Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

This is a warning for Pakistani politicians. You cant be secular or moderate or liberal in your outlook and Minorities cannot be pampered in Pakistan.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

You are wrong. It is nothing to do with being religious, secular, moderate, or liberal. What is happening in Pakistan is Jahalat (ignorance) and those who are doing all these atrocities are children of Shaitan doing their best to malign Islam, Prophet (SAW) and Pakistan. Here is what Quran says, blasphemy law, and actions of Kharjees in Pakistan:

Pakistan blasphemy law completely negates Quran where Allah tells Muslims that ‘Allah has not made them to watch over doings of others (and that includes whatever they do or say)’ ... Plus, Allah tells Muslims that what people (Muslims and non-Muslims) do is Allah’s plan that is nothing to do with any individuals to judge or become responsible.

Further (in 6:108), Allah clarifies that he has made all his creations alluring what they believe/do and thus stopped Muslims to even revile (condemn) what others are worship or practice in the name of religion.

Quran 6:107-108
YUSUFALI: If it had been Allah's plan, they would not have taken false gods: but We made thee not one to watch over their doings, nor art thou set over them to dispose of their affairs.

YUSUFALI: Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

Among all this we are forgetting bibi asia masih. i doubt any political leader will come out in her support now. she is condemned to death before her further trial. no judge will have guts to release her even if she is found not guilty.

poor lady.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

Ravage, Med: What coin is saying is that law itself is not responsible for the death of Salman Taseer, its the extremism in one's mind for this law which is responsible for the murder.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

an act of violence carried out in the name of the..erm... Religion of Peace

The only good thing about this is that the sentiment of death will only help in reforming the medieval Blasphemy Laws in Pakistan.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

Very sad event.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

Well...I think...its not the right idea to speak against the law...especially the sensitive one like the blasphemy law by a person in position as Governor of Punjab...

The blasphemy law was passed by the national assembly of Pakistan and should be discussed there and not on the roads or in cars...sounds civilized?

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

I never was a fan of Mr Taseer, I have few kind words for any Pakistani politician however heres my take on things.

Mr Taseer did not deserve to be killed, even if he did slander the prophet so long as he did not do so publicly and with intent to harm others (from what I gather if he did do any tauheen he did so in private and that is between him and Allah and his beloved) Mr Taseer was not wise in taking the stands he did.... which naturally made him very unpopular.

However he did not deserve to die unless he had taken the life of another person, furthermore he was not killed by some wild eyed fanatic in robes the typical image of a zealot... he was killed by his own guard and that is betrayal.

I dont think Mr Taseer was a martyr nor do I think his killer is a hero... if anything he should be executed for treason having killed the man he swore to protect.

But this is a lesson for many and goes to show what levels that people will stoop to to get thier way.

As a Muslim I am not going to support this murder or claim it to be some divine retribution... becuase it was murder.

However we need to really consider curbing the powers of the Far right and Far left in Pakistan there needs to be some middle ground... it's time both the Secularists and the Mullait are both driven to the fringes and a time when all pakistani people must stand together.

I believe that honour is a concept that could be introduced to politics... becuase it's about time everyone learned some respect for pne another.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

When will the nation stop benefitting from the glorious fruits of General Zia (may he rot in hell)....

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

Inna Lillahi wa Inna Ilahi Rajioon!

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

The law creates this extremism mera bhai. If this law didnt exist, Taseer would never have had to defend that poor Christian woman for her supposed and unconfirmed blasphemy. This law creates an atmosphere of hostility and instigates this sort of violence.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

Well said Faris mera bhai. But what is that center? How would this centrist govt approach this blasphemy law, which is obviously used to terrorize people?
Im sure you can agree with me that this so called law is abused.

I suppose the centrist approach would be to amend the said law, so it is harder for people to abuse..
But wait a second! Taseer and the rest of his party did say the only wanted to Amend it after all!

Seems even rational centrists are vilified and thrown to the dogs! :chai:

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

Not in Pakistan. Barbarity in Pakistan only seems to invoke even more barbarity.

Anyone who speaks up now will have to worry about being killed.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

We live in very confusing times. Things are not the same anymore. Ghazi Ilm-ud-din was a shaheed, Mumtaz Qadri is a terrorist/murderer. Its amazing to see how the general perspective changes over few decades.

If Mr. Taseer indeed called the law of namoos-e-risalat - Kalaa Qanoon' then he made a political mistake. You have to understand that you live in a country where people kill and die over issues which pertains religious matters and its an extremely sensitive issue. The basic instanc against that law should've been very clear, i.e that fact that the way the law is written, its been used in unfair manner. Its not the law but its use that was unjust. Govt should've been more clear about this. We dont need any more killings. Enough is enough.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

So im guessing Sherry Rehman is going to have to beef up her security. I mean beef down her security for the sake of security... What a country.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

Well bhai it seems that the center is what the majority of Pakistani’s want.

I do indeed agree that said Blasphemy law could indeed be ammended to prevent it being abused…

however if I recall correctly and theres is plenty of evidence to back this up folks like your anti beard league want the law to be totally scrapped… youve’d said that yourself many times.

Now i’m in no position to be the judge on matters of such magnitude however all I can say is that both the Mullait and the Secularist faction are blind in thier hatred…

Until the two can learn to sit in a civilised manner and talk things over we will continue to see such tragedies…

As for Taseer there are a number of reasons he could be targeted, he himself said that nobody could remove him from his position, and furthermore it’s all too murky to be sure… there are hallmarks of an inside job here and I’m sure theres more to this…

I can agree with you there though :chai:

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

This situation of current blasphemy laws uproar in Pakistan reminds me of the story of great sufi Mansur .. He reached such height of ecstasy and junoon, he started shouting " I am the Truth, I am the Truth."

And fundamentalists/extremists hung him on the charges of blasphemy, saying that he is claiming to be God.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

Extremism creeped up in the society before this law was introduced. Extremism began with Afghan invasion by Russia when Saudi money started flowing in then militant orgs like SSP propped up. So either we try to fight the tree or we cut the roots, the law is now a 'tree' while the extremism is 'root'.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

the day when Pakistan Army would say we are sorry we killed Bhutto, when they will say that we sorry we rape and killed Pakistani men and women. the day they will say we are sorry we killed Liaquat ali Khan, the day they will say we are sorry we killed Shurawardy. and count less innconnet people of Pakistanl.

re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

^ Agreed.:k: