Re: Imam Ali (as) Saying: Taken from Peak of Eloquence
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if this was not the case then how come some hadith are not authentic
the mere fact that ALL hadith are not authentic implies that someone somewhere did fabricate ahadith
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Those that are not authentic WERE rejected, weren't they? And even when people tried to inject them into the hadith system, they were pulled and were rejected again.
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the whole concept of biography of hadith narraters was born out of this neccesaity
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And what do we find?
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i am not a historian by any means but this much i know that nothing in history 100 % sure if reported from one source alone ....its all about probablities
one incident reported from 3 different narraters from 3 different political inclinations is more likely to be true than one incident reported from 10 narraters from the same political group.
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Each man reporting the incident must be judged **individually **first before anything can be said or assumed about the incident itself.
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thats where the problem lies
if the compiler is of the opposite political group than the narrater then he will obviously classify that hadith as weak.
as far as compilation of hadith in Prophets time is concerned we only have historical references that point to that no text that was handed down by the Prophet
In that time it was not neccesary to write them as the sahaba who remembered them were alive.
Their was no need to even put Quran in the form of a text in those days] as so many qurra were there...
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Muslims of that time were much more tolerant and respectful of each other than later years and especially today. So, I don't buy this baseless assumption that since there were different "groups" *(again, how do we know for sure that there were infact different groups when knowledge of that assumption comes to us from hadithes we are trying to prove as false????) *that somehow that would keep people from telling the truth about practices of ISLAM or attribute something to Prophet which he never said.
I didn't say Prophet handed the books, PEOPLE/SAHABA wrote down what prophet uttered from his mouth.
Again, your argument is mostly based on assumption and not facts or logical thought. If there was no need to write down anything then why were major treaties written down instead of having all sahaba witness? Why we are told to write our affairs with each other so we may not forget?