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Psyah,

you have proven that God exists. When everything is wrong, God is blamed, when everything goes good, people get idolized as if they were God. You hit the nail.

Sharabee,

can you give me reference to your allegations that God has committed genocide?? You always ask for proofs. Where are yours? I have seen none. Only frustration and lack of ability in understanding God.

You would read any other Book. Why don't you read the Qur'an? Does it bite you? I'm not forcing you, just a simple question. Why read any other Book, but stay away from Qur'an? This question is not pointed to you only, but all who talk without knowledge.

Inspiring story is the conversion of the second Khalifa Hadhrat Umar (ra) bin al-Khatab . He wanted to kill the Holy Prophet (saw). He just wanted to read what the fuss is all about and becamse Muslim. He didn't even have the intention.

Anyway, may Allah clear the knot in your Head. Ameen!

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Yes I must be a nitwit to not be through enough to understand the mighty Psyha! :hypo:
Never thought you were that petty!!!
I don’t get into god debate because its a waste of time but what sharabee said about your lengthy posts is true.

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Great Posts psyah and Bigboi.

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One request … Prove it … or is it merely your belief that it is true?

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Lol, what evidence, psyah?

Your posts may attempt to be philosophical, but they're not evidence based.

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lol. that is all :)

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Peace philosophy

Evidence is hadith and the Qur'an itself ... Evidence is the world around us ... the universe that we can see is evidence of The Deity.
You and me are evidence of Deity ... :)

So you say my posts "attempt" to be philosophical ... what are they if they're not philosophical? Can you please teach me how my posts fail to be philosophical so I can learn from you ... Oh philosophy!

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Subhan Allah! Thanks for strengthening my faith on the words of Allah even more:

**6:5 **And now they reject the truth when it reaches them: but soon shall they learn the reality of what they used to mock at.

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The Jinx ... tell me one thing ... how is it that the Qur'an knows what the rejectors will say? Perhaps the Qur'an is evidence of Deity .... !!!

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Because Quran is Allah's words and Allah is All-knowing :)

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Ok ... So the miraculous Word of The Deity is The Qur'an ??? And if the All-Knowing is an Attribute of Allah (SWT) then it goes to show it is "evidence" that The Qur'an is a sign that The All-Knowing Exists ...

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Indeed.

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Without any doubt.

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Religious orgy time?

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Here we go. Another judgement day threat. hahahahah !!!

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Health and Safety Policy at work someone is informed about the hazards of crossing the road when the red man signal is on and how he should walk in the stairwell holding the handrails ... and then he gets shown that people get into accidents if they don't follow the road rules and people get in to trips and falls on stairwells if they act unsafely ... in response he says:

"I'm not going to follow your rules, I'm gonna walk on the stairs free handed and walk across the road without using the lights ... all you give me are threats if I don't follow your rules"

I pity a person who views a warning as though it is a threat .... :(

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Coming back to the topic at hand … God is Great … And here is why …

Surah and Verse 22:73

O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.

What a challenge ?!!!

The author of the Quran is saying:

“They cannot create a fly even if they all come together”
“If the fly takes something from them, they cannot recover what it took from them”

Look at this:

Once a housefly sniffs something interesting and tastes it with its feet and palps, the time has come to gobble up the delicious morsel.
If the meal in question happens to be liquid already, then the task is easy. Since the housefly’s mouth parts are designed to sponge and ingest liquefied food, it’s just a matter of turning on the suction. The food goes straight into the fly’s stomach.

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/housefly-4.jpg

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A housefly uses its proboscis to eat a piece of sugar.

Solid food is slightly more difficult. Houseflies can't bite or chew -- they simply don't have the proper equipment. So if forced to contend with something more solid, like a grain of sugar or dried [blood](http://health.howstuffworks.com/blood.htm), houseflies must employ a different tactic. First, the housefly scrubs the dry food substance with the bristles on the end of its proboscis. This frees up food particles, if they're not already loose and crumbly. The second step can be compared to what happens when you add hot water to instant oatmeal -- only instead of hot water, the housefly adds a mixture of saliva and digestive juices. The fly vomits saliva and digestive material onto its meal, and after a few seconds pass for the juices to break down the food, the fly sucks everything back up. While this may sound rather bizarre to us, remember that the fly isn't adding anything to its food that we don't add to ours. The difference is, our teeth and jaws allow us to break down organic matter enough so it can mix with our stomach's [digestive](http://health.howstuffworks.com/digestive-system.htm) juices. The housefly is doing the same thing, just on the outside of its body. [TABLE="align: center"] Mark of the FlyIf you've ever noticed fly specks on walls or surfaces, then you've observed the telltale signs of a housefly's recent meal. Those little dots are leftovers of its regurgitative eating habits.

If the vomit can’t adequately break down food enough for it to pass through a tube leading into the stomach, the fly sends this food down a different tube to an inner sack called the crop. The fly may pass the bubble of dissolving food multiple times between crop and mouth, regularly applying fresh saliva. Eventually, the liquefied meal will be ready to send down to the stomach.
If all this vomiting sounds unhygienic, that’s because it is. Not only do potentially deadly germs cling to the very legs a housefly might use to walk on (and taste) your sandwich, if it chooses to feed, it may wind up regurgitating portions of a previous meal as well. This only multiplies the risk of disease, which is why you should keep houseflies away from food.

HowStuffWorks “Housefly Diet”

This verse is a direct challenge to the scientists and to the people who believe the scientists (taking them as gods other than The Deity)

For well over 1400 years this verse has stood the test of time. Not only are we still unable to make a fly we cannot take back what it has taken from us … It uses digestive juices to chemically change the structure of it’s food before it eats it … so in my view this verse is asking us to reverse this reaction:

If there is acid involved the chances are there is gas produced, salts and water … gas escapes quickly, salts are very stable and so is water … recovering the raw ingredients of vomit and food will be impossible even in such small amounts as a fly meal.

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How about universal constants as the evidence of Intelligent Design?!

This evidence is so powerful that atheists had to come up with various “theories” such as multi-verse in order to downplay the importance of specific values of universal constants.
But while theories like multiverse help achieve their goal of downplaying evidence of Intelligent Design, they still are mere theories while fine-tuned universal constants is an evidence.

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**what is the definition of a theory? **

and how do universal constants lend support to intelligent design???

omg, all this blahblahmumbojumbo…:hayaa:

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Theory, in the context of khoji's post, is a "hypothesis".