Global warming cause of intense hurricanes?

The Republicans don’t want to hear this and sadly will just dismiss it.

NEW YORK - In recorded history, two storms as powerful as Hurricanes Rita and Katrina have never hit the United States in one season. A coincidence, perhaps, but scientists say ocean temperature could be big factor.
“If you think of a hurricane like a car,” explains NASA’s Dr. David Adamec, “there are a lot of parts that keep it going, but the sea surface temperature and the heat that is provided by the ocean, that is the gasoline that fuels it.”

In the Gulf of Mexico, there is a lot of fuel right now.

To measure sea temperature, researchers use buoys that transmit readings directly, as well as remote sensing satellites. Those readings have found record temperatures in the gulf and Atlantic Ocean this year.

“The sun was having an easy time reaching the sea surface and just warmed up the water,” says Adamec, “and just made it ripe for a lot of strong intense hurricanes this year.”

The big question is will the trend continue in future years?

Scientists say one season, even like this one, cannot indicate anything about climate change. But those same measurements show that in the past 50 years the oceans have gotten one degree warmer. That may not sound like much, but the experts say it is a lot of energy.

Indeed, recent studies show that, worldwide, the number of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes has doubled with that one degree change and that’s a source of worry.“At the moment we’ve only warmed up one,” says Dr. Stephen Schnieder, a climatologist at Stanford’s Institute for International Studies. “What happens when we warm up three or five degrees — which is projected in the next several decades to the end of the century?”

It’s global warming that many experts say results partly from humans releasing greenhouse gases — possibly creating even more violent storms in the future.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9429241/

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There is uncertainty, however, about how well the models account for all the inputs that might affect hurricane strength.

“In the models, an increase in sea surface temperature could make more intense systems,” said Philip Klotzbach, who was not involved in the present work. “But the models do not account for changes in wind patterns that might tend to tear apart hurricanes.”

Klotzbach said that the effect of global warming on hurricanes may end up being small. He said it is hard to notice any difference because the “signal gets swamped by year-to-year variability.”

According to Chris Landsea of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory, there is evidence for natural swings between high and low hurricane activity that extend for 25 to 40 years.

“The last 10 years have been busy for the U.S. — similar to what we experienced between the 1920s and 1960s,” Landsea said.

He thought that global warming could have an impact on hurricanes, but he quoted one study that predicted only a 5 percent change in wind speeds over 80 years due to increases in heat-trapping greenhouse gases.

“It doesn’t mean there is zero effect,” he said. “But that’s hardly measurable.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8245668/

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Heard it on NPR show that these hurricanes, part of a recurring cycle, will continue for another 20 years. Also, these hurricanes are not caused by global warming.

I'll dig it up if I have time.

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Well, I'm no scientist and will take any scientific consensus over my opinion on the matter but one thing is common sense though. If temperature rises so will hot air. And lots of hot air will do lots of bad things.

Now, there could be multiple sources of rise in temp. One is global warming, sure. But wasn't there some kinda theory that sun is nearing earth on yearly basis? Like few inches and one day it'd be at a spear's length to earth? Imagine the hot air at spear's length.

But as far as global warming is concerned, I think we should make love not hot air.

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large chunks of ice from south pole (the size of rhode island) have melted away into the ocean because of the global warming. but there is no conclusive evidence linking global warming and rise in the frequency of hurricanes. this i heard from one of dudes who looked smart and was a scientist/meterologist at a university.

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But that would mean placing restrictions on corporate polluters and gasp throwing some real money at developing alternative energy sources. Why do that when you can throw money at these polluters and oil producers’ via tax breaks?

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UTD, leave the republicans alone man. Worry about your own fart. :hoonh:

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i m not to sure about the global warming issue,

how do you explain the hurican that hit the same area that Rita is going to hit, in 1912 (approx) there were no global warming issue's at that time,

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Unfortunately Roman the Republicans are stifling my environment by cradling those who have major gassing problems.

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Hurricanes have been around a long time before Humans were but is the frequency of them occurring and their strength related to global warming?

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^i dont like republicans myself, but I dont see the connection between global warming and republicans? Please state in a few senteces, preferrably bullet points. Thanks.

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dopie, it's cause UTD bhai here thinks that democrates have more environment conscious policies and republicans don't. On top of that republicans tend to be taxan oil tycons giving leeways to their buddies around the world.

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Republicans under the neo-conservative movement favor 2 major groups - big business and religious right wingnuts.

Industry does not like regulation by the government - especially by EPA and OSHA, so they have put big cash into getting the repubs to stop regulating. And that is exactly what this Bush administration has done. Two years ago the Bush administration went so far to undermine their own government scientists’ research into climate change in order to play down the impact of global warming, I believe I posted about that then as well.

(it was actually Spoon who posted the article from 2 years ago)
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=115302&highlight=climate

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And you believe that the religious right wing nuts and big businesses are the sole reasons why the frequency of hurricanes has increased? Because of the what Bush did two years ago?Doesnt that seem a little far-fetched? I mean do you really want to blame a president that has been in office for only a five years to have contributed that heavily to a sudden upsurge of hurricanes?

Fact is the frequency of hurricanes could be a result of either natural variability or human fault. And if it is human fault, then simply blaming the republicans -- especially Bush -- severely marginalizes your credibility.

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Good point…actually the 1900 hurricane…

I think…besides human made CO2 emissions…solar winds also play even a bigger role in the global warming…facts shows us that global warming is constantly increasing…but sometimes its at random…like major or minor calamities…

For a naked eye…our sun is beautifully looks round…but if you see it closely with some equipment…you will see lots of clouds on sun jutting out hundred of thousands of miles at certain places…so when the sun-earth position is aligned to those solar clouds/winds…we have some extra warming on earth…especially on waters because we have an execellent moon too :slight_smile: …these things may cause more devastating hurricanes than normal…sometimes…

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UTD: Good God man!!! Don't you ever give it a rest? The water temperature has gone up 1 degree in 50 years. Do you think the temperature was going down during the 8 Clinton years and that Bush and the GOP made it go back up over the last 5 years?

Let's look at a slightly longer time line here. There are some positive aspects to global warming. If it weren't for global warming we'd still be living in the Ice Age.

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MV, but you're not factoring the wrath of God factor due to sheer presence of Bush on the presidential throne and republicans as general governing body. UTD is smarter. He's counting that in too.

Republicans have pissed off God during past 5 years and this reflecting in in the hot waters.

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The point is global warming has increased at a faster rate due to humans, you can either support polices that allow emissions and polluters to go unchecked or you can support polices that regulate what is spewed into the air.

Republicans in general are not for such regulates, that is my point. Republicans did not start Global warming, nor did I ever say they did, pay attention my little monkeys.

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We did pay attention, tinfoilhat. And, no we are not claiming you claimed global warming was "started" by republicans. Dont get your boxers in a twist.

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“little monkeys” vs “panties in a twist”. You guys are plain simple sick. Go hump a pole or something. :rolleyes: