mask on Halloween.

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Halloween is haram. aaho

:khumar:

Talk about beating a topic to death.

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Agree with the last bit but people have failed to recognize this simple fact by rejecting each others' opinions here. People who celebrate are considered bad muslims by some. People who don't like celebrating it are being considered as intolerant, foolish and ignorant.

Btw, if you were a desi girl you wouldn't be allowed to attend the Halloween party. :D