going to the pub

Society Religion & Philosophy
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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by rvikz: *
what pakistan gained not having pub it has produced drug addicts.
this holier than you attitude is just a myth.
quran is followed literally some think drugs are ok since word "drug"
dont appear.
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what a compromise....anyhow, I was thinking more along the lines that if one leaves the masjid he is seen as a namazi, if one leaves the pub he is seen as drinker. Since, masjid is where u pray and pub is where u drink..Also correct me if i am wrong but this spreads fitna? Also those u move with are those who u will be raised with on the day of judgement.

theres no hollier than thou attitude here, if we dont share our knowledge or our concerns with our fellow muslims, qiyamat pay we will be also stand as a witness.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by yari-EH!: *

if u re read the hadith.....if u read it in the first place, the hadith states where wine is being served....now how can whine be served??
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Serve can mean 'to prepare and offer'

I've been around those who have offered me their complaints about the world and their life.

Do not sit at a table where complaints are offered.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by yari-EH!: *

what a compromise....anyhow, I was thinking more along the lines that if one leaves the masjid he is seen as a namazi, if one leaves the pub he is seen as drinker. Since, masjid is where u pray and pub is where u drink..Also correct me if i am wrong but this spreads fitna? Also those u move with are those who u will be raised with on the day of judgement.

theres no hollier than thou attitude here, if we dont share our knowledge or our concerns with our fellow muslims, qiyamat pay we will be also stand as a witness.
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any addicitve chemical substance including cigaretts are bad
regardless what religen says. it common sense.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by rvikz: *
quran is followed literally some think drugs are ok since word "drug"
dont appear.
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Quran clearly says any substance that results in intoxication is haram and cannot be used.. including alcohal and drugs.. dunno where u get these ideas? In only medical purposes these drugs are allowed..

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*Originally posted by Degas: *

Quran clearly says any substance that results in intoxication is haram and cannot be used.. including alcohal and drugs.. dunno where u get these ideas? In only medical purposes these drugs are allowed..
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here u are referring to drugs, but for alcohol, the Prophet (saw) said that we should avoid as medicatiion even because there is more harm in it than good.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by underthedome: *

Serve can mean 'to prepare and offer'

I've been around those who have offered me their complaints about the world and their life.

Do not sit at a table where complaints are offered.
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chalo, urdu ma is hadith ki translation dekh kay decide karle they hai...i bet in urdu wine and whine dont sound the same.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Degas: *
Quran clearly says any substance that results in intoxication is haram and cannot be used.. including alcohal and drugs.. dunno where u get these ideas? In only medical purposes these drugs are allowed..
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"clearly says haraam"??? where Degas pai jaan??

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Nothing I suppose.

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We should take into account that Jesus is dead, and according to Islam, if he was alive he would be a muslim, and not drink anyway. I doubt this senario applies to the average Ali or Abdul.

Pakistani abroad.
The prophet mohammed said..
"Every intoxicant is khamr and every khamr is haraam"..[muslim]

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^ no, it's more like "scholars agree someone said, the prophet muhammad said ....... "

but i was more interested in understanding this statement by Degas:

"Quran clearly says any substance that results in intoxication is haram and cannot be used"

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That must include tea/coffee - people do get addicted to it :)

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Hum Sa Ho To Samne Aaye: *
That must include tea/coffee - people do get addicted to it :)
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inludes women too

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Not to mention gupshup!

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Pakistani abroad, I have looked long and hard for this, I hope you appreciate it.

"O you who believe!
Truely, intoxicants and gambling,
(dedication of) stones and (divination by) arrows
are an abomination of Satans handiwork:
avoid such abomination in order that you may prosper.
Satans plan is to sow enmity and hatred among you
with intoxicants and gambling,
and to hinder you from the rememberance of Allah
and from salah (obligatory prayer)
Will you not then abstain?"

[Al-Qur-an, chapter 5, verses 90-91]

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Hehe :)

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by hiccup: *
Pakistani abroad, I have looked long and hard for this, I hope you appreciate it.

"O you who believe!
Truely, intoxicants and gambling,
(dedication of) stones and (divination by) arrows
are an abomination of Satans handiwork:
avoid such abomination in order that you may prosper.
Satans plan is to sow enmity and hatred among you
with intoxicants and gambling,
and to hinder you from the rememberance of Allah
and from salah (obligatory prayer)
Will you not then abstain?"

[Al-Qur-an, chapter 5, verses 90-91]
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but kabba is stone.

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wohwowhhowwowohohhhhhhhh :eek: hold it rite there. hazrat esa aka jesus :razi: isn’t dead at all, he was raised to the heavens by allah (subhanawatallah) and he is alive in the heavens and he will return to the earth to kill dajaal (anti-christ) i don’t know where u got ur info’ from :nono1:

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by rvikz: *

but kabba is stone.
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The kabbah is not our god.

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Sorry, my bad. I meant to say he is no longer “amongst” us.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by hiccup: *

The kabbah is not our god.
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kabba is sacred symbol every muslim prays towards and make annnual pilgrimage and do circambulation 7 times anti-clockwise.