Halala

Lifestyle Relationships
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That is what my point is diamond321

One should have it inside, not let it be discussed with others to take any steps

Zina is totally not acceptable. But aaj kul ki dunya mein ye sochta kaun hai. Just to shed some light.... i stopped meeting a female coz she first got divorced and crying and stuff, then usi banday kay saath she spent 3 nights out. I was so angry and just could not accept the fact that they r no longer halaal for each other......

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^Dont stress with this Lady, Her insaan ka hisaab ushi ko dayna hoga, so you shouldnt even be bothered. You warned her she didnt listen its her fault. You dont even have to tell her that its her fault.

There are few people left in this world who take their life other wise, and have a peaceful merriage or try their level best to make it a peaceful merriage. =\

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One must remember that for the woman to enter into marriage with another man on the condition that he divorce her after consummating the marriage, is extremely disliked in Islam. This arrangement has been considered accursed in the Hadith, even though it will free the woman to marry her first husband again (Radd al-Muhtar 2:540/ Darse Tirmidhi Vol. 3 Pg. 399-401).

The Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: "Allah curses the one who marries to make a woman Halal for her husband, and the one for whom this is done (i.e. the first husband and the woman)" (Ahmad, Nasai, Tirmidhi).

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As far as I have heard....the Halala like you said is the woman marry another person, have conjugal relations, Then IF she gets divorced, THEN she can re-marry her ex hubby. I think religously you can't stage a halala that marry person X for 2 days then divorce and go back to the 1st husband. The lady has to get remarried and if my kismet gets divorced again THEN she can remarry hubby. I think it is such to punish the ex for giving divorce with harsh judgement or too quickly....otherwise why would he regret and want to go back?

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:omg:

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Yes.

She can ask for khula even on the basis of not liking her husband. (I have once quoted hadith on it)

Makes sense to give woman freedom of choice too.

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I know of a couple where the man divorced his wife in fit of rage and immediately regretted it. They went to multiple muftis and tried to find someone who would "okay" their reunion. But no such luck.

She never remarried but he remarried years later.

I think halala is there as a way to make a man really regret his actions if he gives talaq in haste. Its not just the woman that has to live with the consequences, he does too. If he divorces his wife in anger...he will regret it. No man would want to see his wife with another man. If he loves her deeply enough, he might be alright with a halala. But then emotionally live with the knowledge that she wasnt with him and him only.

If he doesnt go through the halala...at least she is rid of a man that can divorce her at whim and doesnt take marriage seriously.

I think its a matter of perspective.

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I have a question here..religious discussion would follow obviously. But different school of thoughts have different views of Talaaq in Islam. As in as far as I remember and from what I took, there is a certain time period between the three talaqs. Please correct me if I have heard wrong but some scholars are of opinion that saying talaaq 3 times constitutes just ONE talaaq. the husband and wife can still be together. The second one has a definite interval and after that they both have to get into a Nikkah again but after the third one, the talaaq becomes irreversible and the wife is no longer halaal for the husband.

So if somebody does give talaaq in momentary rage would that really be a proper divorce?

and as for Halaala, it is a terrible ordeal the woman has to go through and the guy suffers alot too. But the woman probably gets most traumatised by this. it affects lives of three people. Marrying someone else solely to be back with the ex-husband is inhuman !

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I think it needs some clarification.

The concept of halala is not proactive 'choice' after talaq has happened.

Meaning, the man is not given a choice of Halala at all to get her back.

Now this petty mch should sum up what is written in Quran about this situation. (Surah Al-Baqar Iyah 230)

It is merely a possibility of remarriage which is allowed and that would only be AFTER the woman get's divorce for a strong reason or she becomes a widower of second husband. And there is another if they stay in limit next time.

So if these two again have some intention to do hanky panky stuff, have some other motive to get remarried, then second marriage is not allowed.

Marrying/divorcing kind of 'bussiness' is not what Allah wanted people to do. Like what happens in Bazaare Husn.

Here is that Iyah:

If a husband [after revoking divorce twice in a marriage bond] divorces his wife [for the third time], he cannot marry her until she has wedded another man. But if this [second husband] also divorces her, it shall be no offence for either of them to return to each other, if they think that they can [now] keep within the limits set by Allah. Such are the bounds of Allah. He makes them plain to men who want to gain knowledge.(230)

In essence: There is no such thing as Halala as a choice in Islam.

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I always thought and read that doing a HALALA was supposed to be Haram, and the ONLY way an ex-wife and husband can get back together if the wife re-marries and her husband divorces her of his own free will or dies, and then she can go marry the ex. But no way is it allowed to work for 1,2,3 days or even months.
Allah knows the intentions in our hearts and He is alone to judge.

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most such "rules" and "guidelines" in Islam are meant to be a caution or word of warning that encourages you to remain steadfast on the 'right path'.

its like a deterrent rather than a consequence or punishment.

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the last three replies by diwana, mickey and muzna are right on the mark, a deterrant, to make people think and act properly.

its when people lose sight of what something was intended for do we come up with things like 'halala' or the great saudi cleric's recommendation on a methoid to establish a mehram relationship with colleagues in a coed school or work environment.

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So true.

It surprises me how almost every rule is to protect women.
Even halala thing is to give women another chance with another man.
I hear more then one example where women refuse to go back to first husband.
Because, obviously if he wasn't an abusive moron he would not have divorce.

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And to every one else,,, good going

kill, hump do what the F ever as long as you do say word allah before it.

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isnt that what we are doing in general as a society anyways?

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NO!!\

on sec thought its funny

"you have bad temper --- as punishment to you, and reward to your wife, wife gets a night "out" with her fav man" :D

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:hinna:

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What a thread :hayaa:

This stuffs for real right? :aq:

And people say i’m nutts… :smack:

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You hear wrong :)

when you say 'at least one night' this automatically falls into ..''mu'ta'' which straight out is Haram ..to begin with ..

conditions are alot strict than that ...

and when you say .. why is it even allowed .. i agree with you there .. its allowed because to fullfill all the conditions practially is next to impossible.

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so what is the definition of makrooha in this context?
I am keen to know