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Show respect and tolerance for other people's religions. Its ignorant statements from muslims like yours above makes many wonder WHAT THE F--K IS WRONG WITH MUSLIMS.
I as a muslim believe that Shiva or Vishnu or Kali Maa and GOD are all REAL for thier believers.
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GOD CREATED WOMEN AND THEY DON'T HAVE FREE WILL OR FREEDOM UNDER RETROGRADE MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALIST SCHOLARS AND THEIR FOLLOWERS.
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AFRIDI786: **They r just *, who know that their religion prohibits it strictly, yet they r trying to legitimize their ** ways, what a bunch of fruits.**
I agree with you, it just shows you how imperfect religion can be and how it can promote hatred. We see it every day on TV, especially muslim on muslim violence. It’s very, very sad, that at times it can be more detrimental to life then in support of it’s existence
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You call yourself a muslim, yet you're openly advocating an act which the quran descibes as abominable?
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A muslim who advocates homosexuality, and criticizes Quran and Hadith, yeah right.
Fine, if you think its their right to, or whatever, and that you shouldn't hate them for it, but saying is alright is totally against Islam, get your facts straight before you pretend to be a Muslim.
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1400 years ago lot of things were not tolerated!!! does not mean we have to live in a backward state of permanent archaic judgement.
Perhaps , I value civil and human rights law that is modern and accepting of it's citizens rights to live as they wish in their love life.
In no way does this make me a non muslim, but a modern tolerant accepting muslimah.
As for hadiths, written by man about 100 years after Mohammad's (PBUH) death. hmmm!!!!!!! And we know historically how chauvinisitic and mysogynistic society's were 1400 years ago, 2000 years ago etc etc
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Quran was made for all people until the end of time buddy, check your facts again, plus muslims r suppose to follow the way Muhammad PBUH lived, so if you reject hadith you reject following Muhammad PBUH, if you reject hadith please tell me how you pray.
Your not muslim, admit it, dont pretend to be, I see right thru you.
Calling the Allah swts words and rules of how to live our lives is a backward state of permanent archaic judgement?
r so called modernized muslims better muslims than the ones living at the time or near the time of Muhammad PBUH life?
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Perhaps , I value civil and human rights law that is modern and accepting of it's citizens rights to live as they wish in their love life.
In no way does this make me a non muslim, but a modern tolerant accepting muslimah.
No, in order to be a muslim, a believer...you ARE required to live by the laws that were revealed 1400 years ago.
You become a muslim by believing, there are no two ways about it. Otherwise you're as good as the rest, and are free to go about believing and practicing whatever your petty soul desires, until the the hour comes.
I wasn't talkin about hadith, i showed a quranic view point. But now that you've mentioned hadith let me make a point clear.
Contrary to popular belief hadith recording did not start 100 or 200 years after the Prophet's death. Hadith were first recorded and extensively recorded in the time of the Prophet, by his companions.
The reason why you dont find those works today, is because they were incorporated into hadith literature that came later, such as Muwatta of Malik and Musnad of Ahmad etc.
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the same could be said for cannibalism, incest, regular murder, rape and females killing males after having sex with them.
your argument that it exists in nature is voided by the presence of other practices in nature that we all agree (you would agree to atleast some of the above) are unethical and immoral.
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Hadiths written by men 100 years after Mohammad's PBUH died, so are they truly his words
ANd compared to many muslims and of today who are fundamentalist like christians I am a far, far better muslimah than any fundamentalist in his judgemental ways could ever be.
I am confident I am and so are my dear parents and they are even prouder that I am a GOOD HUMAN . I am spiritual not bread or indoctrinated to be dogmatic with hatred.
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I guess this really shows how good a "Muslimah" you are...
Anyone who boasts his level of faith, or skill or knowledge, or whatever it may be, is one shallow person to say the least.
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FRET WIZARD: Oh save it. There are also homosexuals who are blatent pedophiles as well. Your example is pathetic. Having good or bad homosexuals doesn't change the fact that it's still forbidden by Allah. Who are you to argue with that?
there are HETEROSEXUALS WHO ARE BLATENT PEDOPHILES AS WELL. YOUR EXAMPLE IS TRULY NARROW MINDED AND PATHETICALLY ENSCONCED WITH ALL THAT IS PURILE WITH RELIGIOUS DOGMA.
Who am I to argue? One who is enlightened and not brainwashed in fundamentalist dogma be it christian or islamic.
HUMAN RIGHTS , HUMAN RIGHTS, HUMAN RIGHTS, HUMAN RIGHTS.:) :) :) :)
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Anyone who boasts his level of faith, or skill or knowledge, or whatever it may be, is one shallow person to say the least.
You asked me who I think I am and I responded truthfully and honestly. As a confident muslimah I can't help it if my answer in your mind eviscerated your islamist manhood.
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My apologies. Your reply was so off topic i didnt realize it was in reply to the question i posted.
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Yes they are. Those words were transmitted by his companions to the hadeeth collectors. And his:saw: companions were those about whom Quran itself is a witness. Radi Allaho Anhum Wa Radu Anhu. No one is more trustworthy than them especially for a person who believes in Quran.
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as a muslim?
Hypothetically, Will you be able to tell this ‘as a muslim’ if prophet:saw:would’ve asked you directly?
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Islam is called a dynamic religion for a reason…Because it keeps your intellect constantly in motion…
You are right…I did accept lesbianism as OK, but that was before I had the latest knowledge…
According to my latest knowledge, lesbianism is Haram and hence forbidden…
I guess you missed a couple of my previous threads in which I did mention this…
So what I wrote about lesbianism before can be considered null and void…
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This in no way makes you a Muslimah…Mulimahs live by a code of law and that is the code of Islam…And the code of Islam abhors, despises and forbids homosexuality…
Your ‘tolerance’ is nothing more than your wilful breaking of the code of law…And those who break the code of Islam are called Kuffar…Meaning, they are not Muslims…
A person who breaks the law is called a criminal…Similarly anyone who breaks a tenet of Islam is called a Kafir…
I read in a post by you that you are a far better Muslimah than a judgemental person…
Nothing could be farther from the truth…
Ignorance has a habit of making its patient think that he has knowledge and he is better than others…Knowledge has a way making its followers think that they are ignorant…
The more knowledge a person has, the more ignorant he feels because he keeps thinking that his knowledge lacks so many things…
The more ignorance a person has the more knowledgable he feels because he keeps thinking that there is nothing more that this world can teach him…
Judge the words you spoke…Do they seem to you as if coming from someone who is a far better Muslimah with knowledge about Islam? Or is your ‘far better’ knowledge based on what you yourself think is correct even if it is against Islam…
If you think that you possess knowledge far better than any judegmental Muslim, then you must surely be better than the Quran and all the Prophets put together…For they kept asking and praying to God to take away their ignorance and make them better…
But you seem to be better than them…Surely other ignorant Muslims like myself have a lot to learn about Islam from someone who is a ‘far better’ Muslim than others…
So please…Teach us more about Islam…Like, can we now eat pork and drink alcohol? After all, we are not hurting anyone…What does your knowledge say? Please teach us…
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People will be blind to believe, but gays will rot in hell.