God Bless America

[quote]
Originally posted by just2much:
Alibeta thats right man GOD BLESS AMERICA.
All these people on this board yelling America kills muslims this that but yet they say China,Russia is great and they have killed millions of muslims over time and still are but no big deal there right?How many muslims have been killed by muslims,who knows to many to count i bet.You people who claim to love GOD or ALLAH whichever you prefer,and then pray to him for bad to happen to people or for people to die he will remeber your hate and anger and want for death and pay you back inkind because that is not what GOD/ALLAH is about we are all his children but you ask him to kill or bring bad upon his own, he will not forget.

[/quote]

This thread is abt america not china or russia

[quote]
Originally posted by Spock:
**Well said Umair... People fail to realize that guys like that Mollah Omer are strengthening the US even more by brainwashing freaks and potential mollahs like UKhalil etc... Its about time the Muslim youth start progressing towards the right direction...

**
[/quote]

if u were slapped by a man again an again.what would u do?
sit and watch him slap u.
what a brave man u r....

These people have the right to raise against anyone who is trying to destroy them

[This message has been edited by Lahori Tiger (edited April 24, 2002).]

http://www.gupistan.com/gallery/1/burnt_boy1.jpg

MAY GOD BLESS HIS SOUL

http://www.gupistan.com/gallery/1/injured1.jpg

GOD BLESS HER

http://www.gupistan.com/gallery/1/tears1.jpg

May GOD BLESS THEIR FAMILY

http://www.gupistan.com/gallery/1/SGIRLS.jpg

MAY GOD BLESS THEM AND ALL THE MUSLIMS ON THIS PLANET


**
¨`°¤© SomeDay ©¤°´¨**

I would have it that someday my poems are so good that if one of my love poems is overheard at a restaurant, it will have patrons WEEPING into their soup, will lift all into the PERFECT SPHERE of its INTIMACY.

Man! You are full of assumptions and excuses. And you seem to be unaware of the facts…

We don’t want America to be our mommy, but america should clean its mess up around the world.
US(government) is deceptive and the more stupid you are the easy you can be fooled by the deceptive devils… thus make a total ass out of your self by defending it with mere suppositions and excuses but never facts.
Iraq vs Iran - over 1 million people died. Who did America supported? Iraq and the worst dictator of modern times. Who gave Saddam the WMDs( i hope you know what that is..)??? America. After US had used Saddam when it needed to kill of Iranians, US told Iraq to attack Kuwait which in turn would ask US for help and we will be sitting on Oil fields(which US economy needs to keep it going…) in no time. THAT IS HYPOCRISY MY FRIEND and You support it.

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif

“We told him [Saddam Hussein] that we wouldn’t get involved with his border dispute … We told him he could take the northern part of Kuwait, [where the oil fields are located] and when he took the whole thing, we went nuts.” – Ross Perot http://www.netcapitol.com/Debates/92-3rd.htm

Remember, we don’t support US nor those dictators that ran for US’s help. So how can you accuse of being khudaar when we don’t have any association with those dictators and pawns who play right into hands of the ultimate deceptive dictator?

First you accused us of being “ignorant,” God knows of what and then you said we were “hypocrites,” without clarifying what insencere thing we did that led you to come up with such a stupid assumption. And now you said we are “khudaar,” can’t you discuss something with your brain rather then relying on assumptions and labeling “negative” things in order to win an argument?

The problems which concern with governments of Muslim world are product of American involvement, and america must clean it up and go home!

Also, I think you should read some history about what US did in Central and South America, Africa, South East Asia, balkans. Maybe those facts will open you eyes that american Policies are wrong around the world and people have the right to criticise what they see as wrong.

There are many “americans,” who don’t like US policies, where are you going to tell them to go back to?

America is a great place to live(most of us are living here) but its governmental policies around the world and particularly towards Muslims are full of prejudice, illwill and people with sound thinking/mind will always criticise it because they(policies) are wrong and unfair.

Quasi, don’t show him those pics. They are nothing to him. All he cares about is some hanky-panky and gora ass kissing, add Salman in there too. He is nothing but an “aasteen ka saanp.”


AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: “DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH”, THEY SAY “WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS” VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur’an-2:11-12]

[This message has been edited by Serial Guppy (edited April 24, 2002).]

[quote]
Originally posted by aahmed:
**Muzna, I agree with you about good and bad being everywhere... but answer me this, why does Ali have to justify how he feels about his country? Everyone else here posts pictures of dead Palestinians or pak air force pictures, I find those offensive, but no one posting those pictures seems to justify their feelings towards their country/religion/beliefs... why the double standard?

I agree with Ali, God Bless America...**
[/quote]

i thought that pak.org was a pakistani forrum .what interest ali has with pakistan to be on a pakistani forrum if he is american then join some american forrum and post these messages there. he would be highly praised there.

what is the meaning of brave in ur dictionary. bombing from 15000 feet on those which does not have proper food to eat.
if thats the definition of brave in ur dictionary then americans are very very very very …very brave.

[This message has been edited by Lahori Tiger (edited April 24, 2002).]

shabash ALIBETA…i’m not complimenting u towards your thoughts abt america…but something at the surface of it all
actually i’ll sum it up ina equation…
PRO-american post by alibeta=Many Angry replies from Anti-american guppies=More than 75 replies=ONE HOT POST

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/biggrin.gif

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by cooldude1234 (edited April 24, 2002).]

[quote]
Originally posted by AliBeta:
excellent points Rajput fury!
[/quote]

Thanks!

Just so you know, you've created probably the most stimulating discussion in the Image Gallery!


The eyelids of a Rajputs eyes are lowered only in death.

[quote]
Originally posted by AliBeta:
*simple reasoning bhayee to both of your posts! Dont be Hypocrites! If you call yourselves Muslims! Islam forbids "munafiqat", if you dont like the west and there policies! SIMPLE SOLUTION to your problems! GO BACK! Dont contribute by paying taxes to the Governments that support Isreal! *
[/quote]

But why go back Ali? Why not work hard, contribute to society and impact policies by getting involved? Become successful, penetrate the business and economy sectors, enter the political field by running for office and then make changes.

Isn't "Go back" a rather knee-jerk and un-intelligent kind of approach?

[quote]
Originally posted by wrath:
** yar for how long, do you expect us to clean up the mess created by britons and americans in our homeland.

Talk sense man

**
[/quote]

yara all is NOT well in the House of Islam either! If we were strong enough, we could never let things like these happen!

Let me just say this: the only reason Americans, Israelis and others in the West are hated because you all know that they are/have been/ will continue to dominate the Muslim world. How is this possible? (No one dares to ask!) It is because we waste our time in discussions like here.

The Jewish lobby is very strong in the US. Does anyone consider the fact that American
Jews are the siongle most educated, united group in the country. How many Muslim are in Congress? NONE How many Jews? 37 and growing! In America, the way to power is through education and hard work and all I see is my Muslim brothers/sisters talking about war, fighting and shrill rhetoric.

I'll tell you my plan for life: I am going to be the most educated, enlightened Muslim I can be, so when the time comes to defend the Islamic Deen it will be through my PEN not my SWORD!

Gone are the days where just emotions win battles, the wars of the future will be battles of thoughts and knowledge in the International forum, my question is: are you prepared?


The eyelids of a Rajputs eyes are lowered only in death.

Beautiful Pics Ali!!!

May ALLAH bless the frontline of Islam against the blind hatred of American Jews and Christians, but also from our Non-American Muslim Brothers/Sisters.


The eyelids of a Rajputs eyes are lowered only in death.

[quote]
Originally posted by AliBeta:
*lol! Quasimodo! Another hypocrite who lives in England and then supports extremists! If you love OBL so much why dont you go to Pakistan and Afghanistan and support them there Quasimodo! *
[/quote]

A.B First of ALL Do URSELF A FAVOR and STOP making ASSUMPTIONS. GOD knows U R FULL OF THOSE(Ignorant Ones).

Another hypocrite ... supports extremists!

A.B. HAVE U BEEN SMOKING POT??? OR TOO MUCH ALCOHOL MAKING U DIZZY OR U R BUSY TOO MUCH Kissing American A$$ THAT THE S**T is getting in UR Eyes???? LOOK AT THE PICS AGAIN, NOW THIS TIME PLEASE WATCH THEM CAREFULLY!

If you love OBL so much why dont you go to Pakistan and Afghanistan and support them there Quasimodo!

I thought IGNORANCE had a limit, BUT each time I read UR post I become doubtful, Because U always manage to stretch it to a new limit.

N.B: Anybody WHO LOL! after watching the PICS OF DEAD CHILDREN, IS WORST THEN A DEVIL.


**
¨`°¤© SomeDay ©¤°´¨**

I would have it that someday my poems are so good that if one of my love poems is overheard at a restaurant, it will have patrons WEEPING into their soup, will lift all into the PERFECT SPHERE of its INTIMACY.

[This message has been edited by Quasimodo (edited April 24, 2002).]

[quote]
Originally posted by Degas:
** .. one of my relative died in World Trade Center with hundreds of other muslims.. so I should take revenge from OBL??

**
[/quote]

First of all, got any SOLID PROOF that OBL was responsible for 9/11 attacks?

If you're talking about the fake video tape... LOL! PLEASE DONT MENTION IT THEN..

An AMERICAN himself said that Israel was responsible but no... you people are saying NO. NO.. OBL WAS RESPONSIBLE! LOL..

Brainwashed by the american propaganda...

tsk tsk tsk...sad but true..

Islam does teaches revenge.. DUH! If you dont know that, then your lack of knowledge is at a very low level...

So get your facts straight and hopefully next time it'll make it less embarrasing next time..
khuda hafiz

[quote]
Originally posted by Degas:
** .. one of my relative died in World Trade Center with hundreds of other muslims.. so I should take revenge from OBL??

**
[/quote]

First of all, got any SOLID PROOF that OBL was responsible for 9/11 attacks?

If you're talking about the fake video tape... LOL! PLEASE DONT MENTION IT THEN..

An AMERICAN himself said that Israel was responsible but no... you people are saying NO. NO.. OBL WAS RESPONSIBLE! LOL..

Brainwashed by the american propaganda...

tsk tsk tsk...sad but true..

Islam does teaches revenge.. DUH! If you dont know that, then your lack of knowledge is at a very low level...

So get your facts straight and hopefully next time it'll make it less embarrasing next time..
khuda hafiz

All I gotz to say about you is Ukhalil! Man You give Islam a bad name!

Remember the fatah of Makkah? The prphet Muhammad forgave biggest of his enemies the people who did such bad things to him!

I really feel sorry for you man! May Allah put you on the right track! Try to live and let live. Live in peace and dont spread hatred man! Thats what humanity and Islam are about!

Muzna ji!

You really need to go and read the old posts! As you are making assumptions to what I have to say. I EXACTLY agree with you wrote in your post!

I say that we need to work hard as Muslims, get educated, penetrate in the American society and politics of the West. So we can create a better image of Islam instead of living here being hypocrites by hating it, declaring everything haraam! Calling everyone Kafir, hating everyone and suicidie bombing.

Look at history yourself, how far has being ignorant and being armed with rocks brought us! Innocent Palestinians are being harassed in there own homeland everyday!

Why? Because the Jews didnt make the mistakes we are making. They got educated and secured high infuential places in the West. Think about it? Why does the West give Isreal Billions and Billions of Dollars to kill innocent Palestinians!

This is Mistake made by our Muslim brothers today. We hate the West so much and think Suicide bombing and think that hatred is the answer to everything!

[quote]
Originally posted by Muzna:
**
But why go back Ali? Why not work hard, contribute to society and impact policies by getting involved? Become successful, penetrate the business and economy sectors, enter the political field by running for office and then make changes.

Isn't "Go back" a rather knee-jerk and un-intelligent kind of approach?

**
[/quote]

[quote]
Originally posted by AliBeta:
**All I gotz to say about you is Ukhalil! Man You give Islam a bad name!

Remember the fatah of Makkah? The prphet Muhammad forgave biggest of his enemies the people who did such bad things to him!

I really feel sorry for you man! May Allah put you on the right track! Try to live and let live. Live in peace and dont spread hatred man! Thats what humanity and Islam are about!**
[/quote]

Dont feel sorry about my self.. always worry about your self..

Listen.. I have proof that OBL wasn't behind 9/11 attacks.. but still, you guys dont wanna listen to it...

You people are ignoring my opinion and are just talking about your own opinions which has prove that you people are ignorants.

And allah has already showed me the right path..

And like you talk about humanity... Did USA did humanity?

Read a post I have posted earlier.. you still haven't responded to that and talking about your own facts again which again clearly shows you are an ignorant.

I give Islam a bad name? You're telling me a muslim who supports a NON-MUSLIM nation for its evil acts gives a good name to islam? I have posted a lot of messages indicating that america is a terrorist state but you dont respond to that.. just talkin about your own arguements..

Also, what about the american killing 500,000 iraqi children and yet their own secetary of state said it's worth killing them! Is that humanity my friend?

[quote]
Originally posted by AliBeta:
**All I gotz to say about you is Ukhalil! Man You give Islam a bad name!

Remember the fatah of Makkah? The prphet Muhammad forgave biggest of his enemies the people who did such bad things to him!

I really feel sorry for you man! May Allah put you on the right track! Try to live and let live. Live in peace and dont spread hatred man! Thats what humanity and Islam are about!**
[/quote]

Dont feel sorry about my self.. always worry about your self..

Listen.. I have proof that OBL wasn't behind 9/11 attacks.. but still, you guys dont wanna listen to it...

You people are ignoring my opinion and are just talking about your own opinions which has prove that you people are ignorants.

And allah has already showed me the right path..

And like you talk about humanity... Did USA did humanity?

Read a post I have posted earlier.. you still haven't responded to that and talking about your own facts again which again clearly shows you are an ignorant.

I give Islam a bad name? You're telling me a muslim who supports a NON-MUSLIM nation for its evil acts gives a good name to islam? I have posted a lot of messages indicating that america is a terrorist state but you dont respond to that.. just talkin about your own arguements..

Also, what about the american killing 500,000 iraqi children and yet their own secetary of state said it's worth killing them! Is that humanity my friend?

Fine man! I wont argue with you anymore. Go to Afghanistan join Taleban and fight against America good for you.

But the fact remains! You are a hypocrite, you do everything to ridicule a NON MUSLIM nation (as you put it), then you speak there language, you dress up like them. You use the took of the devil (internet).

As for proof to who was behind 9/11, Allah better knows who did it, so lets leave that. But tell me wasnt OBL behind the first attack on the WTC, the bombings in Africa? You can go deny that too, you can go deny that too, but that was also killing innocent people and that isn't also justified by Islam!

If your Osama is so innocent and so brave, why doesnt he present himself to international courts and let his trial be run there!

Osama is a coward, who hides behind his goons, and since all these goons are dying, hes NEXT!!!

Bush vs Osama, kickass mtv celebrity death match!