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Greg Chappel is getting a taste of Desi Politics. He must be ruing the day he accepted the offer to coach India. I am sure he would be glad to swap places with Tom Moody now.

Apparently Greg Chappel asked for Gangu’s head in an email to BCCI. I fully support Chappel. Any sane person who knows a thing or two about cricket can tell that Gangu just does not deserve to be in the team…not to mention at the expense on an in-form player like Kaif.

Watch his pain-staking century against the Zimbabweans and you would think that India was playing Australia…KICK GANGU FOR GOOD.

Chappell e-mails to BCCI: Sack Ganguly

NEW DELHI: The Ganguly-Chappell tiff has now reached a new low. A Kolkata based vernacular daily has reported that Chappell has sent an e-mail to the top BCCI officials stating that Ganguly must go.

The Aussie coach has given several reasons for Ganguly’s exit chief among them being the captain is not physically fit to be the captain of the team. The coach also states that Ganguly has been creating divisions in the team to keep his crown and often feigns injury.

Chappell says in his mail that Ganguly doesn’t take practice seriously and his apparent injury scare during India’s practice game at Bulawayo just before the first Test when the captain retired due to pain in his arm was all made up by him given the fact he refused to go for a scan and came out to bat later.

The Aussie coach writes further that if India has to do well in the next World Cup in 2007 in West Indies Ganguly must be done away with and a new captain chosen in his place as soon as possible.

A Kolkata based vernacular daily has reported that Chappell has sent an e-mail to top BCCI officials stating that Ganguly must go.

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Man this will turn out to be the crack in otherwise a very united team full of professionals. I think Gangz should step down for six months or so and come back with good form. Else, stay home, you have earned tens of millions for the rest of your life.

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I for one was a fan of Ganguly. In full flow the guy was a treat to watch. Over 10 k runs in ODI's is no mean feat and establishing himself as a super star in Indian batting line up when it included Tendulkar in prime form is a great great accomplishment. He use to be able to hammer any bowling attack in the world. But now I do agree, enough is enough. For the benefit of the team "Dada" has to go, but the thing is he should realize that and do it himself. As far as Indians supporters are concerned they should atleast show a little more respect for the guy, he is a hero. Practically a living legend. I agree his time is up now but for a while now people have been saying/writing all the wrongs things about him. Ganguly should be given more chances but not be the captain of the side any more. The captain should be an automatic selection in the team. Unfortunatly for Ganguly he is no longer an automatic selection in either the test or the ODI side. He can stay with the team for a while, help Dravid as a senior member of the side and see if he can regain his form. If not make room for a youngster so his team can prepare better for the 2007 world cup.

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Exactly my thought … i watched Gangu’s recent 100 against Zim and believe me this guy is nowhere near his form/prime … and he thought after his 100 everyone would question Chappels remarks but infact he shot himself in the foot with that … Chappel will learn a thing or two about Desi mentality + politics … it’s a sad matter but better it’s sorted out that early in Chappels coaching days for India than later … I sincerely hope BCCI gets its act together and works towards a better Team India under Dravids leadership than saving Gangu’s A$$ … Dravid is the only choice they’ve and i think it’s best … this Guy is Honest, sincere, works hard and a real gentleman in a sport where u very few of them … I hope Chappel + Dravid combination wins the vote of BCCI so India may get able to kick ENG A$$ if we (Pakistan) fail to do so … it would be a treat to watch

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ditto

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It's a surprise Chappel sent that email after that public truce. Maybe BCCI asked him for his honest assessment and he replied.

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One should not forget the role of te BCCI in all this. How can a confidential email from the coach to the board President get leaked out to the media. Something obviously fishy here.

This does not augur well for Chappel's trust in the board now. Feel sorry for him. In Australia, you have people asking for Ponting's head after one bad tour (A player like Damien Martyn has already been dropped)....and here we have Gangu...out of form for more than 2 years and he still thinks he deserves a place in the team.

Bottomline : KICK GANGU OUT !!

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I was reading one statement by former BCCI President Raj Singh Dungarpur which made a lot of sense.

He says that Ganguly's comments about Chappel are not just uncalled for but also disrespectful for a man of Chappel's stature. Gangu should shed the illusion that by virtue of being India's captain , he can dictate terms to Chappel. Greg Chappel is a cricketing icon in his own right. Ganguly is just a small fry compared to Chappel.

I find the following statement from Gangu about Chappel particularly immature :
*"You can imagine the character of a person who within hours of a truce goes and writes such an e-mail." *

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well I do agree with Gangu. Chappel and Gangu made a truce and hours after that Chappel writes an email to the board asking to kick him out. Thats just decieving captain. If Chappel is so intent on getting gangu kicked out then why did he make the truce in the first place if he knew he wasnt gonna keep it. Thats just wrong.

On the other hand...you gotta feel for Chappel too...he wants the best for the Indian team and with Gangu in the side for an in-form player like Kaif...its just destroying the future of the team. Gangu shud understand this is the end of his career and he shud retire with dignity rather than getting booted from the everyone in the Indian team.

Its a mess right now...I hope it clears up soon.

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N&S!

This is actually a good development - all professional teams develop a high degree of respect for the coach; In India, super star players have ruled the roost and because of the star power, and its own internal issues, the board has not done anything about it.

Now a person of Greg Chappel's stature (remember Chappel is a legend even amongst Indian fans over 35 or so) is correctly asserting the role and that can only be good. The individual but erratic talent within the Indian batting is amazing, and even though the bowling is below par, the batting potential is of such quality that it can overcome the bowling weakness. But that takes a degree of disciplined execution that only a strong coach can instil.

Ganguly may have been a good team leader but we need a coach now more than a team leader.

Good luck Chappel!

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This is just a symptom of a chronic disease that affects not only asian cricket but of late, includes west indian cricket as well.

When the system is rotten to the core, it takes courage or stupidity to make these issues public. I am glad chappell has chosen to confront these issues unlike wright who chose to work with the system. He has nothing to lose, indian cricket will be the loser, but the fools will not even realise that.

Here is a great article by Sambit Bal on cricinfo on this:

The night before the members of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) brace themselves for another fight to retain or acquire control over the most lucrative game in the country, a confidential letter written by the Indian coach to the board president finds its way to a local newspaper in Kolkata. Portions of the content are sensational: the coach has said in no uncertain terms that the captain isn't fit to hold a place in the team, let alone lead it. The story is certain to dominate the headlines in the newspapers next day. Coincidence? Or a cynical ploy to divert attention from the sordid goings-on? Draw your own conclusions.

But even if we were to accept that the leak was merely routine, it is impossible not to be aghast by the impropriety of it. To say Greg Chappell should have known better is cynical at the best and a shameful abdication of moral values at the worst. First, the captain finds an opportune moment to make public a private conversation between him and the coach. And then a sensitive confidential letter written to the board president is made available to the media. As betrayal of trust, this must rank pretty low. Can we blame Tom Moody for saying a quiet prayer of thanks that he didn't get the job that Chappell did.

Sourav Ganguly, if he believed he commanded a place in the team, can't be faulted for feeling incensed at the suggestion from the man appointed to help him with his job that he didn't belong. He would have been within his rights to rail and remonstrate, and indeed take up the matter strongly with the board. Yet he felt compelled and emboldened by a century against the softest bowling attack in the world cricket to let the world know that his feat was achieved against great odds. God knows what was he trying to achieve? Gain public sympathy? Turn the tables on Chappell? Precipitate action from the board?

There are those who believe Chappell exceeded his brief. And that he failed to work within the system. But what was his brief? It was a brief that he wrote for himself, and the one that got him the job: a vision statement that made it clear that he was looking to build a team for the future, a team that was fit in body and mind, a team with an ambition to win. Should he be crucified for being true to his belief, and showing the courage to stand up for it? It is no secret that Ganguly backed Chappell for the job. What could Chappell possibly gain from antagonising him? And what can Indian cricket gain from Chappell being obsequious towards Ganguly?

Of course, little of this will matter to men for whom Indian cricket is a ticket to power and fame. And that's putting it the best possible way. As the sham carried out in Kolkata over the last two days has underlined once again, the welfare of cricket is generally the last item on the agenda, if it is there at all, when BCCI's powerbrokers meet to stake their claim to the booty.

That the BCCI elections are a farce has been no secret. What is an election where there is no deadline for nominations and worse, no voter list? But thanks to the ever present and prying eye of the television camera, this ridiculous charade is now played out in the public. Honesty can rarely exist without independence, and since every office bearer in the Indian board depends on a few others to cling on to his position, every major decision taken by the board is motivated by reasons beyond cricket. Indian selectors, despite their best intentions in some cases, are hostage to their zonal politics while picking the team, and are literally at the mercy of the higher powers in the matter of choosing the captain.

It's a vicious cycle. The system is rotten to the core, but who can reform the system but the system itself? Much was expected from Jagmohan Dalmiya in his second stint as the board president. He was possibly the only man with the clout and the skills of manoeuvre, but alas, not the will or vision, to lead Indian cricket out of the cesspool. To liberate Indian cricket, he would have to let go of it himself. Events in the last two years have shown that it's beyond him. Indian cricket must await its deliverer.

Meanwhile, power-broking will continue. Compromises will be made, deals will be struck, quid pro quos will emerge, and yesterday's rivals will pose happily for pictures claiming friendship. That's the rule of power politics. Nobody believes in anything, nobody stands for anything.

Now, would Indian cricket be better served by a coach who became a part of this system? Is Greg Chappell the wrong man for Indian cricket? Or is Indian cricket the wrong place for Greg Chappell?

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Chappel has what John Wrigt did not. The ability to assert himself and not take any BS. He is the man Indian cricket needs to make radical changes (not just politically correct ones).

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i think,ganguly should be kick out....but there 1 problem tht there is no one who can captain india well especially in difficult conditions....rahul dravid is not a suitable for me atleast...i think they should look for sehwag as i think tht guy has some good cricketing mind and also he is young...so he can lead india for many years...
ganguly is an insane bengali and thinks himself as bengal tiger...he is not even street dog

Full Text of Greg Chappel's Email - Very Interesting Read !!

Chappell's e-mail to the BCCI chief

Due to comments made by Mr Sourav Ganguly during the press conference following his innings in the recently completed Test match in Bulawayo and the subsequent media speculation I would like to make my position clear on two points.

  1. At no stage did I ask Mr Ganguly to step down from the captaincy of the Indian team and;

  2. At no stage have I threatened to resign my position as Indian team coach.

Mr Ganguly came to me following the recently completed tri-series of one-day matches here in Zimbabwe and asked me to tell him honestly where he stood as a player in my view. I told him that I thought he was struggling as a player and that it was affecting his ability to lead the team effectively and that the pressure of captaincy was affecting his ability to play to his potential. I also told him that his state of mind was fragile and it showed in the way that he made decisions on and off the field in relation to the team, especially team selection. A number of times during the tri-series the tour selectors had chosen a team and announced it to the group only for Sourav to change his mind on the morning of the game and want to change the team.

On at least one occasion he did change the team and on the morning of the final I had to talk him out of making another last-minute change that I believe would have destroyed team morale and damaged the mental state of the individuals concerned. I also told Sourav that his nervous state was affecting the team in other ways as he was prone to panic during pressure situations in games and that his nervous demeanour was putting undue pressure on the rest of the team. His nervous pacing of the rooms during our batting in the final plus his desire to change the batting order during our innings in the final had also contributed to nervousness in the players waiting to go in to bat. His reluctance to bat first in games I suggested was also giving wrong signals to the team and the opposition and his nervousness at the crease facing bowlers like Shane Bond from NZ was also affecting morale in the dressing room.

Also read: Prem's blog
On the basis of this and other observations and comments from players in the squad about the unsettling effect Sourav was having on the group I suggested to Sourav that he should consider stepping down from the captaincy at the end of the tour in the interests of the team and in his own best interests if he wanted to prolong his playing career. I told him of my own experiences toward the end of my career and cited other players such as Border, Taylor and Steve Waugh, all of whom struggled with batting form toward the end of their tenure as Australian captain.

We discussed other issues in relation to captaincy and the time and effort it took that was eating into his mental reserves and making it difficult to prepare properly for batting in games. He commented that he had enjoyed being free of those responsibilities in the time that he was in Sri Lanka following his ban from international cricket and that he would consider my suggestion.

I also raised the matter of selection for the first Test with Sourav and asked him where he thought he should bat. He said 'number 5'. I told him that he might like to consider opening in the Test as the middle order was going to be a tight battle with Kaif and Yuvraj demanding selection. Sourav asked me if I was serious. I said it was something to be considered, but it had to be his decision.

The following day Sourav batted in the match against Zimbabwe 'A' team in the game in Mutare. I am not sure of the exact timing of events because I was in the nets with other players when Sourav went in to bat, but the new ball had either just been taken or was imminent when I saw Sourav walking from the field holding his right arm. I assumed he had been hit and made my way to the players' area where Sourav was receiving treatment from the team physiotherapist, John Gloster.

When I enquired as to what had happened Sourav said he had felt a click in his elbow as he played a ball through the leg side and that he thought he should have it investigated. Sourav had complained of pain to his elbow at various stages of the one-day series, but he had resisted having any comprehensive investigation done and, from my observation, had been spasmodic in his treatment habits, often not using ice-packs for the arm that had been prepared for him by John Gloster. I suggested, as had John Gloster, that we get some further tests done immediately. Sourav rejected these suggestions and said he would be 'fine'. When I queried what he meant by 'fine' he said he would be fit for the Test match. I then queried why then was it necessary to be off the field now. He said that he was just taking 'precautions'.

Rather than make a scene with other players and officials in the vicinity I decided to leave the matter and observe what Sourav would do from that point on. After the loss of Kaif, Yuvraj and Karthik to the new ball, Sourav returned to the crease with the ball now around 20 overs old. He struggled for runs against a modest attack and eventually threw his wicket away trying to hit one of the spinners over the leg side.

The next day I enquired with a number of the players as to what they had thought of Sourav's retirement. The universal response was that it was 'just Sourav' as they recounted a list of times when Sourav had suffered from mystery injuries that usually disappeared as quickly as they had come. This disturbed me because it confirmed for me that he was in a fragile state of mind and it was affecting the mental state of other members of the squad.

**When we arrived in Bulawayo I decided I needed to ask Sourav if he had over-played the injury to avoid the danger period of the new ball as it had appeared to me and others within the touring party that he had protected himself at the expense of others. **He denied the suggestion and asked why he would do that against such a modest attack. I said that he was the only one who could answer that question.

I was so concerned about the affect that Sourav's actions were having on the team that I decided I could not wait until selection meeting that evening to inform him that I had serious doubts about picking him for the first Test.

I explained that, in my view, I felt we had to pick Kaif and Yuvraj following their good form in the one-day series and that Sehwag, Gambhir, Laxman and Dravid had to play. He said that his record was better than Kaif and Yuvraj and that they had not proved themselves in Test cricket. I countered with the argument that they had to be given a chance to prove themselves on a consistent basis or we would never know. I also said that their form demanded that they be selected now.

Sourav asked me whether I thought he should be captain of the team. I said that I had serious doubts that he was in the right frame of mind to do it. He asked me if I thought he should step down. I said that it was not my decision to make, that only he could make that decision, but if he did make that decision he had to do it in the right manner or it would have even more detrimental effects than if he didn't stand down. I said that now was not the time to make the decision but that we should discuss it at the selection meeting to be held later in the day.

Sourav then said that if I didn't want him to be captain that he would inform Rahul Dravid that was going to stand down. I reiterated that it was not my decision to make but he should give it due consideration under the circumstances but not to do it hastily. At that point Sourav went to Rahul and the two of them conferred briefly and then Sourav left the field and entered the dressing room. At that stage I joined the start of the training session.

A short time later Mr Chowdhary came on to the field and informed me that Sourav had told him that I did not want him as captain and that Sourav wanted to leave Zimbabwe immediately if he wasn't playing. I then joined Mr Chowdhary and Rahul Dravid in the dressing room where we agreed that this was not the outcome that any of us wanted and that the ramifications would not be in the best interests of the team.

We then spent some time with Sourav and eventually convinced him that he should stay on as captain for the two Tests and then consider his future. In my view it was not an ideal solution but it was better than the alternative of him leaving on a bad note. I believe he has earned the right to leave in a fitting manner. We all agreed that this was a matter that should stay between us and should not, under any circumstances, be discussed with the media.

The matter remained quiet until the press conference after the game when a journalist asked Sourav if he had been asked to step down before the Test. Sourav replied that he had but he did not want to elaborate and make an issue of it. I was then called to the press conference where I was asked if I knew anything of Sourav being asked to step down before the game. I replied that a number of issues had been raised regarding selection but as they were selection matters I did not wish to make any further comment.

Apart from a brief interview on ESPN before which I emphasized that I did not wish to discuss the issue because it was a selection matter I have resisted all other media approaches on the matter.

Since then various reports have surfaced that I had threatened to resign. I do not know where that rumour has come from because I have spoken to no one in regard to this because I have no intention of resigning. I assume that some sections of the media, being starved of information, have made up their own stories.

At the completion of the Test match I was approached by VVS Laxman with a complaint that Sourav had approached him on the eve of the Test saying that I had told Sourav that I did not want Laxman in the team for Test matches. I denied that I had made such a remark to Sourav, or anybody else for that matter, as, on the contrary, I saw Laxman as an integral part of the team. He asked how Sourav could have said what he did. I said that the only way we could go to the bottom of the matter was to speak to Sourav and have him repeat the allegation in front of me.

I arranged for a meeting with the two of them that afternoon. The meeting took place just after 6pm in my room at the Rainbow Hotel in Bulawayo. I told Sourav that Laxman had come to me complaining that Sourav had made some comments to Laxman prior to the Test. I asked Sourav if he would care to repeat the comment in my presence. Sourav then rambled on about how I had told him that I did not see a place for Laxman in one-day cricket, something that I had discussed with Sourav and the selection panel and about which I had spoken to Laxman at the end of the Sri Lankan tour.

Sourav mentioned nothing about the alleged conversation regarding Laxman and Test cricket even when I pushed him on it later in the discussion. As we had to leave for a team function we ended the conversation without Sourav adequately explaining his comments to Laxman.

Again, this is not an isolated incident because I have had other players come to me regarding comments that Sourav had made to them that purports to be comments from me to Sourav about the particular player. In each case the comments that Sourav has passed on to the individual are figments of Sourav's imagination. One can only assume that he does it to unnerve the individual who, in each case, has been a middle order batsman.

Sourav has missed the point of my discussions with him on this matter. It has less to do with his form than it does with his attitude toward the team. Everything he does is designed to maximise his chance of success and is usually detrimental to someone else's chances.

Despite meeting with him in Mumbai after his appointment as captain and speaking with him about these matters and his reluctance to do the preparation and training that is expected of everyone else in the squad he continues to set a bad example.

Greg King's training reports continue to show Sourav as the person who does the least fitness and training work based on the criterion that has been developed by the support staff to monitor the work load of all the players.

We have also developed parameters of batting, bowling, fielding and captaincy that we believe embodies the 'Commitment to Excellence' theme that I espoused at my interview and Sourav falls well below the acceptable level in all areas. I will be pleased to present this documentation when I meet with the special committee in Mumbai later this month.

I can assure you sir that all my actions in this matter, and all others since my appointment, have been with the aim of improving the team performance toward developing a team that will represent India with distinctions in Test match and one-day cricket.

As I said to you during our meeting in Colombo, I have serious reservations about the attitude of some players and about Sourav and his ability to take this team to a new high, and none of the things he has done since his reappointment has caused me to change my view. In fact, it has only served to confirm that it is time for him to move on and let someone else build their team toward the 2007 World Cup.

**This team has been made to be fearful and distrusting by the rumour mongering and deceit that is Sourav's modus operandi of divide and rule. **Certain players have been treated with favour, all of them bowlers, while others have been shunted up and down the order or left out of the team to suit Sourav's whims.

John Wright obviously allowed this to go on to the detriment of the team. I am not prepared to sit back and allow this to continue or we will get the same results we have been seeing for some time now.

It is time that all players were treated with fairness and equity and that good behaviours and attitudes are rewarded at the selection table rather than punished.

I can assure you of my very best intentions.

Yours sincerely,

Greg Chappell

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Where did you get this from man?

This is sad to read all this. I think both Greg and Saruv should have dealt with some extra care as this team has lots of hot headed guys already, some are thinking of them as future captains.

Greg should have wait until the return to India and should have brought it infront of the board athourities regarding Saruv's commitment and captaincy issues. If he is setting a bad example for the team mates the board should talk to Saruv. On the other hand Saruv should have showed some maturity and refrain from lobbying within the team to save himself.

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^^
It’s on cricinfo

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/story/220105.html

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Ouch... well i hope he does get the kick, but not before the pakistan tour :D

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I am amazed how a supposedly private, confidential EMAIL can be leaked. Does the Board President share his email password with others (that is assuming that he knows how to use the computer which I doubt).

And also it seems the big--mouth Harbhajan Singh has also jumped into the ring....apparently he has accused Greg Chappel of creating disunity in the team and he has showered praise on Gangu's motivational skills..... Gangu's DIVIDE AND RULE strategy showing results here.

My personal opinion is that any player who washes the team's dirty linen in public should be kicked out for good....also the Board President should be held accountable for leaking the confidential email to the media.

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BCCI has issued a statment telling the players, trainers and officials involved not to give any public statements. I agree with that, Harbhajan should keep his big mouth closed, no need to display the dirty laundry in public. The situation is bad as is no nned to further fuel it. I think Ganguly should be sacked as the captain but not in a humiliating way, the guy has given a lot to Indian cricket and deserves to be treated with respect. Maybe he can accompny the team as a player to see if he regaians his form. But the only problem with that would be his influence on some other players and the overall atmoshphere of the Indian dressing room. So in that sense I guess it's time to Ganguly to go, he can go ahead and take it on the chin and admit he does not deserve a place in the team or he can hang on for a couple of more series and if he fails to produce he would be kicked out eventualy anyway.

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seeing the Gangs episode (and others previously) I am perplexed why desi players dont take the message and retire gracefully? they are always booted out of the team ..none of them quit while at top(barring Gavaskar and Imran Khan) even now Gangs can sense the public sentiment , his form and team management are all against him - so why cant he take a backseat and retire peacefully?