Get your act together, Ladies

This thread is inspired by (and not in mockery of) PCG’s for boys.

1. Take responsibility and make your own decisions. It is NOT appropriate for an adult female to simply let everyone else run her life. Women who do this are told that they are so wonderful because they are so obedient and so compromising. These “compliments” serve only to keep you from having control in your life and end up leading to many unhappy events. YOU are the one who must live with the consequences of the decisions that are made about your life. You alone will need to deal with them. So take advice from those your trust, but SPEAK UP for yourself and be involved before any decision is made on your behalf. It is not your choice; it is your DUTY as an adult.

2. Parents are not infallible. Most parents want the best for their children. But that doesn’t make them perfect and unbiased. They can be selfish sometimes. They can be close-minded. They can be paranoid and scared. They can hold grudges. They can care too much about what others think. All of these feelings and tendencies can lead to bad decisions for you. So respect your parents; but don’t allow that respect to silence or blind you.

**3. You teach people how to treat you. ** If you constantly sacrifice your own time, energy, and free will for others, people will begin to think you “don’t mind.” They will take you for granted because you’ve made it okay. People are inherently self-centered, even the ones that mean well. You have to let people know what is acceptable and unacceptable treatment. Then follow-through by being clear about boundaries and your expectations when you feel things aren’t working out. Don’t remain silent; your silence is acceptance of the treatment and then you yourself are to blame for your own suffering.

**4. It’s not “better” to be a victim or a martyr. ** It is not better to stay in a bad situation to “keep the peace.” It is not right to complain about an oppressive situation to others, but do little to fix it. Also remember that being a doormat is not setting a good example for your children. You are doing them no favors by showing them that this kind of treatment is acceptable. No child needs to see her/his mother constantly beaten down and unhappy. And it is important for both boys and girls to understand that it is not “normal” or “acceptable” to treat others in an oppressive manner.

**5. If you project an image that is all about your superficial qualities, people will see you as little else. **If you devote your time and energy to spending daddy’s money and hubby’s, and talk of little else, don’t be shocked when people don’t value your opinions and take you seriously. If you spend all your time drawing attention to your looks and clothes, don’t be shocked when people lose interest quickly.

**6. Contribute positively and productively to the world. **Whether that means you are a caring and vigilant mother, a thorough and talented housewife, a volunteer in your community, a creative artist, an insightful lawyer, a skilled doctor saving lives, etc. Find ways to share your talents with the community in a way that benefits the whole (and visibly, if possible). Make your life about something more than yourself.

7. Get an education. An education isn’t simply about getting a job; it’s about growing as a thinking and responsible human being. Regardless of any natural talents our brains and hearts may have, it’s important to challenge and train them in a way to improve ourselves. Self-improvement does not end at 22. Always look for ways to better yourself, and you will benefit everyone around you.

**8. Be capable of being independent. ** You may not want an independent lifestyle. But often life does not go as planned. Don’t trap yourself into a bad situation you can’t get out of simply because you assumed someone would always be there to take care of you. Being an adult is about becoming a responsible human being – you should be able to take on responsibility for yourself and others who need you, should it ever be necessary.

**9. A wedding is to create and honor a sacred union, not a day for you to feel like a princess. ** If all the discussions (and arguments) leading to the marriage are about clothes, jewelry, and money, you are in real danger of losing sight of the big picture, and that can lead to bad decisions in the future. It is imperative that you discuss what it means for the two of you to make a commitment to each other, to God, to family, and to friends. And remember that marriage will change your life.

**10. Talk about the important stuff BEFORE you make a commitment. **Make sure you discuss what that means, what you expect from others, and what they expect of you. Don’t wait until AFTER the marriage to address the kind of lifestyle you envision for yourself. Remember that Pakistani men in particular have years of cultural expectations and hundreds of family members to support them in their desire for a wife that takes care of all their needs. Of course the expectation is unreasonable, but we shouldn’t be surprised that they would resist change. I think pretty much ANYONE (male or female) would love to have someone who takes care of them, cooking, cleaning, spoiling, serving, and without complaint. And when the cultural expectation is there that you are supposed to have someone like that, wouldn’t you be disappointed – and even angry – when you didn’t get that? So if you’re marrying a Pakistani man from a Pakistani family, don’t wait until you’re married to think about whether or not this is the role you want to play. Don’t wait to find out if he has these more traditional expectations. Address these issues before the marriage. Otherwise you threaten the very sanctity of your marriage.

**11. Marry someone who will be a partner in life with you. **This means that you marry someone who will nourish your body and soul, someone who will energize and inspire you, someone who will engage and better you. Find someone who you can care for and who can care for you as needed. Not someone who has the job, bank account or car that you currently find most impressive.

**12. It is important to deal with issues by addressing the source. **If something your husband did is bothering you, don’t go blab to everyone in your family and all of your friends. TALK TO HIM. If you have a complaint about someone, address the concern with that person. Otherwise, your complaints are simply back-biting and gossip and will never lead to an improved situation. And the fault is your own.

**13. If you choose to do nothing productive to improve your situation, then you don’t deserve to have your concerns addressed. ** Stop whining and DO something.

14. Being a mother is about raising a HUMAN BEING. Being a mother is hard work and it is a job that NEVER ends; yes, it’s very rewarding. But if you go into it without THINKING you will not only hurt yourself and your husband, you will be doing a real injustice to the human being you are raising. So do not become a mother because you are bored. Do not become a mother because you want attention. Do not become a mother just to have something to cuddle. Do not become a mother to please your parents, inlaws, husband, etc. Do not become a mother to fix your relationships with your spouse or other adults. Do not become a mother to prove something to someone else. Become a mother because you are ready for the very real responsibility of raising a human being. They don’t stay babies for very long, so make sure you realize what you are getting into.

**15. If you have devoted your life to your children and husband, make sure you are also cultivating a talent and interest. **As time passes, the needs of children and spouse change. When children become more independent, it is important that you remain attentive, but also encourage their growth and independence. You shouldn’t NEED them to be around all the time. You shouldn’t NEED to be fussing over them. Too many mothers become unnecessarily clingy as children begin college and work, and use guilt to draw children back into the home more and more often. You should have other ways to occupy your time and help you contribute to the world around you. You should be happy with a little independence too, and find new ways to share and grow with your children.

**16. Don’t always assume the woman is at fault. **When we hear of a conflict on GS we may favor the woman; however, in our personal lives, women are often very suspicious of the other women in their lives. Often when we hear of issues and conflicts that relate to people we know, we are quick to judge the woman in the situation (for being a bad wife, a bad mother, a bad worker, etc). It makes us feel better about ourselves. Though of course there are circumstances when this may well be true, it is important that we do not let our natural competition with other women blind us from fully understanding a situation. Otherwise we only perpetuate what negative attitudes toward women in general. We are our own worst enemies.

**17. Avoid language that is derogatory to women. **B itch, s lut, w hore, rape, ho-bag, nympho, p ussy, etc. A lot of these words (and many similar ones) are casually used in conversation these days, and women themselves use them. We’re “just joking,” but in perpetuating the casual use of these words, we make it okay for men and women to look at women in a demeaning manner, making progress more and more difficult.

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I agree that often the men in women's lives screw them up. But it's not always (or often) the men. There's a lot women need to step up and take responsibility for. There's a lot they can do to enter into better circumstances. What I've listed here is really just common sense. But sometimes cultural expectations and a sense of obligation blind us from common sense. And quite honestly, it's frustrating to see the mistakes turn into the same problems over and over again.

The point is, ladies, you do have the potential to exercise control in your life and to improve it. But you need to DO SOMETHING. Of course there are women out there trapped in lousy situations through no fault of their own; but most of us have made silly choices without thinking properly and these continue to hurt us.

So the above is some advice from someone who's still learning from her own life and the lives of those around her. Please take it seriously, and let it affect your own for the better.

And feel free to share lessons and advice you've picked up along the way.

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Here here! tips cup

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Wow Sahar thats amazing, thanks for sharing

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I completely agree with you Sahar. What a great post!!!

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Sahar, in order to follow even half of your points, one thing that is really important is that you MUST have confidence and a strong sense of self-esteem. How a person gets themselves into bad situations is due to their inability to believe in themselves.

Nobody is perfect. However, that doesn't make you inadequate or a failure. It is important to recognize your own strengths and qualities. If you are able to recognize it, and truely believe it, that's how you 'start' to give yourself confidence.

Another important thing that I learned is that you cannot allow anybody else to define who you are .... be it your parents, friends, siblings, husbands/boyfriends. You cannot allow their opinions of you to define who you are and you cannot live your life based on their definitions of who you are.

This comes back to your confidence level. Recognize who you are. Acknowledge your strengths and weaknesses. Just because someone says something negative to you, about you (i.e. you are a "fill in the blank"), does it make it true? Are you really whatever this person is saying?

Give yourself credit and start building your confidence and self-esteem.

A lot of what you have written is common sense. However, you won't put it into practice unless you actually believe it ... and in order to believe even half of these points, you need to believe in yourself first.

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Women in our culture are programmed to think of their identity as an extension of their family, as an extension of their familial roles and responsibilities, rather than as an identity created de novo out of your own choices and likes/dislikes.

You are someone's maa. You are someone's behn. You are someone's beti. You are someone's wife.

In our culture, when are you...you?

I go to the masjid, and whenever they talk about stories of the women in Islam, they always refer to these women by their relationships. They don't say Oh, these women (and name them). They'll say "oh the wives of the prophet, they were so obedient". Gimme a break - our men haven't done us any justice in portraying us as anything other than an extension of their own existence.

I think our generation is struggling to get out of this social suicide. Maybe our children will have it easier.

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^ its a great thread. please do not steer it again into blaming all of womens problems and issues on men. thats the point of this thread, take control, take charge of who YOU want to be, cut the strings from the family who is holding you back, if thats what YOU want. do not sit at home and conveniently blame the 'culture' for keeping you there, especially not when we are in the west and there is ample opportunity to be what we want to be.

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BEAUTIFUL POST!

TALIYAN!

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Women and men are intertwined. You cannot discuss the problems women have today with their personal selves without examining the causes in our society. Men have had a huge hand to play in making sure women don't develop a sense of self in Pakistani culture.

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PCG, girls can change that. You can't blame men for everything. A lot of these issues happen cause girls allow them to happen .... and they only allow it to happen cause they don't have any sense of self-esteem and confidence within themselves. A lot of girls don't even know who they are. Their roles are defined for them, not always by men, some times by parents, some times by society, some time by girls themselves cause they want to 'fit in' or for whatever reason.

This isn't just Pakistani culture, this is in EVERY culture.

You have to develop a sense of self by yourself and by yourself only. You will always find people trying to knock you, sometimes other women, sometimes your friends, sometimes your spouses ... but you need confidence, and you need to know who you are, and you need to BELIEVE in yourself in order to let it not affect you.

Remember, no one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt

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And that is what feminism is all about.

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could someone post a summary?

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One thing I will say with regards to Pakistani culture, is that we (girls) need to stop worry about what other people will think/say. A lot of our behaviour is driven by that. We (girls) need to look out for ourselves and protect ourselves cause reality is, nobody else will. If you don't stand up for yourself, you will turn into a doormat, and eventually you won't even like looking in the mirror because you won't like the person you have turned into.

Focus on yourself first, instead of giving so much importance to society/culture.

That is actually really hard.

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^ That's the same attitude my rose as, bless her.

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Sahar02 - Great post. It's good to see that you've put some thought to it. Not just a simple cut/paste from cosmo. Great job.

OMG are you implying my post is just a copy-paste?!?

It's been on my mind for days (and parts of it for years). It took my whole morning! And then I felt compelled to take a nap. :D

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^ Oh. LOL just saw your edit :D

It all has to with keeping a balance in your life. While thinking of yourself first is a priority for an average mind, you are not living your life in a vacuum. You are someone’s somebody. You owe other people some sacrifices yet you shouldn’t lose yourself in the process.

Balancing your life and your roles is not easy but we all have to do it regardless of the gender.

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AWESOME AWESOME post!!

Usually some situations are nothing but a vicious cycle of martyrdom , for example
men/husbands glorifying women/wives who live in misery than change their surroundings--this is a never ending cycle, where the male offspring will accept this as a norm and expect his wife to be a slave to such atrocious living conditions. To be honest its sadistic and not worthy of being glorified...movie mothers, drama wives are NOT an appropriate representation of how real life relationships should be!!

secondly, I have seen women call their husbands "stupid" on this forum (in normal conversations) numerous times, and honestly this truly shows how much respect these women are willing to give and receive!!

thirdly, from what I have seen, in the so called "privileged" households girls boast about not having to lift a finger, and young men roam around in swanky cars without any responsibilities. Plenty of ample opportunity going to waste..an ivy league school or even a local private school is not a guarantee for success, YOU have to become the person who will make the effort, not your degree..

Too much emphasis on "how many cars" "how many clothes" "what mighty event we hosted" "i buy more" "you buy less" "I buy whatever i want, because i can pretend to afford this and that" etc etc...
the pretentious nature towards everything has literally destroyed peace!!

*and yes, having a baby will not solve the issues you are having with your spouse! you created the problems, you must solve them..and the baby is not a genie who will magically erase issues.

Everywhere I go, women are busy putting up a fake front to avoid reality...sugar coating and exaggerating each and every little event, making everything seem like a huge deal, and then poof you realize they were all just words!

*womenfolk, wake up and make your way into the real life! yes do something for the society!! something worthy! something that doesnt require you to spend thousands just to make yourself feel good. I wish more and more women would stand up and hold their head high when saying "NO" where it matters and saying "YES" where it means the most.