Gavaskar says Tendy needs match winner innings

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Gavaskar hints Tendulkar might need to be shaken up
Our Correspondent
New Delhi, July 25

Sunil Gavaskar today suggested or hinted that Sachin Tendulkar might need to be talked to so that he will start playing more match-winning innings.

Gavaskar said as much on television and also wrote along the same lines in a British newspaper today.

Gavaskar said it is high time India started winning Test matches in South Africa, Australia and England and more application is needed from top players like Tendulkar.

Gavaskar also drew a parallel on how he had to do the same thing to Kapil Dev who was getting out in the 20s and 30s after playing extremely well and facing no problems. He said that he had talked to Kapil many times in the dressing room with no effect and then finally gave him a public rebuke in a magazine article.

Gavaskar wrote that Kapil would never again get 50. Sure enough Kapil went out there and got 64 in the next Test match, Gavaskar said with a smile.

Though he did not directly suggest a public rebuke for Tendulkar, the former captain was clearly saying that some sort of pressure need to be put on Tendulkar to play more match-winning innings.

There has been various statistics-based stories in the recent past trying to show that Tendulkar often failed when it mattered most. The NatWest final has been shown as a case in point where youngsters took up the task of making an impossible win.

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Gavaskar is a heathen and deserved to be stoned to death. I would not mind doing the honours either.

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AOA

Someone tell the former little master to count his compensations and shut up about Tendulkur.

People like him are putting pressure on the poor guy to win matches and that is the reason he is not.

Just leave him alone and treat him like Dravid or Laxman and he will do wonders for his team.

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I agree with Gavaskar. Tendulkar without doubt is the best and most talented player in the world at the moment but in moments of crisis he has more often that not let his team down. He needs to stick it out in the middle more often when his team is in need of stability and maybe he could learn from the performances of likes of Yuvraj and Kaif in the recent ODI final against England. Once he can accomplish this trait and stay in the middle and steady the ship when required he will truly become great.

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[quote]
Originally posted by sambrialian:
Gavaskar is a heathen and deserved to be stoned to death. I would not mind doing the honours either.
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Aapke players kam pad gaye kya jo hamare players ko stone karne chale ho ?

AK

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Gavaskarji, Sachin needs to score 36 runs in 60 overs, what a match winning score. I also have not forgotten your MATCH WINNING SCORE of 4 (BOWLED by DeFreitas) in RELIANCE World Cup SEMIFINAL. Not to forget your '2' in the 1983 World Cup final.Perhaps that was the most important ODI match of your life.
Your Comment about kapil is such a lie - you tried to screw his career so many times, rather unsuccessfully.

PS :-You were and are a batting genius but a jealous person as well. You screwed Indian cricket by bringing Poltics into it.

AK

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[quote]
Originally posted by Asif_k:
**Gavaskarji, Sachin needs to score 36 runs in 60 overs, what a match winning score. I also have not forgotten your MATCH WINNING SCORE of 4 (BOWLED by DeFreitas) in RELIANCE World Cup SEMIFINAL. Not to forget your '2' in the 1983 World Cup final.Perhaps that was the most important ODI match of your life.
Your Comment about kapil is such a lie - you tried to screw his career so many times, rather unsuccessfully.

PS :-You were and are a batting genius but a jealous person as well. You screwed Indian cricket by bringing Poltics into it.

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Very True.....

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Heh, how gavaskar is all of a sudden a liar... I am sure hes reading your reply asif_k, but that doesnt matter, hes already proven to the whole world the flaws in sissy_master

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[quote]
Originally posted by Spock:
Heh, how gavaskar is all of a sudden a liar... I am sure hes reading your reply asif_k, but that doesnt matter, hes already proven to the whole world the flaws in sissy_master
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Spock - Gavaskar never helped Kapil, He is a jealous person and tried to ruin his career. So his comments about Kapil is a LIE. He never helped Kapil - You should read Kapil's autobiography. In 1984 - He delibrately kept Kapil out of Calcuta Test, despite India won the previous test. Entire Nation was so furious that in every street there were posters like 'NO KAPIL NO GAME'. That was the reason People in Calcutta misbehaved with him and his wife(Not that I support it).

During reliance cup Semi Final, he fought with Kapil for playing a Wicket Keeper called Chandra Kant Pandit instead of kiran More who was the better WK. Ultimately both of them played and India Lost the SF. Not to forget he didn't want to see Kapil holding another world Cup and got out on 4. In the previous match itself he had scored a Century despite having 100 degree temperature. There are many more things I can mention about his selfishness and how he tried to screw Kapil and our Team.

AK

[This message has been edited by Asif_k (edited July 27, 2002).]

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I think Gavaskar is a great sportsman, and a very nice human being, I prefer him over Kapil... Thats my personal opinion.

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http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif

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Asif K, you didnt believe Gavaskar and called him a liar, and vouched for Kapil… Now lets see what uncle kapil has to say…

http://sports.yahoo.com/m/sk/news/reuters/20020730/reu-indiareax.html

**Former skipper Kapil Dev has led the criticism after India lost the first test against England, blaming the team’s lack of self-belief and weak bowling.

“It has been 16 years since we won abroad,” said Dev. **

"I feel very sad. We have the capability. But we have to believe in ourselves.

“We also lack in the bowling department,” he told reporters.

India’s last test series win outside South Asia dates back to 1985-86 in England, when Dev was captain.

Indian hopes of ending the drought suffered a setback on Monday when they capitulated by 170 runs on a perfect batting track at Lord’s despite the absence of three mainline England pacemen due to injury.

Brittle top-order batting and Sachin Tendulkar’s failure – he made 16 and 12 – saw India dismissed for 221 in the first innings, before adding 397 in the second after being set an improbable victory target of 568.

Dev, though, said Indian bowlers have struggled to dismiss sides twice in away tests in recent years. He also said the country had failed to live up to its tradition of producing quality spinners.

Indian skipper Saurav Ganguly confessed after the Lord’s defeat he should have included off-spinner Harbhajan Singh alongside leg-break bowler Anil Kumble on a dry pitch.

POOR APPLICATION

Chief selector Chandu Borde, meanwhile, blamed “lack of application” and said a re-think on selection was needed.

“Losing like that is bad. They (batsmen) must try to stay at the wicket for longer periods,” he told Reuters.

The Indian media also highlighted the top-order batting while praising all-rounder Ajit Agarkar, whose maiden test century narrowed the margin of defeat in the first match of the four-test series.

“Stubborn Agarkar fails to prevent the inevitable,” ran the Asian Age headline while The Indian Express added: “Agarkar the smile in the same old sob story”.

The widely-circulated Times of India daily focussed on Tendulkar’s batting on its front page.

The report quoted former players saying he was succumbing to the pressure of Indian expectations.

It quoted former England captain Michael Atherton as saying: “No other player suffers so much from pressure of expectation. It must be remembered that England have bowled very well to him.”

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[quote]
Originally posted by Spock:
*Asif K, you didnt believe Gavaskar and called him a liar, and vouched for Kapil... Now lets see what uncle kapil has to say...
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I said Gavaskar statement about helping KAPIL is a fat lie. Read my post first.

AK

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So Gavaskar and Kapil are both right when they say the Indian team sux!!!

cant bowl, cant bat...

EOD

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Spock, Jinke ghar sheeshe ke hote hain woh dusron pe pathar nahin feka karte.

4 Years - Not a single series win at home man. Recently Srilankans came to your country and beat up in your own hood, and You telling me my team sux ?? At least We won at home.

AK

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AOA

Asif_k, brother you seem to take everything so seriously and you have hard time taking a little critcizim over your team's current form.

Spock mentioned that India has a bad team and showed you proofs from Gavaskar and Kapil's statement and you came back to criticize the Pakistani team.

I have seen you do that on many occaisions. I think you should answer him back by talking about India and not insult Pakistan.

And when people say that Pakistan haven't been able to win a series at home in last 4 years. That is false.

Because Sharjah is now concerned a Sharjah territory and they beat Westindies there.

Pakistan just defeated Newzeland. On papers this series is abandoned. Pakistan literaly won that series just from the outcome of the first test in Lahore and there was no doubt that Newzeland never had a chance of winning the 2nd test.

So you theory of Pakistan not winning series in 4 years at home is not true.

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Originally posted by Xpress:
**AOA

Asif_k, brother you seem to take everything so seriously and you have hard time taking a little critcizim over your team's current form.**
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Brother, I can take any amount of criticism, but I can't take insults to Indian player or team. About the Indian cricket Team's form, Isn't it the same team which won the natwest trophy 10 days ago.

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Spock mentioned that India has a bad team and showed you proofs from Gavaskar and Kapil's statement and you came back to criticize the Pakistani team.
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Where in their articles Gavaskar and Kapil said 'Indian Team Sux' which spock highlighted ? Where did they say can't bat can't bowl ? If you read Kapil's first statement - he says 'We have the capability'

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I have seen you do that on many occaisions. I think you should answer him back by talking about India and not insult Pakistan.
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Brother, I try not to Insult but it has been more than six months now and I have given up on those saintly thoughts. If someone insults an Indian player or Indian team - I will do the same. That is the only way to keep them quiet.

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And when people say that Pakistan haven't been able to win a series at home in last 4 years. That is false.
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Do you accept ICC's rules ?? If you do then they have not (Unless you count Bangladesh)

AK

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Asif_k, it is best not to reply back when you know it will turn it to a Pak vs Ind argument. Just leave it as it is.

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haha, whats 4 years compared to 16 years…

“It has been 16 years since we won abroad,” said Dev.
india → sux

“We also lack in the bowling department,” he told reporters.

  • bowling → sux *

Dev, though, said Indian bowlers have struggled to dismiss sides twice in away tests in recent years. He also said the country had failed to live up to its tradition of producing quality spinners.

  • spin bowling → sux*

“Losing like that is bad. They (batsmen) must try to stay at the wicket for longer periods,” he told Reuters.

  • batting → Sux *

AND YOU COMPARE THAT TEAM TO PAKISTAN…

Anyone with a pair of eyes knows what a crappy team India is… Look at their record for crying out loud!!! I am not attacking the Indian team morally, they may be good men, but the fact is, playing good cricket is beyond most of thems ability…

Kapil has said three things basically…

  1. India cant bowl
  2. India cant bat
  3. India does not believe in itself

What more is there to think about? Signing autographs or →

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/crying.gif

India => hehe

[This message has been edited by Spock (edited July 31, 2002).]

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Earlier, I used to be a big Tendulkar fan, and I didnt believe umair, sambralian etc when they said tendulkar was not a match winning player, but judging by how he is playing now, they are right... Afterall, uncle Gavaskar and uncle Dev cannot be challenged.