We recently started socialising again and by Allah’s blessings we have a very nice circle of friends, we try very hard to surround ourselves with happy and positive people and avoid negative and bitter people like plague as I firmly believe that company of negative, bitter and misreable people can impact peoples lives in a very bad way. MA most of our friends have found success in all aspects of their lives, they are well placed financially, have awesome families and are kind gentle god fearing kind of people. One of the regular person has started bringing his older brother to the get togethers as his brother is completely broke and because of his bad behavior is unable to get employment, some times he does menial jobs like drive a cab, security guard, janitorial work ect. The problem is that his brother is extremely bitter and negative and a party pooper kind of a guy. He just loves to sit down and lecture people very overbearingly about how to live their lives, he gets extremely agitated when anyone has a difference of opinion with him.
I don’t mind taking advise from people with proven success, but here he is 40 yr old virgin, has no life skills, lives like a pig in dirt and filth, has no family and children, is dependent on family to support him and is shouting out advise about how to be successful in careers, how we should treat our wives and how to raise our children.
What should we do avoid going the the get togethers or should we approach our friend and tell him how his brother makes us feel.
Our deen teaches us to bring the less fortunate (whether it be in the area of finances or intelligence) into our circles so that they may be guided.
Do you not have a desire to help this poor man?
I would not turn someone like this away.
He needs help and if you continue to shun him from your gatherings then really you have helped nobody but yourself.
We recently started socialising again and by Allah's blessings we have a very nice circle of friends, we try very hard to surround ourselves with happy and positive people and avoid negative and bitter people like plague as I firmly believe that company of negative, bitter and misreable people can impact peoples lives in a very bad way. MA most of our friends have found success in all aspects of their lives, they are well placed financially, have awesome families and are kind gentle god fearing kind of people. One of the regular person has started bringing his older brother to the get togethers as his brother is completely broke and because of his bad behavior is unable to get employment, some times he does menial jobs like drive a cab, security guard, janitorial work ect. The problem is that his brother is extremely bitter and negative and a party pooper kind of a guy. He just loves to sit down and lecture people very overbearingly about how to live their lives, he gets extremely agitated when anyone has a difference of opinion with him.
I don't mind taking advise from people with proven success, but here he is 40 yr old virgin, has no life skills, lives like a pig in dirt and filth, has no family and children, is dependent on family to support him and is shouting out advise about how to be successful in careers, how we should treat our wives and how to raise our children.
What should we do avoid going the the get togethers or should we approach our friend and tell him how his brother makes us feel.
Can you stop generalizing success? Also, you need to respect others opinion regardless of their financial status. Him giving you guys advise about how to raise a family might have came out since he doesn't have one. I remember I used to give lectures on success in high school but that motivated me to pursue my goal. During that time, I wasn't successful Some people like to preach so there is nothing wrong with that :p .... What is a looser? Oh you mean, loser?
^ BSB you generalized all men to be insensitive in your last thread...so let other generalize as well.
I could see how annoying his opinion could be when you see so base for it...nothing to support. I would suggest to just ignoring. You can't really ask your friend not to bring him around. That would be rude and that might also damage your friendship with them.
When he is giving you these lectures...ask him where he is getting this knowledge from. That might shut him up too.
But you have to remember how you treat this person, is how your children and other kids will treat him as well. so be carefull and dont give the wrong lessons to the kids.
We recently started socialising again and by Allah's blessings we have a very nice circle of friends, we try very hard to surround ourselves with happy and positive people and avoid negative and bitter people like plague as I firmly believe that company of negative, bitter and misreable people can impact peoples lives in a very bad way. MA most of our friends have found success in all aspects of their lives, they are well placed financially, have awesome families and are kind gentle god fearing kind of people. One of the regular person has started bringing his older brother to the get togethers as his brother is completely broke and because of his bad behavior is unable to get employment, some times he does menial jobs like drive a cab, security guard, janitorial work ect. The problem is that his brother is extremely bitter and negative and a party pooper kind of a guy. He just loves to sit down and lecture people very overbearingly about how to live their lives, he gets extremely agitated when anyone has a difference of opinion with him.
I don't mind taking advise from people with proven success, but here he is 40 yr old virgin, has no life skills, lives like a pig in dirt and filth, has no family and children, is dependent on family to support him and is shouting out advise about how to be successful in careers, how we should treat our wives and how to raise our children.
What should we do avoid going the the get togethers or should we approach our friend and tell him how his brother makes us feel.
there is so much wrong with this post but let's start with why you think driving a cab or a job as a janitor should be considered menial......
so many people in the world feed their families based on this sort of work. who are you, or I for that matter, to condemn any work as "menial".
Two game cocks were fiercely fighting for the mastery of the farmyard. One at last put the other to flight. The vanquished Cock skulked away and hid himself in a quiet corner, while the conqueror, flying up to a high wall, flapped his wings and crowed exultingly with all his might. An Eagle sailing through the air pounced upon him and carried him off in his talons. The vanquished Cock immediately came out of his corner, and ruled henceforth with undisputed mastery.
Can you stop generalizing success? Also, you need to respect others opinion regardless of their financial status. Him giving you guys advise about how to raise a family might have came out since he doesn't have one. I remember I used to give lectures on success in high school but that motivated me to pursue my goal. During that time, I wasn't successful Some people like to preach so there is nothing wrong with that :p .... What is a looser? Oh you mean, loser?
He is not poor because of misfortune he is poor because he has a bad attitude, choices have consequences, does he deserve sympathy if he is not willing to mend his ways and continues to make bad choices. He is alone and lonely because of his behavior. I always take advise from young motivated people.
He is not poor because of misfortune he is poor because he has a bad attitude, choices have consequences, does he deserve sympathy if he is not willing to mend his ways and continues to make bad choices. He is alone and lonely because of his behavior. I always take advise from young motivated people.
Isn't it unfortunate that he has a bad attitude?
I wonder where he developed that from? Perhaps from unfortunate experiences?
Perhaps because nobody showed him a different way to be?
there is so much wrong with this post but let's start with why you think driving a cab or a job as a janitor should be considered menial......
so many people in the world feed their families based on this sort of work. who are you, or I for that matter, to condemn any work as "menial".
You are probably right about that, it is menial considering that he has a masters degree and in the province we live in has the lowest unemployment rate in North America. If it is poor economy than it is fine to drive a cab with a PHD degree, but if you are driving it because you got fired for being rude to coworkers than I consider it menial.
Our deen teaches us to bring the less fortunate (whether it be in the area of finances or intelligence) into our circles so that they may be guided.
Do you not have a desire to help this poor man?
I would not turn someone like this away.
He needs help and if you continue to shun him from your gatherings then really you have helped nobody but yourself.
Above all deen teaches us to keep good company Sir.
How many guppans will consider rishtas from Janitors and cab drivers, I can do a posting on Rishta.com It will be raining men. I have seen white doctors marry cabbies but never a brown one. One can cut the hypocricy with a knife.
Two game cocks were fiercely fighting for the mastery of the farmyard. One at last put the other to flight. The vanquished Cock skulked away and hid himself in a quiet corner, while the conqueror, flying up to a high wall, flapped his wings and crowed exultingly with all his might. An Eagle sailing through the air pounced upon him and carried him off in his talons. The vanquished Cock immediately came out of his corner, and ruled henceforth with undisputed mastery.
Excellent Post. I enjoyed it even though it is a dig at me. I like witty repartee
In the first post you are looking down on these jobs yourself. And now you are calling others hypocrites.
Atleast try to put some effort in trolling.
Hypocrites are people who say they have respect for Janitors and if a Janitor brings rishta to them their daddy dear would like to kill them. We are but the most class conscious people. Whe I worked in sales possesing a BE degree and MBA, I was turned away by many gold diggers.
Hypocrites are people who say they have respect for Janitors and if a Janitor brings rishta to them their daddy dear would like to kill them. We are but the most class conscious people. Whe I worked in sales possesing a BE degree and MBA, I was turned away by many gold diggers.
Hypocrites are people who look down on others and then deny it and then praise their own perfection, and then look down on others again etc...
