I hope you include your HUSBAND in making those decisions! :) LOL....yes, it's great that you and your HUSBAND discuss and plan all this out. But as clearly shown by the example of your "friend and her husband"....unfortunately not all couples do that. And when many other couples choose not to do that and end up on public assitance....people like me, you, your husbnad, and other taxpayers end up footing their bill b/c they chose not do have a plan at all.
Back to topic.... :)
He looks after few things, I look after few things. Health, I look after. And health is not the only thing offered to them actually, they have relocation, CME, life insurance, phone etc. Its pretty simple straight forward. We paid a lawyer 400 dollars for an hour consultation looking at his contract. I thought that was a major waste of money. It was so simple that it took lawyer just 15 mins to go over it. But point is I know how things work with doctors and with doctors who are doing research. My husband works full time doing research and part time as an IM doc.
If US has been a good place to live for last 200+ years then why not after 18+ years. :@: It is our job to keep it that way. What makes you a skeptic ?
By my statement mirch, i meant that people should take pride in their country and nation rather than chasing after green cards. its quite despicable
They can live in US , UK , Japan and still be proud of their roots , why is it not possible ? People can go and live if that country accepts them and they like/love to live there.
If someone goes and lives in some other country it does not mean they do not take pride in their home country and nation. If someone decides to leave their home country and go live somewhere else it is not an easy decision to make, but sometime you have to make difficult choices.
Did not sahaba migrate to Habasha because the living conditions in their home country became unlivable . When things improved most of them went back to their home country.
If the living conditions in home countries of those who left improve they will move back in a jiffy.
Being a temp, or an intern is different, but you get compensated some way: a stipend, course credit etc. Additionally unless your in school or have someone to support you (i.e parents) why would you work for free? I am saying any FULL TIME Permanent position does offer benefits. i know people who go to school as reasearch assistants full time and they do have benefits.
In response to your comment about if "When you get a job they explain you all they are offering and if benefits is not part of their package what can you do" when you get a job, it would be common sense to ask what comes in the "package" vacation days, benefits, etc. and I would think anyone that is married would make it a point to make sure at least they have health benefits.
which bring me to another point if this guy has no benefits/ no money then when he gets sick the rest of us are paying for it with our hard earned cash? that makes me sick, not only will potentially his wife "free load" off the hard earned tax dollars of americans but him too...
No... It depends on the job. I graduated in HR .. so no that's not true. If I work 40 hours but I am a temp with a company. I am working full time but I get no benefits. If I do unpaid/minimum pay research but devote my 40 hours doing research, should the company legally offer me benefits. NO. When you get a job they explain you all they are offering and if benefits is not part of their package what can you do.
Being a temp, or an intern is different, but you get compensated some way: a stipend, course credit etc. Additionally unless your in school or have someone to support you (i.e parents) why would you work for free? I am saying any FULL TIME Permanent position does offer benefits. i know people who go to school as reasearch assistants full time and they do have benefits.
In response to your comment about if "When you get a job they explain you all they are offering and if benefits is not part of their package what can you do" when you get a job, it would be common sense to ask what comes in the "package" vacation days, benefits, etc. and I would think anyone that is married would make it a point to make sure at least they have health benefits.
which bring me to another point if this guy has no benefits/ no money then when he gets sick the rest of us are paying for it with our hard earned cash? that makes me sick, not only will potentially his wife "free load" off the hard earned tax dollars of americans but him too...
Thanks for the lovely response. I am pretty sick of explaining again and again. I've placed a simple question here, please stick to that and stop assuming things. I did get some good responses and I seek no further advice.
If he does not have insurance, and can't afford to go buy insurance, he is putting himself in danger, but he will put his wife and kid in danger if something goes wrong, or if after birth there is something that needs help, they may get care but the ability to go for the best possible care is not there.
I am not going to argue anything that has been argued in this thread, but looking at all the pros and cons, challenges and risks, if this was someone close to me, I would advise them to just have the baby in Pakistan, and if he can't be there due to work, you know its tough, but life is tough, you make do with what you have and you make rational decisions that balance everything. In this case health services, prenatal and postnatal care, any specialist services if needed, and any possible challenges with future immigration are many gotchas that simply have to be managed.
a friend of mine had her baby here for the citizenship. her logic was it will help him with his education when he's older, and rather than her waiting for immigration, at least this way it'll be a surefire thing that he's a canadian citizen. she paid for the birth, the hospital stay and any other expenses they had out of pocket. she has since applied for immigration and is now waiting for her papers to arrive.
They can live in US , UK , Japan and still be proud of their roots , why is it not possible ? People can go and live if that country accepts them and they like/love to live there.
If someone goes and lives in some other country it does not mean they do not take pride in their home country and nation. If someone decides to leave their home country and go live somewhere else it is not an easy decision to make, but sometime you have to make difficult choices.
Did not sahaba migrate to Habasha because the living conditions in their home country became unlivable . When things improved most of them went back to their home country.
If the living conditions in home countries of those who left improve they will move back in a jiffy.
Im speaking of the specific case I know and others like it. Where it has become a status symbol of sorts to hold a green card in certain peoples minds. The girl I speak of comes from an affluent family, living conditions for them in Pakistan are very bearable believe me :)
Im speaking of the specific case I know and others like it. Where it has become a status symbol of sorts to hold a green card in certain peoples minds. The girl I speak of comes from an affluent family, living conditions for them in Pakistan are very bearable believe me :)
I know what you are saying and can relate to it. Some wealthy people are moving out of Pakistan for security reasons and others want their kids to have GC so that they could get a good rishta.
I know what you are saying and can relate to it. Some wealthy people are moving out of Pakistan for security reasons and others want their kids to have GC so that they could get a good rishta.
and many other reasons.... like having multiple options for future for their kids, education, etc
Did you read about the nigerian woman who came frm nigeria gave birth to triplets free.. but is frm a filthy rich family in Lagos.... The problem with the UK is if u turn up at the doors of a&e they cant refuse u treatment BUT its also opened doors for 'foreigners' to come and abuse the system, the NHS recently published a report on the millions owed to them die to foreign visitors using facilities here..
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Well at least they make people pay for the medical expenses in the US. In the UK it's all at the expense of the taxpayer and a huge factor towards the current overstretched resources of the NHS. But that's a whole other thread :)
Not sure if you have had much experience with visitors trying to give birth in the uk down your way but I have a tale to tell.My neighbour applied for her sister in laws visa whilst she was pregnant. When she got here they called the local GP to arrange a midwife appointment. The midwife visited them and during routine paperwork asked for immigration status. When they said visitor she told them they should look onto private healthcare or returning to Pakistan as she wouldn't be able to treat her and as far as she knew the hospital would bill them in the region of 11-22K UK pounds to give birth in the Uk as a visitor.Needless to say they sent the girl packing.I still chuckle at their belief the baby would gain child tax credit etc for being born in the UK.
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Thing is, its all legal!
It is our job to keep it that way. What makes you a skeptic ?