Re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad
Pakistan needs a Secular Hitler to come and wipe out these Islamic Fundamentalists.
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only good politician is a dead politician... at least in pakistan
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I want to point to another bigger issue. now this case gives strength that there is organized or unorganized tendency in the pak security personals to adhere to vigilantism. so what if a security personal does the same with a foreign diplomat or leader. it is quite possible. that will give rise to problems of unimaginable proportions.
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^ clean the local mess first (there is toooo much), then go for the foreign leaders : p
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Rehman Malik should just resign if he’s saying this because he is the minister in charge of home security
just proving his incompetency here
Security agencies lack means to screen personnel
http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/06/security-agencies-lack-means-to-screen-personnel.html
**Although the country has been fighting terrorism and losing thousands of innocent people, the government has not worked out a procedure for the screening of security personnel to verify their links or otherwise to religious extremists. **
The tragic assassination of Punjab Governor Salman Taseer by his own security guard has raised several questions about the country’s police structure, compelling the government to ensure a mechanism of periodical screening of security personnel in police and other civil armed forces.
Interior Minister Rehman Malik has also admitted on record that no mechanism exists to check behaviour and activities of the police personnel.
“We will devise a mechanism in police force to avoid induction of religious extremists,” the minister said.
Some security experts and retired police heads are of the view that a procedure for scrutiny of police personnel exists, but it is not followed.
A former inspector general of Sindh police said that intelligence organisations like Intelligence Bureau and Special Branch did not properly monitor activities of police personnel, especially those who are deputed on sensitive assignments.
He was of the view that scrutiny of a policeman should be started from the day he applied for the job and later during his training.
“In this connection, instructors in police academies are responsible for reading their students, their behaviour and aims,” he said.
The official emphasised the need for psychological examination of applicants who passed police tests at the time of their recruitment.
The former director general of National Police Bureau and present Secretary of Narcotics, Mr Tariq Khosa, said police rules required that a report must be sought from Special Branch about new recruits, but it had been observed that the report was prepared ‘leniently’ without proper intelligence.
Referring to induction of Malik Mumtaz Hussain Qadri in the police force, he said there was a committee before which his case must have been presented for screening, and to ascertain whether he had any connection with any religious organisation or not.
“The committee is responsible for checking previous record of Elite Force personnel before their induction,” Mr Khosa said.
The assassin, who is reportedly an active member of religious organisation Dawat-i-Islami, had organised a religious congregation at his home in Rawalpindi three days before assassinating the governor in front of his colleagues.
Mr Khosa said that provincial governments should ensure regular screening of security personnel in all such departments working under their supervision or control.
“I am very disturbed to think whether there was any flaw in his (the killer’s) basic training or in his selection,” the official said.
Afzal Shigri, a former IG of Punjab police, said there should be no political pressure and influence on police heads at the time of recruitment.
“Not only in police but in all security departments there is need for a mechanism of internal surveillance,” he said.
It has been learnt that the IG of Special Branch, Mr Nasir Durrani, had released a report last year in which it had been pointed out that Mumtaz Qadri and 10 other policemen had some nexus to religious extremists and it was suggested that they should not be deployed on the VIP duty.
Mr Irshad Hussain, a former IGP of Balochistan, said that Intelligence Bureau and Special Branch were responsible for screening of police personnel, but they did not do it.
“If the killer had organised a religious ceremony at his home it should have been reported by the IB and SB and he should not have been included in the governor’s security squad,” he said.
He stressed the need for periodic assessment of police personnel, preferably twice a year, and their report must be shared with top to low-ranking police officials.
In view of the incident, the federal government has asked all provincial governments to ensure proper monitoring and checking of religious extremists in police and that no security personnel having links with any religious organisation was included in police squads given to VIPs and foreign delegates.
A senior official of the interior ministry said there was an urgent need to screen religious fanatics in police force and the interior ministry had asked all provincial home ministries to take prompt action on these lines.
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**How Pakistan responded to Salman Taseer's assassination**
Many in Pakistan felt that the governor's critique of blasphemy laws made his death, if not justifiable, understandable – and others went even further
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A candle-lit rally in memory of Salman Taseer, who was assassinated on Tuesday. Photograph: Rizwan Tabassum/AFP/Getty Images Minutes after the murder of the governor of Pakistan’s Punjab province Salman Taseer I saw a veteran Urdu columnist on a news channel. He was being what, in breaking news jargon, is called a “presenter’s friend”. “It is sad of course that this has happened but . . .”
I watched in the desperate hope that he wouldn’t go into the ifs and buts of a brutal murder in the middle of Pakistan’s capital. By this time we knew that Governor Taseer had been shot dead by a man in police uniform, probably one of his own police guards. The news ticker on screen informed us that the postmortem was under way. Later we would find out that he took 27 bullets. Not a single shot was fired by his security detail. It seemed too early for analysis, but the presenter’s friend looked mildly smug, as if he had been mulling over arguments in his head long before the governor was shot. Although it wasn’t required, the presenter egged him on. “But you see these are sensitive matters. He should have watched his words. He shouldn’t have spoken so carelessly.”
What were the late governor’s words? I knew about his outspoken stance on the case of Asia Bibi, a Christian woman sentenced to death in a blasphemy case. In a village near Lahore, she served water to some Muslim women who refused to drink it from her glass. (This is quite a common expression of prejudice against lower-caste Christians in Pakistan.) They argued. A couple of days later, the village mullah filed a case saying she had insulted our Prophet.
I knew about his habit of making fun of his political foes, mostly through Twitter. But I still wanted to find out what his exact words were. If a billionaire who is also a governor and enjoys the highest level of security imaginable in Pakistan, can be shot for saying something, it’s in everyone’s interest to find out what those words were. I mean what if you were to utter those words by mistake?
The presenter chipped in helpfully. “Yes, he did call our blasphemy law a black law.” Thoughtfully, the presenter’s friend nodded his head in agreement.
Murder solved.
Only last month I had followed another blasphemy case. A pharmaceutical salesman walked into a well respected paediatrician’s clinic in the city of Hyderabad and tried to sell him his company’s medicines. The good doctor was in a bad mood. He tossed the salesman’s visiting card in the bin. The very next day the salesman got together some local religious party activists and got a blasphemy case registered against the doctor.
How did the wily salesman manage to achieve that?
You see, Mohammed was part of salesman’s name, as it is with half the male population of this country, including this scribe. So if you toss away a piece of paper with the word Mohammed written on it, you are obviously committing a blasphemy against our beloved Prophet. And there is a law against that in this country, introduced by Pakistan’s military dictator and part-architect of the global jihad industry, General Ziaul Haq. The law is popularly known as the Namoos-e-Risalat Act; the law to protect the honour of the Prophet, and there is only one punishment: death by hanging. A number of non-Muslims as well as Muslims have been awarded this punishment, but nobody has actually been hanged yet. Higher courts usually overturn the punishment. In many cases a mob, or motivated gunmen, have carried out the punishment themselves.
Taseer had obviously not committed any blasphemy against the Holy Prophet or any namesake of his. As coverage progresses, politicians and pundits lectured the dead governor about the importance of choosing one’s words carefully and respecting the sensitivities of one’s fellow Muslims, especially if one lives in a Muslim country. A couple of liberal TV journalists almost stumbled over their words trying to explain that the governor had never committed any act that could be called blasphemous, he had only criticised a law. It is a man-made law, we were reminded by an occasional sensible voice. And the governor only criticised that man-made law, “because no true Muslim,” every single politician, journalist, pundit was at pains to point out, “can even think of committing blasphemy against the Holy Prophet.” As if it were a proven fact that all non-Muslims have nothing better to do than thinking of devious ways of maligning our Holy Prophet’s name. They were careful to add “may peace be upon him” every time the name was mentioned. Some of them offered to sacrifice their own lives to protect the honour of our Holy Prophet.
It sickened me to think that the honour of the Prophet of the second largest religion in the world needed protection from these people. And then it occurred to me that they were actually sending secret signals to any would be killers that said, “Look we speak the same language, we are not blasphemers like that governor guy. We watch our words. We know about the sensitivities of our Muslim brothers. In fact we are as sensitive as you are.”
Taseer’s body was still in the morgue when I started to find out more about the sensitivities of our people. Whereas most people rushed home and sat glued to their TVs, probably agreeing or disagreeing with those TV presenters, many of those interviewed at random seemed to approve. “Well, murder is wrong, but he did say bad things about our Prophet,” one man said. Another claimed that if he had got a chance he would do the same thing. When asked how they knew that Taseer had committed blasphemy, they just shrugged as if saying they just knew. As if they had decided that he just seemed like the kind of guy who would do something like this.
Even before Taseer was given a burial, his killer had become a hero of sorts. Constable Mumtaz Qadri belonged to Punjab’s Elite Force, a police force usually deployed to provide security to VIPs. And although he had acted alone, at least some of his colleagues knew that he was planning to assassinate the governor. He had made them promise that they wouldn’t shoot him in the act. Hence, after pumping 27 bullets into the governor’s body, he calmly handed himself over to his colleagues who had apparently kept their promise. They tied his hands and legs with a nylon rope and took him away. By the evening, Qadri’s picture had replaced a thousand profile pictures on Facebook. He was a mujahid, a lion, a true hero of Islam. We wish there were more of him.
Little is known about Qadri at this stage, except that he attended pro-blasphemy law rallies and was considered a bit of a religious nut. His name tells us that he wasn’t born into the kind of family where lessons of jihad are served with school meals. Qadris are a subsect of Barelvi Sunni Muslims, who were traditionally more likely to enjoy Qawwali music and distributing rice pudding to celebrate their spirituality. Pakistan has seen so much sectarian strife over the last two decades that no single group is now above the fray. Last year, a wave of suicide bombings across the country targeted Sufi shrines, the places millions of Pakistanis have traditionally preferred to mosques. Now the devotees of these shrines publicly pledge to save them through an armed struggle. But when it comes to the honour of our Holy Prophet the devotees of these shrines and those who consider this whole shrine thing a big bad blasphemy, all come together. And everyone else stays silent or applauds them on Facebook.
So who are these people who lionise the cold-blooded murderer? Your regular kids, really. Some Pakistani bloggers have tried to get these fan pages banned for inciting hate. But as soon as one shuts down, another five crop up. Those who have trawled the profiles of these supporters have said that they have MBA degrees, they follow Premier League football, they love the Pirates of the Caribbean films. Miley Cyrus figures on lots of these pages. And as the Pakistani blogger who blogs under the name Kala Kawa pointed out: “If you go through the profiles of Qadri supporters on Facebook, you’d think Justin Bieber was the cause of extremism in Pakistan.”
Many of Taseer’s Twitter followers were retweeting his old messages full of courage, humour and, above all, his humanity, his decision to stand with Pakistan’s most powerless citizen, a poor non-Muslim woman languishing in a death cell. In one of his messages, he had said that he’d not bow down even if he was the last man standing. Only eight hours before his assassination, he tweeted an Urdu couplet by Shakeel Badayuni featured and translated by a Pakistani media blog Cafe Pyala:
"My resolve is so strong that I do not fear the flames from without
I fear only the radiance of the flowers, that it might burn my garden
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Dear TLK…i was just having fun… you missed my 
smiley i think ..
Its simple… really…some guy, brainwashed, didn’t see his concerns being taken seriously,expected no one to listen, did it himself…
p.s… why is it important when some politician/elite persond diess…but no one discusses when some ordinary folk is dead?? thats just another news that so and so was killed…why make a huge hue and cry over this??
Re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad
I want to point to another bigger issue. now this case gives strength that there is organized or unorganized tendency in the pak security personals to adhere to vigilantism. so what if a security personal does the same with a foreign diplomat or leader. it is quite possible. that will give rise to problems of unimaginable proportions.
How many foreign diplomat and leaders have died by Indian security personal since the killing of Indra Gandhi?
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http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/06/taseer’s-murderer-mumtaz-qadri-presented-in-atc.html
is this the beginning of the expected…?
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I am delighted to see the ugly reality coming to fore. The religious loonies and conservative Zia-ist elements lie well entrenched within the society, protected by the PEOPLE and impossible to question. There's little hope.
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How many foreign diplomat and leaders have died by Indian security personal since the killing of Indra Gandhi?
so u mean Pakistan will follow the same trajectory as India?
i doubt that.
btw the motives of both the killings cannot be compared. The one in Pakistan was done by a religious nut for some alleged verbal act and the one in India was done by a minority for a military action that resulted in killing of many people of that community.
In case of India the reason for assassination dont exist anymore as it was specific to Indira gandhi only, but in the case of Pakistan every liberal, western diplomat or someone with different view is still a alive target and a reason.
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so u mean Pakistan will follow the same trajectory as India? i doubt that.
btw the motives of both the killings cannot be compared. The one in Pakistan was done by a religious nut for some alleged verbal act and the one in India was done by a minority for a military action that resulted in killing of many people of that community. In case of India the reason for assassination dont exist anymore as it was specific to Indira gandhi only, but in the case of Pakistan every liberal, western diplomat or someone with different view is still a alive target and a reason.
Is that why Indian government don't employ Sikhs as bodyguards even to this day?
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Is that why Indian government don't employ Sikhs as bodyguards even to this day?
I dont know. you tell me. i have never heard that before.
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^Thank you.
Re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad
کوئی بھی کتا جب پاگل ہو جائے تو کسی کو بھی کاٹ سکتا ہے -
اپنے مالک کو بھی
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Re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad
کوئی بھی کتا جب پاگل ہو جائے تو کسی کو بھی کاٹ سکتا ہے - اپنے مالک کو بھی
or we can say - Jab Qismat kharab ho tu oNth pe baitey hove Admi ko bi Kutta kaaT layta hai -
Or in other words - it doesnt matter how wall guarded and secured you are !
when your time comes - it comes with a bang :)
And this is something our politicians have to learn - if the commoners get mad , no security walls/systems/guards , going to save them
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or we can say - Jab Qismat kharab ho tu oNth pe baitey hove Admi ko bi Kutta kaaT layta hai -
Or in other words - it doesnt matter how wall guarded and secured you are !
when your time comes - it comes with a bang :)
And this is something our politicians have to learn - if the commoners get mad , no security walls/systems/guards , going to save them
We are set to be finished other wise it was not time question.
Time to lgta hay ham sab ka aa gia hay.
ٹائم تو لگتا ہے ہم سب کا آ گیا ہے -
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^Thank you.
so following your logic, the way pakistan will stop further killings is by removing all the muslim body guards.
and please no one liners please.