I hear you. I in fact stated that people from humble beginnings do make it to the top with perseverance. But to say only 10 pct contribution is due to circumstances is being insensitive to those who are dealt a terrible hand.
A scheduled caste person who is born into a family that cleans latrines has to fight discrimination at every step. It is more humane to level the playing field than to pooh pooh the notion that ones circumstances can play a huge role.
got to address and attack root cause. Else all one does is to rub salt into the wound.
At Southie, this is actually not my saying, I have heard it many times.
“The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, the education, the money, than circumstances, than failure, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company… a church… a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice everyday regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past… we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you… we are in charge of our Attitudes.”
― Charles R. Swindoll tags: attitude
No problem my friend. I just saw you did mention that.
Take the west. Yes it is a meritocracy. But is the playing field level? In Manhattan over 80 pct of African Americans in the 19 to say 45 age group have stopped and frisked. Why. No reason. What does that do to morale. Sentencing for cracked cocaine way stiffer than for cocaine. At least 30 pct of blacks in this age group have been in jail. Once u r in the system difficult to get a job. If u have addiction u get thrown in jail. No treatment. Prison privatized. For profit industry.
Just saying we need to also look at factors that create and foster inequality.
I am grateful to the USA for giving me an opportunity. I would like the same opportunity afforded to everyone in this country.
Sure someone said that. That doesn't change the fact there are several families with bread winner working multiple jobs and doing their best with minimum wage. Slogans are good. They r belpful. But one has to fix what is wrong with society. Top 1 pct is the riches they have been. Gap between rich and poor widest.
Surely those at the bottom aren't their cause of attitude. There is systemic unfairness. With compassion one would be able to address root cause
1. Should we respect everyones opinion (Diwana very amateurish thought) hell no, there are people who think we should be wiped of the planet, neo nazis, all sorts of fanatics. All opinions should be respected hmmmmmmmmm!!!
Do we have to like every one/ respect everyone, NO!!! we will come across people who we think are losers, we don't agree with how they think and behave, we don't have to like them or respect them, we have to be civil with them, say good morning, smile at them and keep on walking.
Southie about ethnic underclass, the chinese in all walks of life in US are doing better than the whites, they also were an under class group, how did they end up at the top.
We pay over 50 percent of our wages in combined taxes, how much more should we pay to show our compassion, the system is fraught with welfare fraud, it is a fine balance. Humans are known to take the shortest path to gratification, we make welfare too easy it takes the motivation away.
QUOTE=BombShellBabe;10015827]Knight, everyone is entitled to defining success differently based on their definition. People goals are not necessarily to chase higher ranks. Their priorities could be spending a well-balanced life where they don't need to deal with too much work stress and have enough time for the family or other things that they love... Being extremely rich comes with bad consequences and I have seen it in the family. Some people can't get out of their situations who are doing least desired jobs because they have tried their best. You can't compare people with one another because everyone possess different skills. Some people are born smart, some people struggle to become smart, some people can't comprehend at all, some people have pure bad luck, and others have disabilities.
If you were to ask my definition of success, I'd look up to the person who is higher than me but it is not gonna be the same for my brother and I am Ok with his mentality. We as humanbeings need to learn how to coexist and accept others. Let's stop acting like animals by degrading those people who has less than us and be thankful to God for what we have.... Yes, the lazy people can go really far in life if they don't procrastinate. My post is not about slackers rather I am discussing the ones who really try hard but couldn't gain success.
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QUOTE=BombShellBabe;10015827]Knight, everyone is entitled to defining success differently based on their definition. People goals are not necessarily to chase higher ranks. Their priorities could be spending a well-balanced life where they don't need to deal with too much work stress and have enough time for the family or other things that they love... Being extremely rich comes with bad consequences and I have seen it in the family. Some people can't get out of their situations who are doing least desired jobs because they have tried their best. You can't compare people with one another because everyone possess different skills. Some people are born smart, some people struggle to become smart, some people can't comprehend at all, some people have pure bad luck, and others have disabilities.
If you were to ask my definition of success, I'd look up to the person who is higher than me but it is not gonna be the same for my brother and I am Ok with his mentality. We as humanbeings need to learn how to coexist and accept others. Let's stop acting like animals by degrading those people who has less than us and be thankful to God for what we have.... Yes, the lazy people can go really far in life if they don't procrastinate. My post is not about slackers rather I am discussing the ones who really try hard but couldn't gain success.
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What is so hard to comprehend when I mentioned physical, professional, financial, social, spiritual and family goals does that not sound as balance, If you are a ski bum/beach surfing bum and you are happy that is success. But if you choose to be a bum and make it everyone elses problem than you are a loser. I personally rejected very lucrative financial offers to be with my children. You need different role models for different facets of your life.
^ Because what other people do with their life isn't your problem. You having to be in a room for 3 hours with someone with a bad attitude doesn't make his lack of success your issue. You can only control what you do and you can very easily chose not to be in the same room with that person or chose to completely ignore whatever advice he is throwing at you and and you can even chose to tell him off. It's your prerogative. But I don't see how complaining/venting or whatever the purpose of this thread was, about another person who only spews complaints and bitterness himself is in anyway any different. Does it really matter how this person choses to live his life, productive or not.
Everyone has different ideas of success. I am impressed by what your ideals are as well. You seem to have done well in life Ma Sha Allah. Regarding the guy, there are people like that everywhere, a nuisance regardless of what their education or social status is. Just ignore him when you meet him in other gatherings. Don't invite him to yours.
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What is so hard to comprehend when I mentioned physical, professional, financial, social, spiritual and family goals does that not sound as balance, If you are a ski bum/beach surfing bum and you are happy that is success. But if you choose to be a bum and make it everyone elses problem than you are a loser. I personally rejected very lucrative financial offers to be with my children. You need different role models for different facets of your life.
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