Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
nikema.. no im a very fun guy.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
At this time in Australia - Two people are having a drink together in a bar - Greg Chappel and Dave Whatmore.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
Wait til Ian Chappel writes about this. He spits venom in his sarcasm over BCCI. He is gonna have a field day.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
I feel that the Coach Selection process should not be a public affair. I mean here you are dealing with people whose credentials (good or bad) are already well-known.......and calling them publicly for an interview etc is BS in my opinion.....making the whole thing public just gives the media a field day and affects the professional reputation and future career of the candidates (Whatmore, Emburey, Ford etc).
Re: Graham Ford to be India’s next coach
But i still don’t get it … why the heck do u prepare a Presentation and travel several thousand KMs just to turn down the Job u actually went for ???
I guess (only a guess) he might have asked to inject some fresh blood at the expense of Tendulkar, Ganguly and maybe Kumble anytime coming soon … And BCCI probably not having the balls to enforce his views on the Team rather asked him to first start his Stint and they may then think about it
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
Wait til Ian Chappel writes about this. He spits venom in his sarcasm over BCCI. He is gonna have a field day.
I am already waiting for his new piece on cricinfo:D
He in his last one on cricinfo hinted that Indians are becoming obsessed with having a coach and are over hyping the issue.
It could well be that senior players want to have a scapegoat available at all times. The purpose of that scapegoat is to blame everything on him in case of an important series defeat and by doing so they will be able to keep the media's and people's attention away from their own questionable abilities. They know that there are always senior ex cricketers who need to have some kindaa material to keep writing about in their columns to make some bucks and these Ex cricketers would ruthar talk about Chappell's inability to coach indian players ruthar than talk about Sehwag's, sachin's, dhoni's inabilities.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
It's hard to believe that Kent was able to match the offer made to Ford by BCCI. It is highly likely that it was something during the meeting in India which made him change his mind. Probably some of his suggestions were turned down which were sufficient to raise red flags OR some of the BCCI's stipulations (not monetary) were simply unacceptable for Ford.
Re: Graham Ford to be India’s next coach
embarrassment, embarrassment and more embarrassment for BCCI…why do everything in sub-continent has to go through a drama…
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/297710.html
The hunt for India’s coach
Another day, another crisis
Dileep Premachandran
June 11, 2007
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With Ford out of the picture, will the board turn to Emburey? © Getty Images
Another day, another crisis, and as you were for the BCCI. Just two days ago, the seven-man committee empowered with choosing India’s next cricket coach assumed that they had got their man. Graham Ford had flown down to Chennai - along with John Emburey, a dummy candidate in all but name - and his presentation had convinced the wise men to offer him a one-year contract.
On the face of it, the BCCI and the Indian players, Rahul Dravid in particular, would have cause to feel let down because, according to information available to Cricinfo, Ford had almost accepted the job. It was merely a question of when and not if. He was aware that the offer was for one year, with a provision for a two-year extension, and that he would have to work with existing support staff that included Venkatesh Prasad and Robin Singh.
Somewhere along the line, he changed his mind. Several conjectures have been made as to why he did so; the briefness of the tenure, maybe, or he was unhappy with what he saw. Personal reasons have also been mentioned. His wife, Liz, has battled cancer for several years and it’s understandable if he had second thoughts about taking on the stresses and strains of a job in the subcontinent.
But it certainly does not absolve the BCCI of its responsibility. The fiasco has merely highlighted the board’s ineptitude in finding the right man for the job. India were sent packing from the World Cup long before the April-fool jokes were sent out, yet no serious attempt was made to draw up a shortlist of replacements for Greg Chappell.
Even as Ravi Shastri was appointed caretaker coach for the tour of Bangladesh, the whispers behind the scenes kept throwing up one name - Dav Whatmore. In addition to an impressive resume, Whatmore had revealed his interest in the job and, when certain top BCCI officials spoke to him in Dhaka, it appeared a done deal.
When it comes to Indian cricket, though, you should never believe what you see or read. Yesterday’s flavour became today’s bitter aftertaste as Whatmore’s name was cut from the list of probables a week ago. Influential folk within the team, and on the seven-man committee appointed to choose the coach, were said to be against him and it was thus that Ford moved into pole position.
What followed illustrated just how low Indian cricket’s stock has fallen. To create the illusion of a contest for a job that had once interested so many, the board roped in Emburey, a man with no coaching credentials to speak of. If anything, it was a slap in the face of the homegrown candidates. Had there been a viable second option - Tom Moody and Desmond Haynes were in contention when Chappell got the job - the BCCI could have turned to him after Ford’s rebuff.
By not advertising for the post or sending out feelers as soon as Chappell left for Australia, the board seriously overestimated its own hand. The promise of a big fat payday may lure those more mercenary but a top-level coach requires all sorts of assurances before taking up a job of such magnitude. Freedom to choose one’s own support staff and the autonomy to chart out a long-term plan - in consultation with the captain - are of paramount importance to the best in the business, as is involvement at some level in team selection.
It’s also worth noting that the last two Indian coaches were chosen by the players. Rahul Dravid was instrumental in John Wright’s arrival from Kent, and Sourav Ganguly played a pivotal role in Chappell being appointed. It’s no secret that the move to bring in Ford also had the blessing of the team’s seniors. Whether that’s a healthy trend is debatable, since part of the coach’s job description undoubtedly involves tough love when the team is going astray.
What are the options now? As Sunil Gavaskar, one of the members on the committee that offered Ford the job, has said, the board is back where it started. Squads will be selected on Tuesday to tour Ireland and England and there is no time to find a coach to accompany the team. Will they find one before more serious business, India’s Test series against England, begins?
For a start, do they even know where to look? This is an embarrassment that the BCCI has brought upon itself.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
Maybe he wanted more than a year's contract.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
Maybe he wanted more than a year's contract.
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Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
^ or maybe he was just signalling to Pakistan that he is ready to move to a South Asian country by interviewing with India.
mere conjecture, ofcourse.
Yeah, to die later.
Possibly from a heart attack; mere conjecture, ofcourse.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
I feel that the Coach Selection process should not be a public affair. I mean here you are dealing with people whose credentials (good or bad) are already well-known.......and calling them publicly for an interview etc is BS in my opinion.....making the whole thing public just gives the media a field day and affects the professional reputation and future career of the candidates (Whatmore, Emburey, Ford etc).
In addition to the views that picking a coach process should be held behind close doors, Miandad and Alam had also stated in their opinions that a coach should be picked 'internally'. I suppose that's where you and these two part ways.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach
Yeah, to die later.
Possibly from a heart attack; mere conjecture, ofcourse.
yaar using the death of someone to score points is low. so i wont engage that point.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach/Ford turned down the offer to coach India
According to NDTV (quoting the ever-reliable "sources"), reasons for Ford's bailing act included:
- disappointment over the BCCI's unprofessional attitude (the 30-minute delay to the presentation apparently didnt go down too well with him)
- antagonistic attitude of the ex-cricketers on the panel (Gavaskar, Shastri and Venkat)
- not being allowed to bring in his own support staff
- the one year term limit
- gag order on talking to the press
After all of BCCI's behind-the-scenes carping about Whatmore's "lack of professionalism", how ironic that they get skewered on the same sword !
Everything now points to a desi coach (Shastri has apparently declined a second term :-)) at least for the England series. Gavaskar will no doubt do his bit for bro-in-law Vishy. Maybe Vishy'll refuse the job too, ha ha !
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach/Ford turned down the offer to coach India
BCCI people have handled it very ineptly. PCB ko peechay chor diya mashaAllah se.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach/Ford turned down the offer to coach India
^ kia karayn, muqabla (inept/incompetency) sakht hai
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach/Ford turned down the offer to coach India
Looks like its going to be Borde as manager for the England tour. Actually, not a bad choice from where things stand right now.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach/Ford turned down the offer to coach India
Actually giving Ford 1-yr term is ridiculous.
How can he be asked to show results within one year - while players like Agarkar get more than 12 years - but I digress.
Re: Graham Ford to be India's next coach/Ford turned down the offer to coach India
Actually giving Ford 1-yr term is ridiculous. How can he be asked to show results within one year - while players like Agarkar get more than 12 years - but I digress.
Wouldnt underestimate the role of Gavaskar in this whole affair. Given how opposed he was to the foreign coach idea, not beyond him to have tried to scuttle the whole thing - since direct approach didnt work, at least indirectly through the inclusion of irritant clauses like the one-year limit, no support staff, gag order, etc.
One silver lining in this whole mess has been the egg on BCCI's face. But too much to hope that they will learn any lessons from this.
Rahi baat Agarkar ki, I've always believe he has some compromising photos in his possession - no other explanation.
Re: Graham Ford to be India’s next coach/Ford turned down the offer to coach India
hmmmm Pawar, Gavaskar or any other …