It is a shock to me that neither people of India nor Pakistan seem to know the genocide that took place in Kashmir. Historically and culturally, Kashmir is a critical part of Indian cultural evolution. Religiously it is one of the central nodes of Shaivaite, Vaishnavite and Bhuddhist religious philosophy.
Ironically, the history of Kashmir is perhaps one of the best documented regional histories in India.
Yet the well documented and still current ethnic cleansing and genocide of the people of Kashmir seems unpopular.
**When you ignore your history, your enemies will re-write it. **This is precisely what I see happening here in this board. Using the very same cunning, selective quotation of events and numbers and aided by the cacophony of Pakistani mischief-mongers, the true history and the atrocities that were committed in Kashmir are being whitewashed and being super-imposed upon by counter-allegations.
I was also similarly misled until recently. I also thought the muslim majority of Kashmir were being thwarted by a Sikh and Hindu dominated Indian armed forces. I also thought that even though we all know Pakistan is playing a mischievous role by way of cross border terrorism, we Indians, if we are not capable of handling such foreign interference, it was our own fault.
Then when I questioned the root causes it became clear that we are all being taken for a ride by vested interests that either do not know or do not want to know their own history…any case, they certainly do not want us to know en masse.
So here in this thread I propose to provide excerpts of what I am reading. If you are interested you are also welcome to go directly to the sources which I will quote as I proceed.
Here is a direct quote to start with about the genocide
Baha’rista’n - I - Sha’hi’
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[It may be recorded] that the temples of idol-worshippers, which had been destroyed and razed to the ground by the religious-minded and justice-loving Sultan Sikandar, God bless his grave and bless him, had been rebuilt and rehabilitated by Zainu’l 'Abidin. He had permitted idolators and polytheists to revive the practices of infidelity and they had propagated heresy (kufr) and false religion (din-i batil). With the support of some more kings, the infidels had flourished day after day. But with the support and authority of Malik Musa Raina, Amir Shamsu’d-Din Muhammad undertook a wholesale destruction of all those idol-houses as well as the total ruination of the very foundation of infidelity and disbelief. On the site of every idol-house he destroyed, he ordered the construction of a mosque for offering prayers after the Islamic manner. The idolatory and heresy which had existed prior to his coming to this place were effectively replaced by his preaching and propagation of Islamic laws and practices. He brought honour to all the infidels and heretics (zandiqa) of Kashmir by admitting them to the Islamic faith and bestowed upon them many kinds of rewards and benefactions. It is publicly known as well as emphatically related that during his life-time, **with the virtuous efforts and elaborate arrangements made by the fortunate Malik Musa Raina, twenty-four thousand families of staunch infidels and stubborn heretics were ennobled by being converted to the Islamic faith. **It is difficult to compute the number of people who had hitherto indulged in corrupt practices of a wrong (false) faith and dissent and were put on the right track under the proper guidance of Mir Shamsu’d-Din 'Iraqi.
**The ravages and destruction of Kashmir by **Zu’l-Qadr Khan
Zulchu’s ravages](http://www.kashmir-information.com/baharistan/chapter2.html)
Zulchu’s[11] [Zulju’s] incursion on Kashmir also took place during the reign of Suh Dev. Chroniclers of the events of Kashmir have not recorded an event more disastrous and catastrophic than Zulchu’s raid. Its details are given below.
In the early spring of A.H. 727 (A.D. 1323), a king [12] Zulchu by name and confirmed as Zulaji by Mirza Haidar [13] entered [the valley] via Baramulla at the head of seventy thousand Mongol and Turk soldiers and horsemen.[14] **From there he ordered his troops to carry out a wholesale massacre of the natives. **Whosoever fell into their hands between the boundaries of Kamaraj[15] and the extreme end of Maraj[16] was put to the sword. People who had run away into mountains and forests were captured. Men were killed; women and children were made prisoners and sold to the merchants and traders of Cathay who had accompanied his troops. All the buildings of the city and the villages [of Kashmir] were burnt. His troops consumed as much of foodgrains as they needed and whatever remained they destroyed. The whole of Kashmir was subjected to destruction by their ungodly acts.
Suh Dev, the lord and ruler of Kashmir, was much disheartened and discouraged by the tyranny and corruption of Zulchu. With a handful of his close associates he fled towards Kathwar. His commander Rama Chand shut himself up in the fort at Gagangir[17] [sic] in the pargana of Lar. Zulchu’s troops went on killing people and looting their possessions; nobody dared to come out of their hiding places in forests and mountains. The people of Kashmir were reduced to such a state of helplessness that they could not attend to their work of tilling the land. The result was that all arable lands in Kashmir remained unattended and uncultivated. Foodgrains stocked during the previous year were partly consumed and partly destroyed by his troops who now faced hunger and famine and awaited death. In this way they “cast their boat of life into the whirlpool of disappointment and frustration.”
- Jonaraja names him as Dulaca. See Jonar. St. 142.
- There are conflicting views about his status in the country of his origin. Hasan, who calls him Zu’l-Qadr Khan, states that he was a grandchild of Hulagu from his daughter’s line. See THK, p. 162. Malik Haidar’s opinion is more assured when he states that he was the ruler of Turkestan. See T.M.K. MS. 29a. Jonaraja, however, says that he was a general in the army of Emperor Karmasena. See Jonar. St. 142. This seems to be correct because Srikantha Koul writes that Dulaca (Jonaraja’s version of Zulchu’s name), is not the personal name of Zulchu, but a corruption of Darakechen, a military office under the Mongols. See Jonar. p. 165.
- Mirza Haidar Dughlat, the author of Tarikh-i-Rashidi.
- The text obviously is silent about how the king of Kashmir reacted to his invasion. Malik Haidar says that unable to resist Zulchu’s attack, Suh Dev the ruler of Kashmir fled to Kathwar. See TMK. MS. f. 29b.
- See Rajat. ii, 476-90.
- Ibid.
- The text is not clear. Hasan writes that the fort was that of Gagangir. THK. p. 162.
:)***…‘Get Smart’ you forgot all those Brahmin Hindus Massacered the Ab Original People living in North India and pushed them South to Dravidistan 
and also called them Untouchables…long before any Muslims came to Hindustan…the Land of distinct four castes…Right
apnay gareybaan mein moun dallo Ji…
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^ Sindsagar - you don't know the Dravidan history either as your comment highlights but pls hold of. Let me get the Kashmir history out first since I have taken that up and then come to Dravidian. Meanwhile, let me just say as a person of Indian origin you have nothing to be ashamed of about your ancestors. The Aryan Dravidian conflict was a 'suitable' story created for convenience by the Europeans taking advantage of the different ethnicity
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^^^ awww to bad sumthing happen to hindus, what abt Muslims in Indian occupied Kashmir?millions have been killed, raped & massacred in past 60 years! Where your lil filthy hindu heart is?
open your eyes stupid!
^^^ awww to bad sumthing happen to hindus, what abt Muslims in Indian occupied Kashmir?millions have been killed, raped & massacred in past 60 years! Where your lil filthy hindu heart is?
open your eyes stupid!
Millions !!!!!!! ..... can you provide any source
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google it and simply ignore the indian websites!
Millions !!!!!!! ..... can you provide any source
you think i am gonna waste time on aam Bandha lol your own mates dont consider you useful lol
Here are the figures from "Azad J&K "government webiste … for a minute let me take them as they are … since 1989 there have been 83,145 killings … till 2002 … http://www.ajk.gov.pk/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2258&Itemid=126 Where did the millions figure some. Add up the numbers
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^^ 60 years dumbo, what abt the rapes & tortured men & women. killing 83,145 is a piece of cake for Indian Army? there should have been more! wah wah bravo Indian Democracy!
knock Knock anybody home? aam bandha Wake up!
^^ 60 years dumbo, what abt the rapes & tortured men & women. killing 83,145 is a piece of cake for Indian Army? there should have been more! wah wah bravo Indian Democracy!
knock Knock anybody home? aam bandha Wake up!
Killings Since 1989 83185 August 2002 368 Houses/Shops Burnt **Since 1989 103463 August. 2002 213 **Orphaned **Since 1989 101602 August, 2002 339 **Women Molested **Since 1989 8680 August. 2002 74 **Widowed **Since 1989 20655 August. 2002 136 **Incarcerated **Since 1989 7415 August. 2002 955 **Maimed **Since 1989 12000 August. 2002 821 **Missing **Since 1989 6000 August 2002 68 **Custodial Killings Since 1989 6002 August 2002 67
Again these are the figures form the "Azad Jammu & Kashmir"website .... if include everyting ... all the killings,custodial deaths,maiming,molestation, orpahing etc ...... i throw in the "shops & houses burnt"also. All of it comes to a grand total of 349,002 ........ that is almost a 1/3 of a million. So do you agree you were wrong in saying that millions have been killed, injured,raped in Kashmir !!!!!!
Now dont tell me that these figures are from 1989 ..... everyone who knows Kashmir knows that the incidents of voilence were so miniscule (in comaprison to figures since 1989) that even the Jehadi / "Azad J&K government"have not put up these figures .... they pale in front of the figures since 1989
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again 1989, what abt before 89 dumbo, wouldn't be a million in 60 years. but yet again, how many more have to die before stupid Indians like you will understand, you cant keep kashmir forever. dumb @$$ 0.7 million army cant fight against 50k kashmiri mujahadeens, what a shame for such a Democracy! you should be ashamed of being an indian, for an argument sake! quarter of a million deaths doesn't bother you..shame on u..
again 1989, what abt before 89 dumbo, wouldn't be a million in 60 years. but yet again, how many more have to die before stupid Indians like you will understand, you cant keep kashmir forever. dumb @$$ 0.7 million army cant fight against 50k kashmiri mujahadeens, what a shame for such a Democracy! you should be ashamed of being an indian, for an argument sake! quarter of a million deaths doesn't bother you..shame on u..
Well it is wishfull thinking but it does not add to a million in whatever way.
As for killings .... well even killing a single human being is worng. But i am not going to take a lesson in democracy from people about quater million deaths in 60 years from people who were responsible for more then a million deaths in 267 days !!!!!
Pakistani generals want to do a Bangaldesh to India ..... but they dont have Sam Bahadur!!!
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^^ keep that stupid @$$ Sam to urself, in fact he must be burning in Hell by now. as per killing in east Pakistan, it was Mukthi Banis backed by Indian Army. so called Democracy in India, its the worst picture of democracy where only stupid Hindus have all the rights and none of the Muslims have any say what so ever.
Indian Democracy all Hypocrisy!
^^ keep that stupid @$$ Sam to urself, in fact he must be burning in Hell by now. as per killing in east Pakistan, it was Mukthi Banis backed by Indian Army. so called Democracy in India, its the worst picture of democracy where only stupid Hindus have all the rights and none of the Muslims have any say what so ever.
Indian Democracy all Hypocrisy!
What was Mukhti bahini ? Who were the people in it and fought against the muslim army of Pakistan?
Now for last 35 years Indian Army is not there in bangladesh .... so what is stopping the muslims of Bangladesh to unite with muslims of Pakistan !!!!!!!......
Atleast in India, as you say, we provide right to Hindus ... well we provide rights to someone. Why Pakistan has failed to provide right to even muslims in Pakistan (it was created for that reason) ........ the mohajirs are complaining and fighting, the balochis are complaining and fighting .... the afghans are ....
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^^ again google mukhti banis and improve your knowledge before u open ur filthy mouth. Y still in the biggest democracy of stupid india, people have been burned alive in Gujrat, killing of sikhs in Golden Temple, massacre of Kashmirs,killings of innocent ppl of Assam, tripuram, etc etc?? Why still india has cast system? why 500 Million ppl in India living behind the poverty line? before u lift finger at Pakistan, get things fixed in stupid India.
There are no more Mohajirs in Pakistan, now that party has changed to Muthida. (Mohajir means people who migrate from one place to another) they aint no mohajor no more!
stupid and dumb @$$ ppl like you cant even get there facts rite!
As per Baluchistan! wht indian consulates are doing along side Pak Afghan border? selling Mujra Videos of Indian women?
P.S What happen to your Nick Get Smart? ouch!
^^^ awww to bad sumthing happen to hindus, what abt Muslims in Indian occupied Kashmir?millions have been killed, raped & massacred in past 60 years! Where your lil filthy hindu heart is?
open your eyes stupid!
Stop foaming in your mouth - not good for your health to bark like a rabbies afflicted pit bull.
It was your pakistani army that killed and raped the people in both East Pakistan and Kashmir. Learn to recognize facts instead of calling us names you moron
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^^ awwwww now getting the taste of ur own medicine haan! typical indians like u r the real face of VHP/BJP hindus. Indians like u r the disgrace to humanity & any religon. U r the killers of millions of innocent ppl in Kashmir, Assam, Tripuram, Punjab! shame on u!
P.S what happen to ur other nick aam bandha? dont feel like using it?
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^ Kashmir, Assam, Tripura, Punjab you say? oh yeah they are all in India.
What happened to E.Pakistan? GONE! kaput. Enjoy.
and also called them Untouchables…long before any Muslims came to Hindustan…the Land of distinct four castes…Right