Government Policies Totally Failed in Swat Crisis!

The Government policies regarding Swat Crisis have badly failed. No doubt that the Swat Operation must have to be started as it was the need of time also but whenever you start an army operation you must have to conduct a survey of that place that if there are large amount of civilians living there then what harm it would do to the civilians and to what extent or amount the people would be displaced or killed or migrate.

So it was the duty of the government to ensure financial and other medical and food aid as well as aid for shelter of refugees in safe areas and places. During this operation some government officials also said that the government’s probability of total amount of refugees was not so large as it has been during this operation. About 2.5 million refugees have migrated from the tribal areas and swat, dir and buner.

Moreover, there are also some places where still food and aid had not reached and in those places poor people had even not had food from 9 days. Now this is something very shameful for the government, army and us as a nation that we have left our brothers and sisters of swat alone in such a dreadful situation. There have been many civilian killings as well as talibanic and army personnel killing from both sides.

Human Rights Watch has also said that both the talibans and the army are doing wrong in this situation which would result in a great humanitarian crisis. This large scale migration is said to be the second largest migration in the Pakistan’s history after the migration of 1947.

In many places where the aid still had not been delivered, when the desperate people fought for every bit of food with each other and when they started snatching food items of aid for their family’s survival then some food officers also announced to stop giving them food and aid items. Now this is such a brutality and a stupidity in this dreadful situation because afterall government is responsible for what is happening all around not those poor brothers and sisters who are desperate for their survival. And such officers must be taken to full task.

Now, the thing is that if the government officials even don’t bothered to know the result of this dreadful humanitarian crisis after army operation and if they underestimated the migration of refugees then such president, such prime minister and such ministers must have to resign from their seats they do not deserve to be on the seats now because even talibans have not killed millions of people in their terrorist attacks which would be killed in a humanitarian crisis after army operation due to irresponsibility and under estimation and slavery of government.

Moreover, the US Officials are also saying and pressurizing Pakistan not to focus on Indian borders but to take fully participation against talibans becoz India is not an enemy of Pakistan according to them but real enemy are talibans. Now look at the tone of the enemy that it is pressurizing Pakistan Army not to focus on real enemy but to focus on Taliban so that our enemies India, US, NATO would be able to destroy and attack Pakistan in such a dreadful situation. They are also destroying Pakistan internally through such a large scale humanitarian crisis as well as attacking inside Pakistani territories through drones and through intelligence operations and now they are also paving the way to attack Pakistan.

Moreover, If US and NATO can attack and give finance for WAR AGAINST SO CALLED TERROR before starting of their operations with collaboration of Pakistani forces then why they not gave a sufficient amount to Pakistan to cater the situation of large scale refugees and a humanitarian crisis?. Now this is something to think about for all the Pakistanis who have not sold their conscious yet that actually what is going on here and still we all are sleeping.

Infact we all have stopped to care about our people we have stopped thinking of the dreadful situation and the feelings and miseries through which our brothers and sisters are going through. And that is very bad indeed very bad situation.

Those people who say that actually this war is Pakistan’s own war and for Pakistan’s own safety then yes I admit it but only now it had become Pakistan’s war, otherwise when at first the US attacked Afghanistan it was only US war not Pakistan’s and today which bomb blasts and extremism we are seeing is just because of government’s wrong policies and those ignorant talibans also like to become the religious landlords.

But in the reality and in the beginning, this war was and is the US War, not a Pakistani War.

And Our Government and people must seriously think about it, otherwise Pakistan already has many enemies from internally and externally to deal with.

Please come forward to help those poor people of the nation, our brothers and sisters who are desperate and fighting for their survival.

:bummer:

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Government Policies Totally Failed in Swat Crisis!
I agree, what took them so long to take this action???

FT instead of coming here and shedding crocodile tears day in and day out, forum members would like to know what practical steps (if any) have you taken to alleviate the sufferings of IDPs

Otherwise this is nothing but rona dhona about the government-backed military operation. Some civilian losses are regrettably unavoidable (sad but true) but look at the bigger picture. Our country will be the better for it. Our military should not rest until the entire terrorist infrastructure in the North-West has been completely dismantled and every Talib flushed out of the land. These people are nothing but pain and nuisance

^ right on, here is the actual problem:

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Its funny how the mindless lot was jumping out of their pants when this all out operation was about to start, without realizing the consequences of a civil war, and the mass exodus that was going to take place. Some were even creating a war hysteria posting anti-indian war songs! :smack: Quite idiotic, now that even their favorite party who called for the operation while being thousands of KM’s away from the troubled spot, is not so keen on having these displaced IDPs in their territories. Next time think before you call for wars.

Was it better after the wars against India, or the wars against the Baluchis, East Pakistanis, or even a small tiny war against Lal Masjid?

well im not weeping or shedding crocodile tears, but instead u are shedding those tears without seeing consequences. where i have said that the operation must not be done but if you think that after destroying only talibanic terrorist structure, pakistan would be free of terrorism then ur living in paradise of fools, still there are many traitors and enemy intelligence agenciz who are doing all such things. u also need to totally destroy their terrorist infrastructure also sir. not only of talibans.

:halo:

Spock: Howelse do you propose should we have dealt with this nuisance? sat on the problem till the militants multiplied from 5,000 (that is just a rough government estimate) to 50,000 perhaps 100, 000......till the problem became insurmountable!!

And just because some of us support military operation in Swat does not mean that we supported military action against Baluchis and East Pakistanis in the past (we do understand their sense of discrimination and have sympathy for them). That is not to say that troublemakers whereever they maybe should not be dealt with. Bugti was challenging the writ of the government and his goons destroying state property - railway tracks, gas pipelines etc. Besides the fight for your rights or the fight to end discrimination (Bengalis, Baluchis) is not the same as the fight to impose your barbaric way of life (Talibs) on the masses. What the Taliban thugs were doing was nothing but open rebellion against the state and the government and military had to act to end the death and destruction in the North-West

FT: I do agree though that the government should have set up camps and done a full risk (financial; health - that some of these IDPs may need medical treatment; hygiene; security - terrorists hiding in camps as civilians etc.) assessment before starting the operation. They should have made financial arrangements beforehand and not gone looking for money after people started migrating in their 1000s. As it is we desis (government and people alike) are not as organsied or disciplined as western societies (you see that in queues etc. almost daily)

jahilon ko kabhi baat samajh me nahe aa sakti i have many times said that im not a supporter of talibans but propaganda cells always propagate.

:halo:

^ doosron ko jaahil samajhney wale khud sab se ziyada jaahil hotey hein and I know what kind of unintelligent stuff you have been posting here almost daily. And where did I say that you are Talib supporter maulana FT?

yeh to wohi baat ho gayee

Q- AOA

A- Mein baigan khareed raha hon

the IDP situation is indeed bad. But no matter how good the gov't plan could've been in that regards it's still 2 million people, things would have gone awry. I'm of a belief that sometimes a nation must sacrifice with their blood to pave the way for a better future. some bold steps have to be taken regardless of how bad things become short term, history is full of examples of nations like that. It was Abraham Lincoln's bold step to end slavery even if it meant a civil war and though, it resulted in half a million dead but paved the way for America to emerge as a super power on global front. Imagine, when in coming few weeks Pak army totally destroys taliban, they're fighting in the streets of Mangora right now, imagine they win over there and there are no more talibans, or very little pose any threat. No more suicide bombings, no more blowing up of girls schools, no more floggings of women, no more all the inhumane things they have done, what is that worth?

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the people wanted democrazy and have got it.

this crisis is almost nothing infront of the 2005 earthquake, they had months to plan and yet turned it into a diesaster yet the earthquake crisis management was done so brilliantly when they had no time to plan at all. even right now the whole goverment is sleeping while its the military involved in everything from relife efforts to crisis management and diesatser planning, yet when there is a martial law they start crying and talking about institutions. what is the goverment for, the only thing they have done in over 1 year has been numerber 1. corruption, number 2. begging the world for money

What nonsense. Corruption champion is your godfather Musharaf, who left this country in this ****y mess. Get your facts straighten out.

yeh right thats why in musharrafs era, we saw pakistans biggest economy boost ever, for the first time unemployment went down, poverty decreased, fdi boomed, etc. i can go on forever, and after hes gone were back to pre mush levels. so its you who needs there facts sorted out.

i gues you should learn some from javeid choudary.

hahahahaha

suhaib,

in 2007 and 2008 under Mush the slave of Bush, Pakistan was the most corrupt nation on earth. Again get your stupid facts straighten out.:)

statistics dnt lie my friend they are facts, call them stupid, retarded or all you want but you will never be able to change it, which is another fact you need to digest.

mush did the unthinkable to turn pakistan around from where it was in 1999, yet your beloved ghadari, put it back in the dumps, again another fact for your digestive system to digest which doesnt seem to be working but that doesnt mean you can change it even if you call it stupid or whatever you want, a fact is a fact and you must take it like that.

oh and did you call mush a slave of bush, then what would you call your gadari? i would love to hear another of your fantasy tales on this is well.

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I didn't get it

There are rumours that the so-called taliban are not even muslim and the weapons are the same which were supplied to Afghan forces by the Americans.

These So-called Talibans have not only challenged the writ of the state but have never fulfiled their side of the bargain

According to their ideology, no one is muslim but them...

These Talibans are also accused to kidnapping extortion and all those crimes which one can accept from any anti-Pakistan body.

These Taliban kidnapped men from security forces, they attacked govt installations and they killed as many govt. officials they can.

Now, what Jamat-e-Islam, Imran Khan or any othe guy who is against the operation is thinking??? Is it so hard to see that if the operation is not done the way it has been done, it can be reason for NATO, US and Indian forces to invade Pakistan???

The IDPs are their, they are suffering, but weren't they suffering under talibans??? they were not living like a king there, the war will soon be over, these people will soon go back home, it is not like Palestine where the country has ben taken over by some external forces, it is an operation clean-up, Jawans and Officers of Pak-Army are directly engage in one of the most difficult war of its time, they are fighting, INDIA, US and NATO at same time, and at this time, some members of Media, some politician ( maybe good for nothing) and some members influenced by Media and Politicians are doing nothing but (directly or indirectly) criticizing the army and its operation.

The other day Talat Hussain of Aaj tv was saying that Army has moved last year taken the peaks, to him it was a useless effort, as the talibs were in the cities.. now can anyone tell that idiot that, if Army have not taken over the peaks, then Taliban may have, and even a person with average IQ ( like me ) knows that, in Mountain war-fare, who ever controlls the peaks control the war!!!

Geo tv on the other hand, to secure maximum fund are exploiting the conditions of IDPs.... i don't know if GEO can think beyond their own benefits, they have not said ( not to my info) openly that the operation should stop, but they are banking on issue of IDPs to run their channel.. pathetic it is...

Let grow up, lets stand behind our Army, who is fighting a war for us, who is sacrifcing their lives for us... lets not fall for the pathetic politician who at this difficult time is busy in point scoring, i never thought i'll see the name of Imran Khan in the list of most pathetic poltician of Pakistan ( well its my list), so far, Molana Diesel urf Hub-ul-Iqtaydaar urf Fazaul-ur-Rehman is on the top most, followed by Altaf hussian, who is creating disturbance in Karachi, then Muwar Hussain/Hassan, who is busy in getting something for his own fame, so he decided to go againt Pakistan itself and now Imran Khan has joined the party....

I guess leaders of PPPP and PML(N) & (Q) has shown far more responsible behavior then anyone else...

The Question from the whinners... Have they any plans to help IDPs in re-settling in their houses after the war is over??? I guess they have nothing at hand...

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^that's why I consider talibans to be the most dangerous enemy Pakistan has ever faced. Even after eating bombs after bombs from these scum of the earth, there is still a considerable amount of populace bearing a soft corner in their hearts for talibans.

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Taliban could tomorrow explode a nuclear weapon in a pakistani city and jamatis, immi's 5 pti supporters etc, would still find a way to justify it.

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^^ so true

they will probably concoct some nonsense conspiracy theory combining Hiroshima and Nagasaki to Israel, Jews and Zionists, to some grand plan by India, Russia, Iran and USA/NATO to take over Pakistan with Zaid Hamid and Hamid Gul being the biggest cheerleaders