Re: Ghilam - The Handsome Youths of Paradise
^ thanks for adding to a spiritual debate. Sounds like you and heaven have a date! May your blessings of sex be bountiful and prove to be of worthy your worship!
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Ok I think I have had it... I have explained that Ghilmaan is used for children in the Quran. Why is it so hard to believe??? Are none of you parents, or want to be parents? It is the most wonderful feeling in the world!!
Why does heaven have to be one big rave with hunks and babes and booze and sex??? What a mockery we have made of The Creator!
PS: O'ramyssysIX, this is from the chapter on Mary:19-7 (same thing in the chapter on the House of Amram:3-40)
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you forgetting that those who go to heaven need to drink milk or something like that that will make you forget who you are
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Muslims believe that the greatest reward in Paradise is the Deedaar or Darshan of Allaah, being in His presence.
We will have new bodies in Paradise so other pleasures which also exist here are also mentioned/described but we can't truly comprehend them, they'll be different from on earth, the Prophet Muhammed PBUH said that "God, the Exalted, has said: 'I have prepared for my righteous slaves what no eye has seen, no ear has heard, and the mind of no man has conceived.'"
Christianity might see sex as ungodly/dirty/carnal/lowly but in Islam it's almost a form of worship if it's with ones spouse.
The Imam I spoke to said nothing that is forbidden in this world will be allowed over there such as gay-sex or pork. Sex with ones wife is allowed here and it will be a blessing there, Intoxicants are forbidden here so they wont exist there either, only non-intoxicating wine, what is forbidden in the Koran is Khamr (Intoxicant).
A bit silly of me to hope for "give us this day our daily twink...".
Thats true......that life will be different from this life, but I cannot imagine people doing sexual intercourse even with their spouses there, Jannah is a pure place and sex is a dirty act even if you do it legally(nikaah)......
Allah knows best.
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Why does heaven have to be one big rave with hunks and babes and booze and sex??? What a mockery we have made of The Creator! )
I agree.
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And round about them will (serve) boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls. (Koran 76:19)
Did you want the ans of your wish from the Imam?
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Hareem that's ridiculous, you need psychological help sister, sex is beautiful if it's not fornication/adultery.
I'll agree with you that it was wishful thinking on my part that the servant-boys will more than servants (I got that idea from a Christian owned anti-Islam hate site, there's a surpirise! I should have known it wont be true).
Sex with ones spouse however will exist in Paradise, other wise what is the point of marriage in Paradise? Sex with ones spouse is a blessing from Almighty Allaah. Islaam says sex with ones spouse is Sadaqah (charity) and reeps rewards, would something dirty be described as a form of worship?
Sex is a beautiful act of love towards ones spouse, if it was something dirty and just for reproduction Islaam wouldn't reccommend foreplay ("gentle words and kisses").
The Prophet Muhammed PBUH and the other Prophets PBUT got married, Prophet Jesus PBUH will get married when he descends back to earth, would they engage in something lowly?
The idea that sex is dirty, evil or lowly is something Muslims got from Christians, Christians take having boyfriends/girlfriends and children outside of wedlock very lightly yet on the other hand some of their clergy wont enter into a legitimate marriage.
Of course 'Aden (Eden) wont be a great big orgy and people wont engage in sex in the open in front of everybody like at a frat party, lol, people will have their privacy in Paradise too.
One of the charecteristics of the heavenly Nymphs (Hoor al-'Ayn) is that they will be pure, chaste and modest, not like the kinky birds at the frat parties.
Having said all that it's only Non-Muslims who assume that the biggest reward Muslims look forward to is "pleasures of the flesh", Muslims don't follow Islaam solely for these things, they are not the highlight of Paradise for us and they wont be like the "pleasures of the flesh" on earth because they are largely beyond comprehension, they are a gift of Allaah's grace, love and kindness upon his obedient servants and every Muslims hopes for them but our main aim is the pleasure of Allaah and the Peace that comes with that [Islaam literally mean 'peace in submission (to God)'] and being in His Divine Presence and "Seeing" Him in Paradise, this is the greatest blessing/reward of Paradise, this and the other rewards are beyond our comprehension, some of them have been described but they'll be different than how we percieve them on earth.
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Did you want the ans of your wish from the Imam?
Well yeah I was kind of hoping for a few Latinos/Hispanics, a few Gujjis and definately a cross between Caucasian and Oriental.
But oh well, no matter, I swing both ways so I'll gladly make do with the female Hoor al-'Ayn ("large eyed nymphs", and by large eyes i don't mean potruding like hammer-heads or black-moors but rather "doe-eyed").
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Hareem that's ridiculous, you need psychological help sister, sex is beautiful if it's not fornication/adultery.
I'll agree with you that it was wishful thinking on my part that the servant-boys will more than servants (I got that idea from a Christian owned anti-Islam hate site, there's a surpirise! I should have known it wont be true).
Sex with ones spouse however will exist in Paradise, other wise what is the point of marriage in Paradise? Sex with ones spouse is a blessing from Almighty Allaah. Islaam says sex with ones spouse is Sadaqah (charity) and reeps rewards, would something dirty be described as a form of worship?
Sex is a beautiful act of love towards ones spouse, if it was something dirty and just for reproduction Islaam wouldn't reccommend foreplay ("gentle words and kisses").
The Prophet Muhammed PBUH and the other Prophets PBUT got married, Prophet Jesus PBUH will get married when he descends back to earth, would they engage in something lowly?
The idea that sex is dirty, evil or lowly is something Muslims got from Christians, Christians take having boyfriends/girlfriends and children outside of wedlock very lightly yet on the other hand some of their clergy wont enter into a legitimate marriage.
Of course 'Aden (Eden) wont be a great big orgy and people wont engage in sex in the open in front of everybody like at a frat party, lol, people will have their privacy in Paradise too.
One of the charecteristics of the heavenly Nymphs (Hoor al-'Ayn) is that they will be pure, chaste and modest, not like the kinky birds at the frat parties.
Having said all that it's only Non-Muslims who assume that the biggest reward Muslims look forward to is "pleasures of the flesh", Muslims don't follow Islaam solely for these things, they are not the highlight of Paradise for us and they wont be like the "pleasures of the flesh" on earth because they are largely beyond comprehension, they are a gift of Allaah's grace, love and kindness upon his obedient servants and every Muslims hopes for them but our main aim is the pleasure of Allaah and the Peace that comes with that [Islaam literally mean 'peace in submission (to God)'] and being in His Divine Presence and "Seeing" Him in Paradise, this is the greatest blessing/reward of Paradise, this and the other rewards are beyond our comprehension, some of them have been described but they'll be different than how we percieve them on earth.
Ok sister I agree with you that I need psychological help...from you....LOL
Aisa lagta hai aap abhi abhi jannat se ho ker aaien hain.
What is the evidence for your statement according to Quran and Sunnah?
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Sister? Is taboo a sister?
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Well I wish a heaven where everthing of my life (except some of the bad ones) is repeated time and again.
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The idea of kids being servants and referred to as having everlasting youth sounds pedophilic.
Servants? Pedophilic? If you notice, the mention of serving+waiting is usually given in brackets... it is introduced artifically by our brilliant expositionists! Can you not see that? How low are we going to stoop? Do you have children? If not then wait till you do and repeat the above sentence in your mind!
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Ok sister I agree with you that I need psychological help...from you....LOL Aisa lagta hai aap abhi abhi jannat se ho ker aaien hain. What is the evidence for your statement according to Quran and Sunnah?
I'm not a sister, I have Marilyn Monroe as my display pic simply because I use to fancy her when I was like 9, lol.
I heard a Hadith about the bit about sex with ones wife being Sadaqah and also the bit about gentle words and kisses with ones wife.
Islam see's spouses as each others garments. The Prophet PBUH had relations with his wives, if it was something lowly would he not have been a celibate monk? Once one of his disciples said he will never marry and the Prophet PBUH told him off for it saying marriage is part of his Tradition.
Isn't there a verse in the Koran which says Allaah did not choose monasticism for the people, they invented it.
Why would Allaah forbid or view negatively something so beautiful?
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if guys get 72 hottie virgins to bang bang in jannat, girls should get 72 hottie boys to bang bang too. ha
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I'm not a sister, I have Marilyn Monroe as my display pic simply because I use to fancy her when I was like 9, lol.
I heard a Hadith about the bit about sex with ones wife being Sadaqah and also the bit about gentle words and kisses with ones wife.
Islam see's spouses as each others garments. The Prophet PBUH had relations with his wives, if it was something lowly would he not have been a celibate monk? Once one of his disciples said he will never marry and the Prophet PBUH told him off for it saying marriage is part of his Tradition.
Isn't there a verse in the Koran which says Allaah did not choose monasticism for the people, they invented it.
Why would Allaah forbid or view negatively something so beautiful?
Oh so you're a guy.....LOL
ok brother I accept and agree with the ahadith you quoted but these ahadith only talk about sexual relation between husband and wife in this world and I'm looking for the ayah or hadith that supports the idea of worldly type of sexual intercourse in Jannah.
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if guys get 72 hottie virgins to bang bang in jannat, girls should get 72 hottie boys to bang bang too. ha
I couldnt stop laughing at this comment.
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if guys get 72 hottie virgins to bang bang in jannat, girls should get 72 hottie boys to bang bang too. ha
Those who are fortunate enough to enter Paradise (including women) will have anything they desire.
I guess extra wives (i.e. the Hoor al-'Ayn) is specifically mentioned for men because men are by nature polygomous whereas women are usually more monogomously inclined.
PS. Where do you guys get the 72 number from? I've said it before and I'll say it again that the Hoor Al-'Ayn aren't our main attraction for Pradise, for a lot of Muslims they don't even cross their minds, it's mostly you Non-Muslims who I hear harping on about them...
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Sis, the Koran mentions that pious people will be married to the Hoor al-'Ayn and what is the purpose of a spouse if not sexual intercourse 
, I know you women are also good for cooking and cleaning but there’ll be no need for that in Paradise, lol only jkn.
PS. Sorry about being rude earlier on.
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^ok thanks for the reply.....:)
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Those who are fortunate enough to enter Paradise (including women) will have anything they desire.
I guess extra wives (i.e. the Hoor al-'Ayn) is specifically mentioned for men because men are by nature polygomous whereas women are usually more monogomously inclined.
PS. Where do you guys get the 72 number from? I've said it before and I'll say it again that the Hoor Al-'Ayn aren't our main attraction for Pradise, for a lot of Muslims they don't even cross their minds, it's mostly you Non-Muslims who I hear harping on about them...
I was just making fun of the tablinish Islam that uses this 72 number a lot.
Anyway, if I'm fortunate enough to enter Junnat? I didn't know it was about fortune, I think it was about our deeds in this life. That has nothing to do with fortune. Also, I'll get anything that I desire? Even if that is a mass orgy 72 virgins in a hijab + Whisky shots for everyone + Pork Chops for dinner ?