Gay/lesbian friends

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And you know how ?

Who is on this honourable list ?

I am dying to know.

[O and you dare not put my name on that list.
You and your fertile imagination.
You dirty, dirty man. :emmy:]

I actually thought all men on GS were gay, except for moi, of course. :snooty: :smiley:
You can only count 5. Tsk. Tsk. :nahi::slight_smile:

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what then i think lesbian is not bad person ...one my friend she is lesbian

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yeah.
that’s right.

:chai:

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^ I think he was being sarcastic.

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^ Think she was being the same. :chai:

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The sexual orientation of a person shouldn't matter. I have a number of openly Gay friends and colleagues here in Mumbai, and it does not bother me the least bit. I support their cause and am glad Indian law no longer discriminates against them and allows them the freedom to have relationships with similar consenting adults.

They live in our society and we cannot and should not shun them, or be judgmental of their lifestyle choices.

In the bigger Indian cities, you can now see a lot more openly Gay people living normal lives. The first Pride Parade in Mumbai less than a decade ago attracted just a few hundred people, the one last year had over tens of thousands.

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I remember watching a TV discussion on this issue, view of one male participant may be worth sharing. He said,

Well I may have a gay friend, but I wont ever share my hostel room with him.

Everyone was witnessing a fit of laughter after hearing the comment.

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No I would not keep a gay or lesbian friend because I feel that they are unnatural and from what I have noticed dirty minded.

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I have a number of gay and lesbian friends from uni days and a few from workplaces. good people, never had an issue with them. But then the people who I become pals with are all that way regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation. as far as people asking me to break ties with them, yeah I heard tha, one of my fairly religious pals told me in college that he thought those guys were lechers and that i should cut off contact with them, I listened and said hmm okay, my rugby team pals told me to cut my contacts with you because they think you are a radical and extremist. he got the point.

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^ No doubt. I hate overly flamboyant gay guys, because they just perpetuate the stereotype, but I knew a few guys who turned out to be gay. I had no idea, and I didn't care. I think that's one thing people naturally assume about gay people: that they'll hit on you. Unless you're getting hit on all the time when you're straight, keep dreaming buddy.

People should just mind their own business. If homosexuality is forbidden, then God will judge that person. And no, being friends with them doesn't mean you approve of homosexuality. I'm sure Muslims have friends who lie, cheat, steal (how many of us have downloaded media for free?), and drink. All forbidden. Do you condone those actions? If the person keeps their sexual activities private (as most Desis do) then stop worrying about it.

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when I was in high school, I had a friend who was a lesbian and I complimented her clothes as I was walking past her and a girl I knew back then couldn't believe it. she talked as if I was committing a sin by complimenting a girls clothes.. just because she was gay.

I don't care if you're a guy or a girl, if you hit on me then you get ignored. luckily I'm too ugly to get noticed :D

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Homosexuality is forbidden in Islam...so is stealing, drinking, backbiting, disrespecting your parents, etc.

If the conditions of friendship were based on sins the person commits...none of us would have any friends to speak of.

So please...before people go ahead and get all high and mighty about this...realize...the sins we commit on a daily basis are also grave and forbidden.

If the person isn't imposing their lifestyle on you or your loved ones...its not your place to judge them. What they do in their personal lives is their business - just like ours is our own.

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:hehe: Awesome!

As for the topic, I don’t have any non-heterosexual friends. My only worry to be seen with a non-hetero friend is the perception of others towards me. I would have to walk around with a shirt that says “I’m straight though…”…

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I do not think anyone comparing lie/cheat/steal with attraction to same sex is making apple to apple comparison.

Two very different concepts.

Being acquaintance is one thing and being buddies and 'friends' is another, as I said earlier.

There is some truth to:

A man is known by the company he keeps

And

Birds of a feather flock together.

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are you jealous because they can give amazing fashion advice to girls? :hoonh:

i have some gay friends who don’t show off their homosexuality in such a manner, i don’t necessarily go around choosing friends based on their sexuality and i think it’s pretty horrible for people who don’t talk to same gender homosexuals. you’re not that hot that they’ll automatically fall in love with you or turn you to their sinful ways, calm down :rolleyes:

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Yes. Women are all about men being attentive and helpful but try being a good samaritan and helping a stranger pick out her underwear and all of a sudden the term “pervert” starts being thrown around. :disgust:

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No, they’re not two different concepts. They’re sins and sins in the light of Islam. Are you denying that?

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Gunah doesn’t become less grave just because you have done it in the past and would like to get off the hook easy. You don’t get to make that call. A sin is a sin…bottom line. And for anyone to look at someone else’s sins just to say “at least I don’t do THAT” is just foolish.

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Not really close friends but I know a couple of lesbian/gay/bisexual people in my class and at least two of them I’ve been on placement with so have got to know better. To the best of my ability I’ve treated them with respect, decency and just been casual and normal around them as my colleagues. I really did not want them to feel like I judged them badly in any way. In fact one girl came out to me first before she told any of the others in our group, which I found ironic but kind of good in a way - it showed that she trusted me at least.

As for my beliefs I really strongly disagree with any type of homosexuality.

As for how I feel around them, it’s not usually something I think about everytime I see them. I do have to say though that I feel like I have to be careful in the sense that I don’t want to mentally normalise the situation in my head such that I subconsciously accept what they’re doing as right, if that makes sense.

Being around so many people who don’t necessarily understand religion or values is kind of spiritually draining too. I’ve been advised by my Islamic teachers to treat everyone with overwhelming kindness and respect, but at the same time to keep an eye on my ibaadah every day and make sure I’m not slipping away due to the company I have to be with.

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Perhaps its not moral or islamic issue at all, or atleat no more.

From 1930 to 1977 there were chemical made to make CONSUMER plastic durable.
They were banned in 1977 or some thing. One side effect was its gender bender ability.

Its still impacting animals as we speak, but I don’t want to talk about it :frowning: I pretend its out of our echo system.

They way we use plastic now, soon all metropolitan are going to like Life1, extremely high estrogen.

In case you are curious, on the water track from our houses to back to ocean, frogs some times born like boys and turn into girls with out getting sex change operation.
Other animal are being born with both kind of body part.

Some kind of “ashraf-ul-makhloofat” we are.