I’m a natural born heartthrob without the need to wear shiny polished shoes, fair & lovely, geeky suits and trying to act all modern in everything I say and do<<<
shouldn't have posted your pic if you wanted people to believe this.
thanks,
hunkyhunk.
pagaldeewani read my post again I said necessity is a different matter and no where did I say that women should not be educated or taught about the outside world, but these things can be done whilst segregated.
Gays and lesbians don’t exist in mixed societies? Give me a break, America and England are full of them.
I was in Pakistan I visited Attock and the Northern areas and didn’t have any problems and when I was in Lahore I’ve had my bum pinched by men on numerous occasions, now who’s the gay one?
I’ve had a lot of girls say “Hayaa is in the heart, it’s not about wearing Hijaab” I’m sorry but that’s a ridiculous excuse, Hayaa is both inner and outer, one without the other is incomplete or useless.
a_bad_hair_cut why don’t you post your pics mate and we’ll see how good looking you are, I’m sexy and you all know it, that pic was a year or two old,now I’m so more hunkier than you ever can be, even with all the posh Urdu and fair &lovely crèmes you probably use.
a_bad_hair_cut why don’t you post your pics mate and we’ll see how good looking you are, <<<
dude, chuck the napaak intention out of your mind, doesn't look good on a khandaani boy.
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pagaldeewani read my post again I said necessity is a different matter and no where did I say that women should not be educated or taught about the outside world, but these things can be done whilst segregated.
Gays and lesbians don?t exist in mixed societies? Give me a break, America and England are full of them.
I was in Pakistan I visited Attock and the Northern areas and didn?t have any problems and when I was in Lahore I?ve had my bum pinched by men on numerous occasions, now who?s the gay one?
I?ve had a lot of girls say ?Hayaa is in the heart, it?s not about wearing Hijaab? I?m sorry but that?s a ridiculous excuse, Hayaa is both inner and outer, one without the other is incomplete or useless.
a_bad_hair_cut why don?t you post your pics mate and we?ll see how good looking you are, I?m sexy and you all know it, that pic was a year or two old,now I?m so more hunkier than you ever can be, even with all the posh Urdu and fair &lovely crèmes you probably use.
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well, think whatever u wanna think, I wont correct you, cuz who have been blinded by their own opinions can't hear anyone out and you are one of em. And truely plz don't compare scarf ladies with those who do have sharam and haya in their heart and eyes.
To Mr Ashti,
I see that you are very young, THere is still time yet for you. A question for you: do you plan to live and work in America? If so, you will find yourself in much trouble one day with the views that you are expressing. If you are fortunate enough to get a college education, the professional world here is rife with females. One of which may be your boss. They wear skirts (oh MY!!!!) , they tell you what to do and they determine whether you get a raise or not. You will find yourself working with females. Your colleagues that you are in direct competition with for promotions etc. You may have to resport to depending upon them to complete a project assigned to you. All the while, if you display any contempt or disrespect you will be fired. That will follow you for the rest of your life, so your professional career in the US of A would effectively be over. These are the types of things you need to consider - thats what I meant by the use of "when in rome...."
Ashti, you had your backside pinched in Pakistan by men? 
With that sort of experiences I think these self proclaimed khaandaanis should lock up their boys too!
Femme, I’m wondering what Ashti did to invite such a pinching.
Didn't you see what a hunk he was??? Don't tell me u missed the picture! Your loss Mehnaz! When you have killer looks like that you get all the pinches you can get and then a few more.
imagine how my butt must feel. It's almost blue in color from all the pinching. :(
With that smiley I hope you know your butt from your face :p
both are equally inviting. Want to have a look?
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our girls go to female only Islamic schools, they wear proper Hijaab when leaving the house, don't have male friends etc.
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and your boys?
IMO,
It depends on what life you want for your daughtes and sons, etc. You can be "izzatdar" and shareef while living in a mixed society and having daughters who aren't freaked out by talking to a guy. Especially if your daughters are going to choose professions in which they will have to interact with men AS WELL as people of different cultures to suceed...
Mama of 3 I agree with you regarding the when in rome, I don't think there's anything in Islam that says speaking respectfully with men and women is wrong... I think parents of daughters who raise them as if they were in Pakistan do a diservice, in pakistan, with the large extended family and schools girls at least get some of the social skills/opportunities there, however in the west, if parent's don't allow them that, there is no option in the home either... I'm really impressed with parents who with their daughters came up with solutions to allow their daughters to participate in life in America i.e. sports (got the schools to find long sleeved/long pant versions of the uniforms), etc. Either way as my mama said, she raised me with certain values and outlook, and she knows whwere I go, whomever I meet, I will have them.
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both are equally inviting. Want to have a look?
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Yes siree. The face first please.
yes a b h c. lets see a real pic 
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*Originally posted by a_bad_hair_cut: *
a_bad_hair_cut why don’t you post your pics mate and we’ll see how good looking you are, <<<
dude, chuck the napaak intention out of your mind, doesn't look good on a khandaani boy.
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Napaak intention? I'm not into other blokes mate.
Why’s everyone getting so uneasy anyway?
You think our values/morals are backward/outdated I think you don’t have any.
We’re even.
:p
wanna make a quick buck?
I’ve heard they are making a new video for the song Baby Got Butt…God gifted people like urself you apply…
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*Originally posted by Mamaof3: *
To Mr Ashti,
I see that you are very young, THere is still time yet for you. A question for you: do you plan to live and work in America? If so, you will find yourself in much trouble one day with the views that you are expressing. If you are fortunate enough to get a college education, the professional world here is rife with females. One of which may be your boss. They wear skirts (oh MY!!!!) , they tell you what to do and they determine whether you get a raise or not. You will find yourself working with females. Your colleagues that you are in direct competition with for promotions etc. You may have to resport to depending upon them to complete a project assigned to you. All the while, if you display any contempt or disrespect you will be fired. That will follow you for the rest of your life, so your professional career in the US of A would effectively be over. These are the types of things you need to consider - thats what I meant by the use of "when in rome...."
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Mamaof3, its okay for Ashti to talk to women and everything. Whats not okay is for "his" women to do the same.
So what do you people expect us to do? Give our girls the freedom Punjabi and Muhajir girls have? I don’t think so.
I don’t hate women, I believe us men should treat women like princesses and they should be educated and ‘introduced’ to the outside world just in case the necessity to work outside the home arises but this could be done whilst practicing segregation. I do believe that the best place for a woman is her home and that’s her primary responsibility, I personally think we should provide for all their needs but if she really wants to work then that should be from behind the veil.
Sometimes men and women have to interact due to necessity, that’s a different matter all together.
I am proud that we have segregation in our culture, I don’t care if you’re going to call me narrow minded, backward, extremist, sexist, oppressor or whatever else.
We all know what the girls of Posh Punjabi-Muhajir family’s turn out like because of your open mindedness, forwardness, moderation and modernism.
Not all but most I have come across are the most slutiest whores you can ever imagine, whether it’s the schoolyard or work. Jo milay Sikh ho ya phir Musalman, kata ho ya ankata sab se marwaa leti hein and what pisses me of most is some have the guts to wear a Hijaab and do all this.
In fact just yesterday I saw a Hijaabi girl from this sort of background meet up with a 40yish year old man during lunch break in a neighbouring town at McDonalds, they met there and then drove of in his car and my buddy asked her afterwards who the guy was and she told us about how they met online and the explicit details of what they did, he asked her for a blowjob and she said “why don’t you ask your wife?” and he replied “if she gave me one why’d I be here with you?” and she ended up giving him one.
At my brothers weekend work place there’s so many Azaad background girls like this who flirt with any guy and trying getting shag during lunch break in a nearby field.
In Lahore these sorts of girls are so flirty, tarty and slutty sab karti hein, I had so many girls trying to chat me up, even in a Sufi Islamic college in Lahore where one of my friends studies most of the girls are like that. Ab to Netcafe bhi mil chukey hein shehri larkiyoun ko, mazey karo, pitty they’re so ugly and don’t know how to snog properly lol.
I only have two brothers and no female sibling but I know how I’m going to raise my daughters if I have any and I keep and eye out for my female cousins.
At the end of the day you’re just jealous we know the score and what’s right for our families but you’ve lost all control or are loosing it rapidly.