Gen. Athar Abbas: Kayani feared religious right’s backlash against him

I have lost respect of Kayani & because of his indecision the country paid humongous price. As for religious right…they are the enemy within & are pulling country backward.

Kayani feared religious right’s backlash against him: Athar Abbas - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

A former spokesman for the Pakistan Army says that as army chief, retired General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani baulked at launching a military operation in North Waziristan in 2010 for fear of a backlash from the religious right.

The indecision, he says, has caused untold losses.

This writer spoke to retired Major General Athar Abbas. Here are some excerpts from the interview.

Q: Why do you think that 2010-11 was the right time to have launched the North Waziristan operation?

A: As compared to any other area, the army has suffered heavily in North Waziristan because a large-scale military operation was not carried out there. When we conducted the South Waziristan operation in 2009, we isolated the TTP. That operation was successful. At that time the army warned the North Waziristan tribes that if they allowed the TTP Mehsuds to migrate into their area, this would warrant a military operation.

But they [TTP members] kept concentrating [their forces] and virtually took over Mirali, Machis and other areas. Then they allowed in the Punjabi Taliban, Lashkar-i-Jhangvi and the Ilyas Kashmiri group.

The tribes somehow made deals with groups such as that of Hafiz Gul Bahadur, with a ‘live and let live’ understanding. But the equation changed and the tribes were in no position to dictate their terms when the militants violated some conditions.

The militants had a more powerful hold on the area as compared to the virtually unarmed tribesmen. The militants also were violating clauses of their deals with the government and the army. They were attacking the military. In one ambush in 2010, the Hafiz Gul Bahadur group, which was supposed to be in an agreement with us, killed 40 of our soldiers, including a commanding officer.

Q: What was the military top brass’s opinion about launching an operation in 2010-11?
A: The final decision, of course, was always that of the chief, but formation commanders recommended that unless we launched an offensive in the area and cleared it, we wouldn’t be able to control the spread of militancy and terrorism. As their hub was North Waziristan, everyone in the area was of the opinion that eventually, we would have to go for it.

Many of us were of the same opinion: the more we delayed, the more complex things would become. But another group believed that the militant groups or tribes on our side would turn against us and join the militant groups [in case the operation was launched].

But the fact is that the tribes were violating the clauses, the militant groups were violating agreements and whatever members of the Haqqani network were there in the area, were very few. The Haqqanis were mostly operating from Paktia and Khost [in Afghanistan]. The other concern was how to expel them [militants], how to displace them. The other factor on his [Mr Kayani’s] mind was, what will become of the IDPs?

But the fact was that a few of us were of the opinion that nothing was going to change as far as our administration, government and other agencies were concerned. Those would remain the same, but it [a delay] would complicate matters more because there would be more consolidation of the militants in the area.

I can say with confidence that we are vindicated. It has now become a much bigger problem.

Q: Do you think that Mr Kayani was afraid of a personal attack against him?
A: I don’t think so, but certainly there was the vulnerability of towns and cities because there was weakness in our law enforcement, the civilian law-enforcement agencies. They were so much in disarray. So this was also the concern. But now, too, the vulnerability is the same; the retaliation may occur.

There was also no political consensus and therefore he thought a military operation would not find political support. And there would be a strong reaction by the religious right. He also apprehended that they would directly attack him.

That became his main concern.

Q: Can we say that he was concerned about religious hardliners’ backlash towards him?
A: He was concerned about the reaction of the religious right. But the fact was that the ruling party, the Awami National Party and the MQM were all for an all-out operation. They were all along for the operation, barring the right-of-centre parties and, of course, the religious right. I don’t know how concerned he was about his personal security or safety.

Q: What made the current military leadership go for this operation?
A: For six years, he [Mr Kayani] kept vacillating over the issue and in six months, this leader decided that this is the crux of the problem. He took a decision. It’s a matter of how decisive you are, how much you have the ability to sift essentials from non-essentials.

Q: How much do you think the country has suffered for not launching the operation in 2010-11?
A: We have suffered more than 50,000 civilian causalities owing to this. Not everything happened because of North Waziristan, but it was the main source. Over 5,000 soldiers were killed and 10,000 more lost limbs.

There are the economic losses and the huge loss to Pakistan’s international image.

Q: Was the Haqqani network also a factor of delay?
A: It was one of the overriding factors. And as I said whatever the elements of the Haqqanis were there, intelligence [agencies] was supposed to manage them. You can’t allow these groups to keep creating problems.

Q: Why has your revelation about Mr Kayani’s indecision come now?
A: I was to give an interview to the BBC on the military operation. The issue came up. They asked why now, why not earlier? When we got into that, things started coming up and I had to face the truth squarely.

Q: Do you think that there should be action against the former army chief for this costly indecision?
A: That is not a fair question to ask. I think history will judge.

Re: Gen. Athar Abbas: Kayani feared religious right’s backlash against him

I'm surprised that a military man is allowed to talk about his former boss like that in the media especially at times of an operation. Hmm. Military discipline, what military discipline.

However, I appreciate Gen. Abbas for revealing the truth. The public deserves to know.

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Operation should have been launched much earlier against TTP terrorists. But not against Haqqanies. They are pro Pakistan.

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This probably was the reason Kayani didn't want to launch the operation, unfortunately our politicians are still busy pulling each other's pants down rather than fixing broken institutions, strengthening law enforcement, independence of judiciary etc.

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so why not invite them to islamabad or lahore? why hide them in caves in jungles? :confused:

and how is pakistan able to ask for afghans to seal border, catch mullah radio etc. when for over a decade they have been stashing and feeding these most wanted criminals of afghanistan? :konfused:

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I believe you were the who a while back refused to accept that peace with the Taliban was futile, and you even denied the hub of the problem was in North Waziristan. You called me a "War-monger," as I recall. Now who's the war monger?

How soon we forget.

The whole thing turned exactly the way I told you it would. The public did know, but people like you were to accept the reality. You were to busy parroting your great "leader" to figure out what everyone already knew.

Re: Gen. Athar Abbas: Kayani feared religious right’s backlash against him

He was endorsing every word of Kiyani when he was getting salary as ISPR spokesperson. As soon as he received his pension, suddenly he found a villain. I’m not a fan of Kayani or any other uniformed person for that matter but as soon as they retire they become saints themselves.

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rule is simple. Those who kill civilians, kill them. Thoso who do nt kill civilians, do nt kill them… Haqqanies hit US troops, let US handel with haqqanies. We do not need to waste our energy on haqqanies for US, they are not against Pakis. Simple.
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Re: Gen. Athar Abbas: Kayani feared religious right’s backlash against him

Oh look, first post back after a long ban and already resorted to personal attacks, lol. That's a massive chip on shoulder I see.

Remaining allied to the ultimate message of the thread, it took three years to finally find out who was after all reluctant to launch operation. It probably wouldn't take long to find out exactly how effective Peace Talks have been in the grand scheme of things. Peace Talks would've been called futile if they were either treated as final surrender or the final solution. But it was seen as neither. The Peace Talks were designed for those fringe groups that were willing to surrender, while the operation was presented as an imminent warning to those still holding on to their guns. Considering all the divisions and infighting that took place amongst Taliban prior to Peace Talks, the profound and extremely sensitive intelligence gathering by Pakistan army, as well taking into account the miraculously low retaliation rate (touch wood), I'd say Peace Talks was a worthwhile thing to do. Just like appeasement against Hitler was.

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if rule is kill those that kill civilians, question would be where would the graveyard for haqqanis be. they have killed plenty of afghan civilians.

besides, the uzbeks were pretty much the same - killed afghans, lived in pak. for over a decade until they decided to spread their shariah message in pak too. so, energy saved now vs. slaughter of your civilians later.

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i told u earlier, haqqanies do not hit, afgan civilians, they are targeting US and Natto troops. Fazol ma pangaa na lo haqqanies say, Mari Jaan.. queer](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=queer) #Haqqanies](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Haqqanies) #SaveYourEnergy](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=SaveYourEnergy)

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so when afghans say they are getting killed by the haqqani network taliban, they are lying? :hehe:

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Queer :wub: Pakistan so much, he is in every Pakistan related thread there ever was. :slight_smile:

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the taliban arent just a pakistani problem. pakistan's support for them has been a problem for everyone in the region in the past. and i do love pakistan, just not the hypocrisy of a lot of pakistanis when it comes to policy matters.

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:hayaa:

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And here I was, thinking you were a RAW agent fo sho. :smack:

Re: Gen. Athar Abbas: Kayani feared religious right’s backlash against him

Yeah generals ko retire honay Kay baad hi kyon Sach bolnay ka dora parta hay?

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Yaayy I knew spokesman Shahidullah Shahid has an account on GS :wink:

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And he sings divinely. Check him out in Voice Gallery. :k:

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When his garrison in Abottabad was on attack and OBL was taken out, his indecisiveness could have been judged a long time ago. The eunuch general should have resigned the same night when this was happened under his nose. However he was active in Kerry-Lugar funding program and “Memogate”. He had no permission to take over civilian government otherwise Zardari would have been still in Dubai.