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That is definitely a sin and not allowed.
How do you know?
Sara, there are many people who have studied this issue and say that menstruation does NOT excuse women from praying/fasting, and that the rule to do so is a way to keep women from coming forward and being active in masjid/community life.
I don't know myself, but I do find it hard to believe that it would be a sin to pray/fast during that time. I need some textual evidence -- particularly from the Quran.
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yeah My MIL is a little backwards in tradition she believes that what she says is the ultimate truth. We go to Pakistan yearly for Eid and spend a month or 2 there and during that month if i am on my period she kept saying to me tonight you sleep downstairs don't go to your husband its sinful for a woman to sleep in the same bed as a man at that time. Or if I am on my period and its time for namaz and everyone is sat in the same room she will loudly say "Aisha go upstairs and pray." Not just periods but when I was having my first daughter before i was due she called daily and would say "Don't scream during the labour." "Don't cry." "Don't tell your husband if you start contractions keep them to yourself." Lol i was like hello he is the one who is going to take me to the hospital so how can he not know.
She is very touch about the subject of periods I cannot use the same bathroom as my husband at that time cos its dirty and she even goes as far as to say that during that time I am not allowed to make roti/salaan. I tell her many times my hubby is not a child he is a grown man he knows when the time is and what pads i use etc to which she was shocked and said that I was besharam and she then got my SIL to talk to me about why periods must stay secret
There are hadith that clearly contradict this attitude. It is not your hand that is menstruating, after all. YOU are not dirty.
What silliness.
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which she was shocked and said that I was besharam and she then got my SIL to talk to me about why periods must stay secret
Your MIL is hilarious!!! :) BTW, I'm curious about 2 things. 1) What did you SIL tell you as to why periods must stay secret? 2) What's your hubby's reaction to all this? Gawd....I'm dying to know how your MIL kept it a "secret" from her husband!
As for my family, we also do the "don't ask don't tell" policy. Most of the men in my family are in the medical profession so they're more than familiar with female bodies. They also have enough common sense not to ask! IF we do get asked...let's say by a kid....we usually go with "not feeling well".
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men shouldnt get into this anyway.. simple.
I always got up for fasting but it was not cus mum asked, cus i liked to get up and see the fam. Ofcourse, when I just couldnt get up I'd say I was not feeling well and that was it.
In regards to namaz, sometimes we would pray together... like with my bro and sis, but on days I couldnt, I'd just go to my room. Life shouldnt be made so complicated
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How do you know?
Sara, there are many people who have studied this issue and say that menstruation does NOT excuse women from praying/fasting, and that the rule to do so is a way to keep women from coming forward and being active in masjid/community life.
I don't know myself, but I do find it hard to believe that it would be a sin to pray/fast during that time. I need some textual evidence -- particularly from the Quran.
that's really interseting Sahar. Do let me know if u find something... I'd be keen on keeping all the fasts in that case.
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Thats funny!! ^^
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How do you know?
Sara, there are many people who have studied this issue and say that menstruation does NOT excuse women from praying/fasting, and that the rule to do so is a way to keep women from coming forward and being active in masjid/community life.
I don't know myself, but I do find it hard to believe that it would be a sin to pray/fast during that time. I need some textual evidence -- particularly from the Quran.
What really? thats the first time i have heard that..I guess i cant say i know 100% because I have not read that right out of the quran but recently I heard a lecture on the topic and have read a lot of hadiths and that was the conclusion I came to. I would also love to hear more on the subject from someone who has more knowledge on it.
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^ I'll see if I can dig up the stuff from my college Islam courses.
I'd like to see which Hadith and such you are referring to.
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I just searched on the Internet a while ago and there are some people who believe that it’s okay for women to pray and fast while menstruating…since the Quran doesn’t explicitly state that it’s not allowed. But then that also makes me think that there are other things as well that are not mentioned in the Quran. For example, is it mentioned in the Quran how exactly we should perform namaz? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’ve heard that such details have not been mentioned. BUT…still…for the most part…there is a fairly standard procedure that Muslims the world over follow. Where does one draw the line…regarding which things they should follow based on hadith/sunnah…and which to only follow if they are mentioned in the Quran? And we’re told in the Quran to follow the Prophet SAWS.
I’ve read…according to the Imam in the link below that women are prohibited from fasting and praying because that time of the month is like a hardship for them.
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Rv, I agree. My feeling is that Hadith elaborate on The Quran (as with prayer).
As for the hardship argument, couldn’t one say:
I’m not convinced we do need to pray at that time, but I don’t think the argument that we are not allowed is very strong. I certainly wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s a sin!
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^ What I have heard, and what I personally do, is that you are not supposed to touch Quran or read namaz if and when you haven't performed ablution or wudoo. Since you can't have a wuzu when you have your period or you aren't "paak", such as after having intercourse, you can't touch Quran or read namaz. But, most definitely, you can recite any part of Quran in this duration as long as you aren't making any physical contact with the book itself.
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^ and in terms of keeping roza?
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^ As far as roza is concerned, you are supposed to skip those days. Since you can't keep rozay without reading namaz - or else it's nothing more than simply skipping meals - you can't fast either. HOWEVER, one is supposed to make up for those days later on. My nani used to call this "rozay qaza huye". And, therefore, just like qaza namaz, you have to make up for these skipped days at some point of your life.
I hope I've been coherent with my explanation.
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The reason behind not fasting and not praying is probably not due to hardship on women. There is a passage in Quran, if I remember well, which advises men to not get intimate with women during their periods because they are 'impure.'
Also, excessive non-menstrual bleeding also invalidates fasts/prayers. So, I believe that is the reason.
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I once heard from a scholar that if you accidentally break your fast (like in case of vomiting) you should still go through the day without eating if you can, so others wont know that you dont have rozaa. This is true for both guys and ladies. Not fasting because of period comes pretty much under that logic so is it really a big deal if it is suggested to pretend that you are fasting?
TLK i always like your replies when you explain them so clearly and so easily.
@Sara no its not by FORCE but its just a choice made plus it does come under Haya. Obviously majority of men at home knows about it, but no one talks to you about it. In my family we have only dad n youngest bro, baaqi all are ladies. Still I dont remember anyone skipping the sehri or eating infront of these two men. In Ramadan anyway you are not supposed to eat, so what if you pretend that u are fasting in those days too. to be honest we didnt fast for whole day. water, dates, juice, some fruits we kept putting in our mouths the whole day BUT not infront of dad or bro.
Yes no one read the namaaz, that would be a sin to do. you can easily hide that part.
when you are married and living with husband, its totally different. Still i wont like to eat infront of him as its again not a good thing to do infront of a Rozaadaar. in UAE non-muslims are strictly NOT allowed to eat infront of fasting Muslims during this month.
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before shaadi my mom had a simple rule that people who did not want to fast didn' t have to get up.. so everyone in the house was aware that if someone didn't get up for sehri they aren't fasting. Never did this question come up in my family from my dad or brother.. With hubby I just let him know if I am not getting up for fasting and that's about it.
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**Euh ? I think when we are indisposed we can't perform the 'wozoo'. Right ?
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****I heard something similar to that 4m an aalim but with periods. If you fast and then you have your periods, you’ll ‘have to’ keep the fast. But will still ask this question to an aalim 
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when u r not fasting u still needs to behave like rozadaars, out of respect. during periods when women r not fasting they should also observe this and not keep munching all day or eating full meals. as they need to respect month of ramadan. one more thing of yur periods continue for more than 10 days then u will treat that as a disease and start reading namaz and keeping fast , there was more to it , dont rember exactly. i think i read it in a tafseer . if anyone knows more please do elaborate.
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I've never been "forced" to fast or pray.....to hide that I have my period. My dad will sometimes forget and ask something like "You're not fasting today?" or "Did you fast all the days?" I don't answer....and then my mom will respond to him with a ...."WTH look"...and then my dad gets it, lol....end of discussion. .
Haha same here..or then my mom just says "she's not feeling well" and he gets the idea.