Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
mera khyal ha amjad islam amjad ki nazmon se apki murad azad shayri/prose ha??
azad shayari prose to nahin hai.. There is adifference in Naseem Hijazi's heroine thinking loud and Amjad Islam Amjad's nazmen? nahi?
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
burai to main pehli line mai hi keh dia k nahi ha. Sassi baligh thi aur apni marzi krny ka haq rakhti thi :D mai to esy paiker ki mohabt ya ishq majazi manta hun. But the proponents of sufism say it is ishq e haqiqi. How can u justify that this share reflects ishq e haqiqi?
Sassi's love for Punhoo is ista'ara for human's love for God.
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
azad shayari prose to nahin hai.. There is adifference in Naseem Hijazi's heroine thinking loud and Amjad Islam Amjad's nazmen? nahi?
prose text bhi hoti ha aur azad shayri( to be sung) bhi hoti ha
han , amjad islam amjad ki nazmen azad shayri aur ghazal k bain bain lagti hain mujhe
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Ajaz bhai Kiya apko lagta hai sad poetry sirf unhe pasand pasand hoti hai Jo aesi situation se guzar chuke ho?
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
burai to main pehli line mai hi keh dia k nahi ha. Sassi baligh thi aur apni marzi krny ka haq rakhti thi :D mai to esy paiker ki mohabt ya ishq majazi manta hun. But the proponents of sufism say it is ishq e haqiqi. How can u justify that this share reflects ishq e haqiqi?
Hmmm, Maine suna hai ke ishqe haqeeqi tak pohanchne ke liye pehley ishqe mizaji se guzarna parta hai..
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Ajaz bhai Kiya apko lagta hai sad poetry sirf unhe pasand pasand hoti hai Jo aesi situation se guzar chuke ho?
bilkul aisa hi ha. Mera aik cousin zara mumy dady ha, ma ne aik dafa osy aik audio ghazal sunaee "mera dil kehta ha" aur wo aaj tak mujhe mazaq krta ha.
Ma koe bhi bat os se puchun k tumhen kesay pata ha wo mujhe keh daita ha "mera dil kehta ha" :D
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Sassi's love for Punhoo is ista'ara for human's love for God.
lekn aisi cheez ko hi kyon ista'ara leay jaye jo susceptble to misinterpretation/misguidance ho?
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Hmmm, Maine suna hai ke ishqe haqeeqi tak pohanchne ke liye pehley ishqe mizaji se guzarna parta hai..
ho skta ha.
lekn wo to ishaq e majazi ko mantay hi nahi, esi leay to eska nam majazi(ghair asal) ha
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
lekn aisi cheez ko hi kyon ista'ara leay jaye jo susceptble to misinterpretation/misguidance ho?
Sufiss had come down to the level of public. Public can relate to love with human. Even you can see the verses in Qurans which says which refer to comparison of human love with love for God and the prophet. Like a verse mean (tumhara eeman tab tak tak mukammal nahin ho sakta jab tak Khuda aur uska Rasool tumhe apne sare rishton se mehboob ho)... so baRi cheez tak pohunchne ke liye / le jane ke liye choti cheezon ka zikr karna paRta hai
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Ajaz bhai apki bat muje samjh Nahi aa rahi :(
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Ajaz bhai apki bat muje samjh Nahi aa rahi :(
konsi baat?
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Post # 88.
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Post # 88.
ajaz ka matlab hai ishq haqeeqi wale ishq e majazi ko mante hi nahin? unke liye ishq e haqeeqi sach hai baqi sab maya hai
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
ji bilkul yehi mere kehny ka matlb tha
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
ajaz ka matlab hai ishq haqeeqi wale ishq e majazi ko mante hi nahin? unke liye ishq e haqeeqi sach hai baqi sab maya hai
Wo to bad Ki bat hai na jab Banda ishq e haqeeqi tak pohche, Lekin pehley to Banda ishqe mizaji pe hota hai na? Kuch log ishqe mizaji se hurt hokay hi ishqe haqeeqi Ki raah pe qadam rakhte hain, aur kuch log jab ishqe mizaji karte hain to tab unko ahsas houta hai ke in mitti ke putlo se dil lagane ka faida Nahi kyu ke yeh bhi fani Mai bhi fani.
Tou in dono conditions Mai jab Banda ishqe haqeeqi tak pohanchta hai tab zahir hai ishqe mizaji ko Nahi manta hoga.
Per pehley jab Banda mere jesa aam insan houta tab to usay pata houta hai na ke ishqe mizaji bhi houta hai..
Getting me?
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
ji bilkul yehi mere kehny ka matlb tha
Kuch shair kisi Ki aankho pe Zulfou pe poetry likhte hain, is bare Mai apka Kiya kehna ha?
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
waah, 'ishq pe kia Khaama-farsaaii ho rahii hai! :) Kinzz you got a point there! :D
na Khudaa hii milaa, na visaal-e-sanam
na idhar ke hii rahe na udhar ke ham
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Wo to bad Ki bat hai na jab Banda ishq e haqeeqi tak pohche, Lekin pehley to Banda ishqe mizaji pe hota hai na? Kuch log ishqe mizaji se hurt hokay hi ishqe haqeeqi Ki raah pe qadam rakhte hain, aur kuch log jab ishqe mizaji karte hain to tab unko ahsas houta hai ke in mitti ke putlo se dil lagane ka faida Nahi kyu ke yeh bhi fani Mai bhi fani. Tou in dono conditions Mai jab Banda ishqe haqeeqi tak pohanchta hai tab zahir hai ishqe mizaji ko Nahi manta hoga. Per pehley jab Banda mere jesa aam insan houta tab to usay pata houta hai na ke ishqe mizaji bhi houta hai..
Getting me?
ye to burai se taaeb ho kar naiki k tarf janay wali analogy ha?? Agr asia ha to phr ma apna arguement daita hun
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
Kuch shair kisi Ki aankho pe Zulfou pe poetry likhte hain, is bare Mai apka Kiya kehna ha?
mushkil question ha :D
en dono naqoosh k qadray muhazhab poetry mai asani se naqsha khencha ja skta ha.
wesay bohat hi kam log hotay ha jin k ankhen different hoti hain. Ankhen khoobsoorat honay wali bat ma nahi manta, mujhe to sab ki ankhen aik jesi lagti han :D
zulfon k leay sunsilk hai na :D
haqeeqi zindgi main log chehray k baqi 2 naqoosh ko zayada importance daitay hain.
Agr ap islamic point of view se puch rahi hain to mere wiew point se haqeeqat nahi badlay gi :)
Re: Guest of the Week - ajazali
mushkil question ha :D en dono naqoosh k qadray muhazhab poetry mai asani se naqsha khencha ja skta ha. wesay bohat hi kam log hotay ha jin k ankhen different hoti hain. Ankhen khoobsoorat honay wali bat ma nahi manta, mujhe to sab ki ankhen aik jesi lagti han :D zulfon k leay sunsilk hai na :D haqeeqi zindgi main log chehray k baqi 2 naqoosh ko zayada importance daitay hain. Agr ap islamic point of view se puch rahi hain to mere wiew point se haqeeqat nahi badlay gi :)
kia aap samajhte hain ke aaj ki shayari aaj ke masa'il ko portray karne main kamyab hai? kia aisa nahin lagta ke shayar abhi tak haseen chehron, udaas shamon ke bun main hi bhatak rahe hain