Gay/lesbian friends

[kakee]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

I didn’t know Southie could speak Japanese.

Also, I don’t understand why people bother arguing with people who are homophobic or get frustrated with their views.

If you want them to follow the ideology of live and let live, shouldn’t you as well?

[ajazali]

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@kakee

I didn’t know Southie could speak Japanese.

Also, I don’t understand why people bother arguing with people who are homophobic or get frustrated with their views.

If you want them to follow the ideology of live and let live, shouldn’t you as well?

What if all the animals become homosexuals and perish themselves from the earth? Would you still let them “live” and perish or would you force them to reproduce and to be not homosexuals?

[kakee]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

Again I don’t care, you’re asking the wrong person. I won’t even give my money to pandas because they are lazy.

If you want to sleep with a woman and not a man then be my guest. Its none of my business, nor is it yours if people choose to not save earth.

[Southie]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

@kakee

I didn’t know Southie could speak Japanese.

Also, I don’t understand why people bother arguing with people who are homophobic or get frustrated with their views.

If you want them to follow the ideology of live and let live, shouldn’t you as well?

I do google translate cut and paste - just for Hattori san.

You are correct. Arguing endlessly not very wise. At the same token, when abhorrent views are expressed, the silent majority is society’s worst enemy. We should all speak up against the voices of hate.

[Southie]

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@ajazali

What if all the animals become homosexuals and perish themselves from the earth? Would you still let them “live” and perish or would you force them to reproduce and to be not homosexuals?

Nice philosophical and spiritual logic.

Considering the earth has an overpopulation problem with limited resources, this doesn’t even begin to compute.

[ajazali]

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@kakee

Again I don’t care, you’re asking the wrong person. I won’t even give my money to pandas because they are lazy.

If you want to sleep with a woman and not a man then be my guest. Its none of my business, nor is it yours if people choose to not save earth.

I got your point that its none of our business if people choose not save the earth.

[mufaddal]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

Just an observation here…
Reading through this thread, I get the feeling that the Indians on this thread seem to be more accepting of alternate lifestyles, and do not have major issues with homosexuality than the Pakistani’s (barring a few).
Is this indicator of yet another difference between us?

[kakee]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

What as far as I know most of them are Pakistani

[queer]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

diwana is indian.

[partyslims]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

queer is nordic

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[picoico]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

@diwana

Yes. That is essentially in Quran.

Show me where Allah said in Quran how to punish homosexuals.

Look my friend you can keep going, but you need to read above for the answers already given.

As far as the act of homosexuality is concerned, there is no doubt it is wrong.

Socially one may choose not to associate with them which is the question of this thread.

Punishment is a different matter. It is not up to common people to worry about.

Homosexuality is regarded as a sex act, not a s a badge of “peoplehood”, in Islam. Thus, the standard punishments apply (given that there is no sex within wedlock for homosexuals).

There is a hadith that states that those participating in sodomy are to be killed, but I’ve always seen that in the context of the above (i.e. if they are committing adultery).

[picoico]

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@ajazali

What if all the animals become homosexuals and perish themselves from the earth? Would you still let them “live” and perish or would you force them to reproduce and to be not homosexuals?

From the point of view of biology and reproduction, homosexuality seems like a pretty severe dysfunction. Sexuality is, however, conflated with how we socialize. Homosexuality in the western world is much less about sex than it is about identity, and so the rhetoric of rights is what dominates the discourse around homosexuals. Consequently, such biological arguments don’t gain much traction…aside from traditional Catholic doctrine, I don’t think the idea of marriage for procreation holds much currency now days.

This doesn’t hold true for Pakistan or most Muslim societies, so the argument is probably valid in those contexts. I just don’t see how there can be any meeting of minds on this point.

[Huma_1]

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This debate is so 2010

Being friends with a homosexual person is no different for me than being friends with someone who does not believe in what I do which pretty much makes up my entire friend circle. Some people may also be horrified at the thought of being friends with a “kaafir”. I don’t see the harm in a bit of humanity and kindness. I’m not exactly going to go for poojas with my Sikh friends but if they can send me wishes and gifts on Eid then why can’t I show them the same respect?

[Ghost14]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

Because then you would be associating with the homosaxyooals and you might catch the “gay”. :halo:

[Monk]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

@Ghost14

Because then you would be associating with the homosaxyooals and you might catch the “gay”. :halo:

I have to quote Margaret Cho here.
“if you think you might catch a “gay” you ARE A gay”

sorry.. I could not resist.

[ajazali]

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@Southie

Nice philosophical and spiritual logic.

Considering the earth has an overpopulation problem with limited resources, this doesn’t even begin to compute.

so you are suggesting a birth control program?

Btw, have your ever approved a spiritual idea?

[Reha]

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@Southie

At the same token, when abhorrent views are expressed, the silent majority is society’s worst enemy. We should all speak up against the voices of hate.

:k:

@partyslims

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[khattichic]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

@Ghost14

Because then you would be associating with the homosaxyooals and you might catch the “gay”. :halo:

Are you of da gaaayyyyy?!

[Ghost14]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

@khattichic

Are you of da gaaayyyyy?!

I have question: I think I am of the gay fraandship with a girl. Please help!?

[khattichic]

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@Ghost14

I have question: I think I am of the gay fraandship with a girl. Please help!?

I can no haz da haaalp far you if you are of da gay. Vut if I become of da gay toooooo???