Gaza Under attack

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^ What do the two blue lines in the Israeli flag represent ?

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Who are you? pakistani? what are you doing in canada? Canadian? why are you worrying about pakistanis.
@phoenixdesi

Leave Hamas aside,Do you support any armed resistence to israel?

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No solution can be reached if you leave it between Palestinians and Israel, world powers have to force a solution only if they are really interested.

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But charity starts at home, right? Even zakat as per islam should be given to relatives first.

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This below is just one example video of Israeli army harassing/attacking farmers who are working in their own land:

There are tons of other videos you can find about Israeli atrocities when there was no apparent “war” between Israel and Hamas. People who think it is stupid Hamas who incites these hostile situations/wars need to do research. Sitting idle, “accepting Israeli power”, “Palestinians accept helplessness” and all these are going to change nothing. Israel will continue its hunting/killing business to grab more land from Palestinians. Hamas tries to fight back which then is shown as “Hamas attacking innocent Israel”.

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This is true ... True charity starts with oneself ... It is not the sort of charity one gives to others ... But it is sort of charity that gives the self the recognition that it has a duty beyond selfishness. No one is saying Pakistaniyon ka haq maro ... Rather we should recognise where the needs are most ... Despite the mess in Pakistan and our relatives ... The chances are we have helped them as much as we can ... If there is anymore left in you then support the other brothers and sisters ... If not financially then at least verbally.

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The situation is confusing for many people. From what I know, Israel is actually building settlements in West Bank, but it seems Fatah is not bothered or stupid enough to lob rockets at Israel.

Of course, you can say that hamas is fighting on behalf of ALL Palestinians, but gaza and west bank are two separate entities now. Call it the israeli ingenuity or palestinian stupidness, but hamas is all alone in Gaza.

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THIS...this right here sums up pretty much everything going on in Palestine/Israel:

hamas is terrorist organisation, Israel is a bigger terrorist organisation, your solution is no solution.

I'm still catching up on this thread but not once have I read anywhere about what Allah has said about the damned nation - remember he sent pitkaar on them because they've always been the definition of greed. Allah has given them so much but they've only wanted more more more. Yahood will never be pleased until they take over the world. And if anyone knows a thing or two about Islam, that is when the world will cease to exist. This is just the beginning of the end.

That being said, for those who dont believe in the Quran (which, I doubt most dont but I'll address it anyway) Israelites argue that the land belonged to them long before Palestinians came.

My argument to that is, would it be alright for someone to knock on my door and demand I evacuate my house because at one point in time it was their ancestors land?

Zionists/Jews cannot expect to occupy land because it was theirs x amount of years ago. Things dont work that way.

Lastly - this whole talk of Hamas is utter BS - They throw rockets that are deflected. Israel throws bombs that are inflicted upon child after child (ranging from 11 months to 15 years and above)

There is no comparison because nothing can be compared to inhumanity.

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Look at the irony:

Christiane Amanpour ‏@camanpour](https://twitter.com/camanpour)** 31m**
**Popcorn anyone w your airstrikes+rocket salvos? Has this conflict plumbed depths of cynicism? http://cnn.it/1ro67Lw pic.twitter.com/CLexjYmzPx

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Guys, my comment will hurt u, but let me say it, Pak army really broke my heart. Israelies are cutting our brothers in GAZA and our army is sleeping in GHQ. Plz do not make noise. Let them sleep.
And i wonder, where are thoso Nam-Nahaad and So called "Mujaahids" , who claim to be " muslims" like ISIS, Hizbullah and others.... Shabash guys, tamasha dakhtay Raho Gaza Ka.. You are doing great..... Keep on killing Your own muslim brothers in Iraq, Syria and lebnon and do not take action against Israel. Shabaash. You are doing great...

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Pakistan army can't be jumping in a war 1000s miles away, Pakistan does not have a 'naval/air-base' in foreign countries like US. Pakistan can only jump in if supported by Egypt, Jorday, Syria etc.

I do agree about so called jihadists in surrounding countries and I did post a cartoon about that too.

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First Israeli death of Gaza operation as mortar shell kills man at Erez Crossing

By JPOST.COM STAFF
LAST UPDATED: 07/15/2014 19:44

After ceasefire rejected by Hamas, rockets rain down on Israel setting off sirens in Center and South; man killed was reportedly a Chabad rabbi volunteering to distribute food to soldiers.

http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?ID=248915&Cap=true

A morning that began with Israel accepting an Egyptian-initiated ceasefire plan to end more than a week of hostilities with Gaza ended in tragedy, as Hamas rejected the truce and the conflict claimed its first Israeli victim on Tuesday.
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Despite Israel’s declaration that it was ceasing fire, Gaza terrorists continued to launch rockets on Israel throughout the day, eventually forcing the IDF to respond by resuming air strikes on Gaza.
Shrapnel from a mortar shell killed a man at the Erez Crossing, who, according to Israeli media reports, was a Chabad rabbi who had volunteered to distribute food to soldiers in the dangerous area.
Simultaneously, a series of explosions sounded in the greater Tel Aviv area as the Iron Dome shot at least two rockets fired from Gaza out of the sky.
The barrage of rockets set off sirens in the South and central areas such as Ramat Gan, Bnei Brak and the surrounding areas as well as in Modi’in and Shoham near Ben Gurion Airport. The Iron Dome also shot down a rocket in Ashkelon. Rockets were also fired at Dimona, the home of Israel’s nuclear reactor.
Israel refrained from responding to the Gaza rockets for some six hours on Tuesday morning to give Hamas a chance to accept the ceasefire before Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu gave the order to resume strikes.

First Israeli death of Gaza operation as mortar shell kills man at Erez Crossing | JPost | Israel News

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Now this is really sickening.. not only they are watching but also having fun.

and on the top of it, they say they are under attack.. such a BS

Israelis Gather to Watch Gaza Air Strikes

Jul 14, 2014, 6:00 PM ET
By COLLEEN CURRYCOLLEEN CURRYMore From Colleen »

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Civilians and members of the media wait to see Israeli attacks inside Gaza from the top of a hill on the sixth day of Israel’s operation “Protective Edge” on July 13, 2014 in Sderot, Israel.
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Photos captured on a hilltop in Israel show residents who gathered to watch Israel’s airstrikes on Gaza.

The photographs were taken Sunday evening in Sderot, Israel, as a group of Israelis brought chairs, cameras and hookahs to the hilltop.

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PHOTO: A man uses binoculars while waiting to watch Israeli attacks inside Gaza from the top of a hill on the sixth day of Israel’s operation “Protective Edge” on July 13, 2014 in Sderot, Israel.

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PHOTO: Civilians and members of the media wait to see Israeli attacks inside Gaza from the top of a hill on the sixth day of Israel’s operation “Protective Edge” on July 13, 2014 in Sderot, Israel.

More than 170 Palestinians have been killed in the conflict. In response, Hamas has launched rockets into Israel this week as well. No Israelis have been killed.

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PHOTO: Smoke rises from inside Gaza from Israeli attacks on the sixth day of Israel’s operation “Protective Edge” on July 13, 2014, as seen from Sderot, Israel.

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PHOTO: Civilians and members of the media wait to see Israeli attacks inside Gaza from the top of a hill on the sixth day of Israel’s operation “Protective Edge” on July 13, 2014 in Sderot, Israel.

Andrew Burton/Getty Images

PHOTO: Civilians and members of the media wait to see Israeli attacks inside Gaza from the top of a hill on the sixth day of Israel’s operation “Protective Edge” on July 13, 2014 in Sderot, Israel.

Andrew Burton/Getty Images

PHOTO: Civilians and members of the media wait to see Israeli attacks inside Gaza from the top of a hill on the sixth day of Israel’s operation “Protective Edge” on July 13, 2014 in Sderot, Israel.

Photos Show Israelis Gathering to Watch Gaza Air Strikes - ABC News

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ek tamasha hai kisi ki maut ka
ek jashan hai kisi ke marnay ka
jhoom jhoom ke naachnay do hamayn
hamayn intizar hai kisi ki barbadi ka

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3 teenagers, really? Something to ponder:

The Gaza Bombardment - What You’re Not Being Told | SCG News

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Well isn't this what all the prophecies are about? End of time will begin once the entire homeland is theirs (the jews). That's step 1, building of temple solomon is the next, and then voila, end of times.

If the prophecies are true, the butchering will continue and the land will be once and for all taken over, and palestinians will be either kicked out to other countries, killed off, or will become the foot stools/prostitutes/child laborers/servants of the jewish people.

It's inevitable if the Holy Books are true.

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Hoping this crap will end is futile. I say this with regret and sadness but it's honestly futile.

-Saudia Arabia will one day wake up and help? Not gonna happen. House of Saud was built on the premise around the era of the world wars, with the deal that if the West helps them get into power, they will house the palestinians displaced when Israel is built.

-America stopping it's backing? Not gonna happen. 1) many of our powerful and who is who in America are jewish, imagine the revolt if US switches sides on this and 2) the Christian families who are in power in the US want to do anything to keep the jews from taking more control in the US - there is commentary in history I recall reading around WW2 time that the Jewish refugees from the genocide in Germany should be shipped to Israel and the US didn't want to take them. Why? Because they figured the powerful and wealthy Jews would become a powerful group in the US, overthrowing the Christian control. The idea is - let's support them getting their own country, and keep them away from here.

-and like I said if the Holy Books are predicting that one day the Jews will return to their homeland and then end of times will begin, well, get ready and buckle up folks. Just hope this is one of the small spurts of violence that will self resolve and end soon, rather than be the major battle that ends up in complete land control by Israel. Cuz if that really does happen, we may be seeing the "end of times" in our lifetime.

Dunno about you, but I'd rather be dead once Dajjal decides to make his appearance.

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And some of you question why Taliban/Al Qaeda/ISIS, etc aren't jumping the gun to join in the fighting, proclaiming a jihad against Israel...did it ever occur to anyone that these extremist groups are secretly funded by Israel to cause dissent and destruction in other muslim countries, thereby making it super easy to gain control of resources. Notice how these groups strike in areas where there are resources - like the natural gas in balochistan, or ISIS going after areas where there are oil pumps? Interesting that under Gaza lies natural gas too.

It's like Allah knew this was gonna go down like this. Notice how natural gas is located right beneath the feet of muslims, and the last bits of oil are also located beneath muslims too.

There was some talk and whisperings, many years back, that some of the "imams" that people were coming far and wide to see and visit in NWFP/FATA/Balochistan border with Afghanistan were actually Israeli agents, pretending to be muftis and aalims. One man eyed, that one of these speakers did not attend namaz, and was curious how he missed attending a jamaat, and the whisperings were that this man is actually from Israel, he will complete his "imaamat" here and in 6 months will go back to Israel.

Who knows if these are just whisperings of conspiracy theories, but any real muslim knows that their messages these guys preach are not Islamic in any way.

Again, not to sound anti-jewish, since at this point even the jews are drawing a line and speaking up against these issues. If they can speak up against it, we should too. Atrocity is atrocity, doesn't matter who commits it.

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And FYI, Hamas had 6 hrs to obey a truce proposal by Egypt today, which it refused. It kept firing, whereas the Israelis had actually stopped.

I mean, no one is gonna go anywhere with the Hamas in control. I think the Gazans and West Bank Palestinians have a right to try to regain their rights to land/travel/an economy and all, but if you're gonna elect a stupid hot-headed group of people to represent you, it will cause problems.

Muslims for centuries have been unable for some reason to elect reasonable level headed rulers. They somehow always choose the inefficient ones. Just like Pakistan keeps electing the Bhuttos or Sharifs, knowing both families have a bad record.

Poor Gaza. All this in Ramadan too.

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Instead of usual conspiracy theories, have you ever thought that perhaps they would need a will AND perhaps a base (more like 90% will) to attack israel as "never again" people have done terrorist acts like blowing up planes in retaliation for PLO strikes in Lebanon in the past. Let us not even bring in the complete rout in 67 and even 73.

The point is that israelis are not some useless baddus with many of them even sympathizing with their killers aka ISI. Change some names and places and the situation is the same in Pakistan.