Gog and Magog (merged)

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^Maybe but it can also be hordes of savages that will sweep down the mountains and destroy everything in their path
your version sounds like the melting of Glaciers

MS
Missiles with multiple warheads?

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Gog and Magog will fire their arrows into the sky, and they will fall back to earth with something like blood on them.

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Even a mortar shell comes down red hot. Air friction will make any heavy object fired up at those speeds heat up and come down red-hot.

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Could they be aliens ?

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Walaahoo Aalam....!

we all dont have the hidden knowledge... yeah It is still a mystry....

Only ALLAH (SWT) knows about that when "Gog & Magog (Yajooj-o-Majooj)" will come... in this world...

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interesting theory ... If we take quranic revelation in isolation !

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I had written in detail on this topic a while ago. Please see the following.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=1801290&postcount=3

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yeah rite, forgot about that, thanx for correcting me, two smileys = enjoy

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I've heard they might be descendants of Chingaze khan........

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i've heard they might be descendants of zia-ul-haq....

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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said in Muslim and bukhari traditions thats No body could fight with yajoog and majooj, except The Promised Messiah -ibn-e-maryam peace be upon him.

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this is ahmadi stuff man.............

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actually you are mistaken.........Jesus(AS) will kill dajjal not gog magog........He(AS) will supplicate to God for gog moagog's death.Then Allah will send some disease on gog magog and they will die.

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I heard that Gog and Magog are buried somewhere north of Iran near Chechenya...

they were buried there by a wall build by some persian king Xerxex or Alexander the great or someone...

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ohh well..........

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Another perspective!

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for jeevaypakistan
its ahmadi stuff.
they call dajjal and now gog magog...."essai taqatain".......its silly

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Here’s an explaination of Dajjal for you!

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The Discrepancies of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani

(In light of his own Writings)

Mirza Ghulam Qadiani wrote: "It is obvious that a truthful, clever and open-hearted man does not make any lapses in his works. Yet, if he is mad, indisposed or hypocrite, who for the sake of flattery does agree with others, his writings becomes contradictory."
(Sat-Bachen, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 10, P. 142; Sat-Bachen, P. 26) "He is absolutely an indisposed man whose work is full of fallacies and trivial observations."
(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, P. 184)

Is it fair for us to judge Mirza Ghulam in the light of his own writings? Please review the following brief samples of his discrepancies and decide for yourself if he was "mad, indisposed, or hypocrite". Which one of his contradictory writings should we accept?

  • "I have claimed to be Maseel Maseeh, which stupid people thinks that it is The Promised Messiah ... I have never claimed to be the Messiah ibne Maryam. Anyone who accuses me of it, he is absolutely a liar and fabricator. For the last eight years, I have been announcing that I am only Maseel Maseeh; By that I mean that certain spiritual properties and nature and habits and virtues of Jesus(AS) has been given to me as well by God Almighty." (Izala-e-Auham, Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 3, P. 192)

"I swear upon that God, who has sent me and lying on Him is the work of accursed one, He has sent me as The Promised Messiah."
(Majmoo'a-e-Ishtiharaat, Vol. 3, P. 435)
- "Very true, Messiah (Jesus) died going to his native land Galeel."
(Azala-e-Auham, P. 197)

"Messiah, very secretly, ran away toward Kashmir and died there."
(Kashti-e-Nuh, P. 53)
- "Messiah's (Jesus) miracle, the sparrows and their flight, are proved in the Holy Quran, but even then they retained their earthly status."
(Aina-e-Kamalat, P. 68)

"And this should be remembered that those fowls and their flight are not proven in the Holy Quran."
(Azala-e-Auham, P. 28)
- "Thus I respect that man (Jesus) whose name I have. Not only Maseeh, I even respect his four brothers because all five were the sons of same mother."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 18)

"What was the character of Maseeh? A gluttonous, an alcoholic, neither a devout worshipper nor a hermit. Nor an adorer of truth, arrogant, self-conceited, claimant of divinity."
(Roohani Khazaen, Vol. 9, P. 387)
- "All the knowledge that a Prophet possesses is taught by the angel Gabriel and the door of Gabriel's descent to bring the revelations of prophethood is closed for ever."
(Izalat-ul-Auham, P. 761)

"And Gabriel came to me and selected me and circled his finger and suggested that God would protect me from all enemies."
(Mawahib-ul-Rahman, P. 66)
- "I fully subscribe to the doctrine that Muhammad is the last of the Prophets and that any claimant to prophethood after him is an impostor and a Kafir."
(Tabligh-i-Risalat, Vol. 2, P. 20; Poster dated Oct. 2, 1891)

"I swear by God in whose hand lies my existence and say that it is He who has reputed me and called me a prophet and the Messiah."
(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, Appendix, P. 68)
- "The prophet and the messenger of God (Mirza Ghulam) lived in Qadian. That is why it was protected against the plague."
(Dafee-ul-Bla, P. 5)

"Once the plague very vigorously broke out in Qadian."
(Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, P. 232)
- "I have never abused anyone."
(Moahiburahman, P. 18)

"Those who oppose me are wild boars and their women are worst than ****es."
(*Najmul-Huda, P.15)

*Are these the writings of a sane person or those of a mad, indisposed, or hypocrite individual? *
It was in fact Mirza's habit to test the gullibility of his followers by making an outlandish claim. If too much resistance was offered and many were about to leave his movement, he would retract his claim temporarily and declare that the audience did not understand his true intent! At a later time, after his followers had been better prepared, he would advance his false claim again. Mirza Ghulam's work is in fact convoluted with contradictory statements and retractions for this exact reason.
The Qadiani missionaries often try to put Mirza's contradictory statements to good use and, by mentioning only the quotes that benefits their argument, try to paint an appealing portrait of Mirza.

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Be careful of what you write.

Chapter : 36 (YaSin) Verse : 31
Alas for my servants! there comes not a Messenger to them but they mock at him.

Chapter : 37 (Al-Saffat) Verse : 15
And when they see a Sign, they mock at it.

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I might be stupid but not that much that I start believing in "False prophets"(like ghulam ahmad).
There is no more Prophet after Prophet Muhammad(saw).
Mind it.
These 2 verses can't be applied on mirzah........bcoz he was a false prophet.