Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

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Do you want me to write a thesis on this petty debate?

My answer to your initial question is no because that would be regarded as religious discrimination.

Re: Governor Punjab Salman Taseer murdered in Islamabad

may his soul rest in peace...

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well if you want to then please go ahead.
what is religious discrimination?

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^Religious discrimination - Wikipedia

i guess you can keep yourself busy with little reading.

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That is not right. We discussed Sialkot incident in great details on this forum.

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nah.. i just wanted you to write little more than one line.
i will read , if you write :slight_smile:

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Looks like the police have been given a 3 day custody of assassin. I really hope they find out why he did what he did. Who compelled him to do it, or motivated him. And also figure out why the rest of elite guards didn't retaliate. Although someone mentioned earlier that the shock of moment could have caused them to become dumbfounded to see one of their own teammates committing such an act of violence. But nonetheless, they should/would have at least attempted to shield the Governor or stop him from shooting, if not altogether become spectators.

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Some of his colleagues knew what Qadri was planning to do and did not interefere in the after-math.
Some of the others were requested by the killer to not shoot and take him alive.

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I bet Qadri’s followers and lovers wouldn’t even bother understanding what Taseer is trying to say here.
Such a shame he lost his life because of his stance which was absolutely right.

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what about more than 2000 innocent civilians who died along with 30-40 foreign terrorists (which is also doubtful)??? its sad, that nobody discussed and cried for those 2000+ lives...

may be we need more blood of shohada on our borders...

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we cry Aceno. You really think that just because they were not discussed on case to case basis then it simply means that we do not care. Pakistani are not that senseless man. You are one, I am one and we both feel sad about the loss of innocent lives and there are 100 of thousands like us who feel the same

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We are having a poll even right now on drone attacks issue. Please do visit the thread and express your opinion. It is unjust on your part to accuse Pakistanis of being insensitive to the issue. However to justify extremism because of these attacks is unjustified.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/471932-drone-attacks-should-stop-immediately-5.html#post7948454

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yes TLK, you are right, we do, but i meant to say we dont do that on national level like we do for these criminals corrupt politicians... we declare national mourning and express so much sorrow and what not, but when its comes to these people, who get martyred in those mass murders every day all we do is record our so called protest by saying "we are against drones" and "terrorist are also killed" blah blah...

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i think my first post was not clear enough. but explained above what i meant.

and as far as the thread you mentioned i was the 3rd person to vote and comment…

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A thought provoking article:

                                 **Lynching Salmaan Taseer: Social justice by a ‘pious’ nation**

                                                                          [Waleed Zuberi](http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/author/385/waleed-zuberi/)

How different is Qadri from a suicide bomber who murders innocent bystanders by blowing himself up?

**Governor Salmaan Taseer’s murder at the hands of his own bodyguard has certainly rocked the proverbial Pakistani boat. **Just four days into a new year – which the astrologers on the television told us would be a good one for Pakistan – a police guard turned his gun on the governor, riddling him with 26 bullets. The assassin was led away, smiling ear to ear at his accomplishment and leaving a trail of utter madness in his wake.
Pakistan has had its share of turbulent times, and through the years we’ve found surprising ways of coping with them. We deny involvement, blame ‘invisible hands’ and eventually move on to the next news story that’s breaks on TV with unfortunate animations and impudent musical scores.
The situation this time has resulted in a divide between ultra-religious hardliners and the self-proclaimed modern and free-thinking public. With large and influential religious groups condoning and even applauding the assassin for his deed, the shocked and confused free-thinking public is left questioning their notions of right and wrong.
The thing to be worried about, of course, is the implication of this assassination. An argument can certainly be made that simply speaking against a harsh sentence imposed by the Constitution (under section 295-C) does not make one wajibul qatl. Even the Sahaba were known to disagree with Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) at times without being declared so. Would they, too, be murdered today for having separate opinions? Besides, the laws we are talking about here are certainly man-made, with no basis in the Holy Quran or Sunnah.
The point of this writing, however, is to call attention to the implications of vigilante action. Praise is being heaped upon the assassin for gunning down the governor, and the justification for murder is that what Qadri did was congruent with the public sentiment. In the eyes of many, what Mr Taseer did -question the validity of a man-made law – was a greater evil than what the assassin did – murder.
The question, therefore, is this: Does public sentiment outweigh Islamic and constitutional law as well as basic human rights? Can we justify murder, or rather any action, because the public ‘wanted it?’ Why is homosexuality looked down upon then? Or prostitution? The public, or at least a majority, clearly wants it – if we can justify murder in this way, why not these? Where is the line drawn?
How different is Qadri from a suicide bomber, then, who murders innocent bystanders by blowing himself up? But Salmaan Taseer was not innocent, you say. Then perhaps the suicide bombings in Israel or the satanic West are justifiable, because they too are ‘enemies of Islam’ simply because we say so. What about suicide bombings in Karachi or Peshawar? Where does our passive acceptance and meek justification of mass murder end?
We, that call ourselves lovers of peace and preachers of a religion as pristine as Islam, are nothing but a crowd of disorderly bigots who find no greater joy than in finding fault with others. After all, if a crowd can beat two kids to death and get away with it, certainly a righteous protector of Islam can murder a wayward governor. Am I right?

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No bearded cop to guard VVIPs

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Regional/Lahore/08-Jan-2011/No-bearded-cop-to-guard-VVIPs

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And where does it say that they are not going to hire any Muslim guards in future?

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In Islamic country Islamic laws must be obeyed. But the offenders should be dealt by the law and law should not be taken into hands of people. Please love each other and be tolrant to each other. After all Prophet Mohammed (sw) message is love and Tolrance.

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Question for people familiar with Pakistan's Judicial system:

What judgement will be handed to the murderer, ultimately ?
Will this judgement be carried out ?

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LOL!
Check it out quick before they change it:

“We will promote terrorism in the world at every cost: Qureshi”

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/10-Jan-2011/We-will-eliminate-terrorism-from-the-country-at-every-cost-Qureshi