Ok this is your original post of which you are so much proud at. Okay lets see how great are your “valid facts”.
great view, enough to bring peace back on earth.
This is none of your bussiness.
Some mentaly retarded jerks have an habit to show superority which is infact inferiority. Better luck next time
Baby shower a.k.a ghod barai is an occassion where family members of a girl greet her child and celebrate the occassion with sweets and happiness. I dont see anything wrong in it.
Try to respect women. Women leads to successful nation, true. How will they make it if these kind of people keep on empowering them with that baseless propaganda. First have a heart.
Learn to talk practicle..this would happen if that happens..!! blah blah
Here nobody is asking for the predictions and i dont see any invitation given to you to predict the future of muslim families. Where is the so-called “logic” of yours in this quote.
And if you call this post very stable and loaded with valuable facts then mate you lost it. You are already exhausted.
Now I read all the replies in the first page of this thread. Congratulations! and enjoy whatever you do in these days of happiness and joy. May Allah be with you and your child. I didn't mean to hurt anyone in personal. All I wrote was for society in general, and I don't want to bitter others happiness.
Man you changes a lot. Anyway nice to see this. Same as me.
pakistanis ka apna toh koi culture hay nahin...55 years say hinduoan ki copy kar rahay thay...ab west ki copy kar rahay hayn. instead of following the way of life given to muslims by Islam, by the Prophet (PBUH), by Sunnah, by Shariah. If a gaud bharai ceremony was sooo important, the best human (PBUH) to ever walk the face of this earth would have surely held it for his children and grand-children.
Why not welcome a new addition to the muslim ummah by keeping it islamic? i'm sure Allah will be more happy with you if you shun non-islamic traditions. and MAYBE if Allah is more happy with u..he MAY shower his blessings on you..which will do you more good than making your relatives happy by holding a baby shower.
and remember...islam teaches modesty and simplicity of life.
there are numerous fatwas on shunning non-islamic traditions...namely mayoon, mehndi, baby showers...but who are WE to follow fatwas given by "Scholars"..afterall..we are all scholar enough :-).
Why not welcome a new addition to the muslim ummah by keeping it islamic? i'm sure Allah will be more happy with you if you shun non-islamic traditions. and MAYBE if Allah is more happy with u..he MAY shower his blessings on you..which will do you more good than making your relatives happy by holding a baby shower.
and remember...islam teaches modesty and simplicity of life.
there are numerous fatwas on shunning non-islamic traditions...namely mayoon, mehndi, baby showers...but who are WE to follow fatwas given by "Scholars"..afterall..we are all scholar enough :-).
Lets just forget the label "Baby Shower" for a minute, and will one of you preaching type folks tell me what is soooo islamically wrong with receiving gifts? People are gonna give gifts anyways, so big deal if a simple party was thrown with food and people invited over to enjoy and do gup shup.
Your just blindly associating that oh we took this concept from hindus/amreekans whatever, but wat is so wrong with the concept??????
Should we stop giving eid gifts/eidis...because oh the kafir give gifts. Seriously give me some explanation that makes sense.
an explanation in the light of islam made no sense to you??? if you want a proper explanation, go to a good scholar and ask him. but be prepared to listen and accept his explanation. ppl on GS are just gonna explain to you based on their own knowledge and views and beliefs.
u can forget the label "Baby Shower" to pacify your desire to hold one...but it still is a baby shower...and still is an un-islamic tradition.
normally people will just come to your place, give the child gifts..and thats it...thats not called a baby shower. also, giving gifts is a practice encouraged by islam. passing fruit and nuts into the mommys lap..is not an islamic practice. holding an extravagent party, wasting money on an extravagent parties/decor/food...is unislamic.
Allah has blessed you with this child, why make Him angry when He is blessing you.
Um , i'm not super positive on it, but even traditional Catholics didnt' really approve of or believe in baby showers. Their after-birth ceremony is the Baptism.
fews years back we never had baby showers but now it has become a norm for most house holds. At first it used to be just very close family members, and now it is friends, far relatives and acquaintances...I do not like the whole idea of propaganding the pregnancy ...celebration should be done after baby is born.
WIPER Munnay! My message is conveyed, now you can cry as much as you can. People agreed and disagreed to my point of view, and thats normal. Only you are crying, so let it be. You like it 'personal' but I don't so carry on, we are loving it.
I don't know very much about the ghod barai, but a baby shower is simply to help a new mother gather all of the items (showering the baby with gifts) that she will need for a baby. Usually a group of friends will get together to purchase a pack and play, stroller or some other big ticket item, and everyone will give baby outfits, bottles, and other gifts. It has nothing to do with any religion.
I think the main reason that gifts were traditionally given after the birth is in part because of the high infant and child mortality rates - I believe it used to be somewhere around 1 in 5 babies either died before birth or within their first year of life.
We should forbid those things that clearly go again Islam, such as any superstitious customs- but other than the fruit and nut business, I can't see any reason why a normal baby shower should be forbidden.
I thought you might be an intelligent person and you’ll get back with some sensible things this time. :halo:
You just made an ass of yourself. generally when ppl get outta words they start shedding these lame excuses. Keep your relegious hatred inside and avoid outbursting in a public forum.
From next time try to refrain yourself from posting in a logical discussion when you dont have sensible matter to defend.