Gay/lesbian friends

[queer]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

normal.. is it normal to be muslim in amreeka?

does that mean they are abnormal?

muchas gracias, gordita diwanilla

[Southie]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

It was said here that one is defined by the company one keeps. Those who believe homosexuals are sinners are ignorant. But those who go out of their way to call them sinners, not normal etc are not worthy of one’s acquaintance, let alone one’s friendship.

And yes, every religion needs reform. With respect to this topic, the aspect of a religion that equates homosexuality with sin needs to be reformed. This is already happening.

One is also defined by one’s posts. Some here have defined their character very well.

[ninja_hattori]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

@queer

normal.. is it normal to be muslim in amreeka?

does that mean they are abnormal?

muchas gracias, gordita diwanilla

bhai sahab at least being muslim in pakistan is normal…

is being gay normal in any country?

[Southie]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

@ninja_hattori

bhai sahab at least being muslim in pakistan is normal…

is being gay normal in any country?

From the perspective of decent and fair people, gays are as normal as Muslims. Or Hindus. In America, it is the homophobes that are considered abnormal.

[ninja_hattori]

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@Southie

From the perspective of decent and fair people, gays are as normal as Muslims. Or Hindus. In America, it is the homophobes that are considered abnormal.

how much normal you consider them?

[queer]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

@ninja_hattori

bhai sahab at least being muslim in pakistan is normal…

is being gay normal in any country?

bhai pakistan is less than 80 yrs old. being gay has been a normal part of human existance for millenia.

[jeea]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

I have a few friends that I have known since school who are gay or lebians and personally I don’t have any problems with them being gay or lesbian. Like someone said above I wouldn’t cut her of just because of her sexuality.

[CoughCough]

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@diwana

Go cry in the corner since Homosexuals are not approved by any standard. Read above about idiotic philosophy of homophobia.

Just to let you know cursing and showing temper tantrum are some of the traits of homosexuals.

Are you a homo cough cough???

I feel your pain by my heart my friend.

Yeah I am homo. I think you mean you feel my pain by your ass.

You got denied by a homo eh? That’s why you so bitter. Are you ugly diwana?

[Southie]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

As normal as any person.

@ninja_hattori

how much normal you consider them?

[diwana]

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@CoughCough

Yeah I am homo. I think you mean you feel my pain by your ass.

You got denied by a homo eh? That’s why you so bitter. Are you ugly diwana?

Thank you for showing another reason why not to socialize with homosexuals.

They forget where they are and use filthy words and curse others, just like you have been doing in this thread.

[diwana]

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@queer

normal.. is it normal to be muslim in amreeka?

does that mean they are abnormal?

muchas gracias, gordita diwanilla

That is not the reason anyone would be normal or abnormal.

Finding same sex person attractive enough to act upon it is abnormal and unnatural behavior.

[queer]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

unnatural means not found in nature. plenty of homosexuality exists in nature, diwana pal. unnatural - something not found in nature - would be wearing clothes.

and even your blessed fairytales says adam and his rib-lady were naked. and hey, having sex with your rib is natural? sounds like homo-ness right there in the beginning of mankind. :\

[Ghost14]

That’s the thing, homosexuality exists in nature, among animals. Therefore it is a natural anomaly.

[diwana]

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@queer

unnatural means not found in nature. plenty of homosexuality exists in nature, diwana pal. unnatural - something not found in nature - would be wearing clothes.

and even your blessed fairytales says adam and his rib-lady were naked. and hey, having sex with your rib is natural? sounds like homo-ness right there in the beginning of mankind. :\

Lots of murderers, thieves, and other criminals have been around ‘in nature’ for a long time. Does that mean those are natural too?

Your definition of ‘unnatural’ is incorrect. You are avoiding or forgetting lots of other obvious reasons why homosexuality is unnatural and abnormal.

Hint: Anatomy and Biology.

Your second sentence:

I do not think you know what you call fairy tale. Quran does not mention anything about the rib. it talks about soul/nafs.

In at least one hadith the women are given example of rib meaning not to bend them too much to your liking (otherwise it would break) and accept them as women and teat them kindly.
‘Rib’ not in literal meaning.

Bible talks about rib more specifically.

Anyways, your attempt to justify homo-ness is failed when Quran and Bible (even Torah) call homosexuality wrong. You do not have to agree with any of them though.

Please come again.

[Ghost14]

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@diwana

Lots of murderers, thieves, and other criminals have been around ‘in nature’ for a long time. Does that mean those are natural too?

Your definition of ‘unnatural’ is incorrect. You are avoiding or forgetting lots of other obvious reasons why homosexuality is unnatural and abnormal.

Hint: Anatomy and Biology.

nat·u·ral

existing in or formed by nature

Animals “murder” each other, they steal food from each other, so yes, those things are natural too.

[diwana]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

@Ghost14

nat·u·ral

existing in or formed by nature

Animals “murder” each other, they steal food from each other, so yes, those things are natural too.

So I got you to say murder, stealing and homosexuality are in same group by using literal translation.

(We are going deeper in to discussion)

FYI: Word natural is also to figuratively mean ‘normal’ and none of these acts are normal.

[queer]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

normal is not an absolute quality, pal. what is normal for you is not normal for someone else. there is no real standard for it. your only hatred for homos stems out of your dogmatic faith, which in itself is quite unnatural.

[McPendo]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

Why would you hang out with the gays knowing that they’re proper sinners? Just why? How can you justify someone having sex with their own sex and then going out the world like its ok? They’re going against the natural law and pretending to be “normal”. You can’t sleep with a dude and then pretend you’re a productive member of society, no mate you’re sick! Sodd off!

[Reha]

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@diwana

Let’s see here and discuss your answers.

You said:

**1) I know because not every man catches my eye. Not every woman catches yours.
**
You talked about yourself here and me. But made remark about ‘me’ earlier. You have no idea of ‘my’ looks. So you just made a remark about me without knowing my looks. True?

**Not true. What I said was correct. Not every man catches my eye and not every woman catches yours. You’d have to possess a monstrous ego to believe all homosexuals and people in general are ogling you and want you. **

Again, nothing to do with being homophobic since being acquaintance is not what I disapproved. One can work with them, associate with them casually with no issues.

**2) It is much more discriminating…partners, clothes, fragrance, etc etc etc. It’s something I’ve noticed.
**
Yes, the attraction is discriminatory for anyone, no doubt about it.

But the question was based on you saying somehow gays are more discriminatory than females. You implied as if homosexual men are more discriminatory. Not proven.

I meant homosexuals are more particular.

**3) I am approving homosexuality just as much as I am approving stealing, pre-marital sex, shirk, eating pork, etc etc etc. To clarify, I am not approving it. I just know its not my place to condemn people.
**

So essentially you are not approving it. And I myself did not ‘condemn’ it by any means. Only gave religious perspective. Didn’t even bring sin element until you talked about it.

**Yes, it is socially unacceptable and hence those who choose not to be ‘friends’ with homosexuals are justified.
**
I only answered for those who would not want to make gays/lesbians ‘friends’. This certainly does not mean one has to be hostile to them as I mentioned above.

I am so glad you don’t plan on being hostile with them.

[9m33]

Re: Gay/lesbian friends

i feel sorry for them. becharay bemaar