Foundation of MQM

Foundation of MQM

Please don’t consider this thread as hatemonger thread. This is just a historic perspective. In no way it is a personal attack or mockery of anyone. Some MQM lovers think that MQM was not formed by Zia-ul-Haq but I said it was. I want to remove any doubts from the minds of anyone about this fact.

First of all I was very much adult in 80’s, when the dictator’s rule was at peak, when AH came in to scenario of mobilizing Muhajirs in Karachi on the lines of ethnicity. I can still remember the mammoth crowds in mid eighties he had gathered propagating Muhajir cause in Karachi.

To remove the doubts of few that Zia-ul-Haq did not create MQM and Jehadi culture, I am giving the following links that confirm the above statement. If you can provide counter proof to counter this fact you are glad to do so.

Unless we learn to accept the reality on ground, how can this dark and marquee situation of the country will improve?

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070528/main8.htm

Afzal Khan writes from Islamabad
Former army chief Gen Mirza Aslam Beg has said that Gen Zia-ul-Haq was responsible for the formation of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), as he wanted to counter the opposition his regime faced in Sindh. Dr Imran Farooq of the MQM has denied the claim.
In an interview to the Voice of America, General Beg said “most certainly” it was Zia who had the MQM founded. He added that General Musharraf should be asked why he relied on the MQM so much. He said it was under the present government that the offices of MQM’s rival, MQM (Haqeeqi), were shut down and its people sent to jail. The MQM had now come to the aid of the regime in a show of loyalty, he said.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/FA17Df07.html

Ethnic friction
Pakistan’s Punjabi-dominated military assiduously promoted the Mohajirs to counter rising ethno-nationalism among Sindhis. In 1972, a Mohajir taxi driver in the United States, Altaf Hussain, was persuaded by the army to return to Pakistan and float the Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM). Keen on dividing Sindh on ethnic lines, General Zia ul-Haq allowed the MQM to form a network of professional militant bands with a hand in the drug trade of Karachi. In 1988, the city was rocked by unprecedented violence orchestrated by the army using the MQM in order to oust Benazir Bhutto from power.

http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=409

After becoming president he worked for two goals only. a) to get rid of Bhutto and b) Afghan war. Pakistan army has been nervous only in front of two persons, one Jinnah and other Bhutto. But at the time of tussle with Bhutto, Army realised that they have to make sure that there be no person with such a towering and popular personality, therefore Zia and his agencies created MQM, by starting fights between Pathans and Mohajirs in Karachi, and thereafter all CNC’s have patronised and given blessing to MQM and its leader. This is “divide and rule” in practice.

During General Zia’s dictatorship, the MQM had emerged as a highly disciplined party with a well-organized and widespread grassroots network. The party structure virtually mimicked the organizational model of the previously dominant right-wing party the Jamaat-i- Islami.3 Almost all of the Muhajir members of the Jaamat switched their loyalties overnight, as the MQM effectively eliminated the Islamist party’s Karachi base. Tired of the traditional Muhajir stand which has usually revolved around fundamentalist support for a strong center and army and staunch opposition to India, many saw the MQM as a means of solving local issues that had been ignored by previous governments.
http://forum.atimes.com/post.asp?method=TopicQuote&TOPIC_ID=2141&FORUM_ID=22
The earliest political organization of Mohajirs, the All Pakistan Mohajir Student Organization (APMSO) founded in 1978 by Altaf Hussain, evolved into the MQM in 1984. Ethnic and religious divisions in Sindh were exacerbated during the years General Zia-ul Haq was in office (1977 to 1988, of these 1977 to 1985 under martial law) as he used them to suppress and divide democratic opposition to his rule. Ethnic strife between Mohajir and Sindhis who had initially jointly opposed the influx of Punjabis and Pathans into Sindh, rapidly increased in Karachi and Hyderabad from the mid-1980s. The MQM, led by Altaf Hussain, meanwhile consolidated its hold on the Mohajir community. In November 1987, the MQM won local body elections in Karachi, Hyderabad and other urban centres in Sindh.

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Yeah, Zia-ul-Haq also created the sun, moon and the universe. Regurgitating lies and myths don't turn them into truths.

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Taliban, Al Qaida also formed naturally, no funding/training/backing.

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Yeah, Altaf an ex-cabbie jahilia was asked by Zia to come and form this party to counter the power of the PPP, thats a fact.. So MQM is just like Zia's jihadi offspring... They terrorized and extorted in their own way...

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Wasnt APMSO formed in karachi university? So, altaf came back from driving cabs and readmitted himself in a university to make APMSO?

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MQM and Zia supporters do not mesh together. I just don't see any resemblence with these two. Zia manupilated the political system via ISI, but support is real just like it is real for Mullah. Rest are soar grapes for loosing election, time after time.

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shriek11,

No. Altaf was called from NY by the ex-dictator to organize a new party known as MQM to counter PPP in Sindh. Read my first post.

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No. They got aid from uncle sam in 1979. Zia-ul-Haq palyed key role in creating a jehadi culture to counter invasion of Afghanistan by Russia. I don’t know whether you were in the army at that time or not but it is a fact. Read following report.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islamic_militancy_2031

Context of ‘July 3, 1979: President Carter Approves Covert Aid to Anti-Soviet Forces in Afghanistan’

1978: CIA Begins Covert Action in Afghanistan The CIA begins covert action against the Communist government in Afghanistan, which is closely tied to the Soviet Union. Some time this year, the CIA begins training militants in Pakistan and beaming radio propaganda into Afghanistan. By April 1979, US officials are meeting with opponents of the Afghan government to determine their needs. [Blum, 1995, pp. 344] Robert Gates, who will become CIA Director in the early 1990s, will later recall that in a meeting on March 30, 1979, Under Secretary of Defense Walter Slocumbe wonders aloud whether there is “value in keeping the Afghan insurgency going, ‘sucking the Soviets into a Vietnamese quagmire.’” [Gates, 1996, pp. 145] In March 1979, there is a major revolt in Herat province, and in June and August there are large scale army mutinies. [Cooley, 2002, pp. 5] President Carter will formally approve covert aid to opponents of the government in July (see July 3, 1979), which will result in a Russian invasion in December (see December 8, 1979).
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Early 1980: Pakistan Turns to Islamic Fundamentalism after Invasion of Afghanistan
Muhammad Zia ul-Haq. [Source: Associated Press]General Mohammad Zia ul-Haq seized power in Pakistan in a 1977 coup and declared himself president. The US stopped all economic and military aid to Pakistan as a result of the coup and Zia ruled cautiously in an attempt to win international approval. But immediately after the Russian invasion of Afghanistan (see December 8, 1979), the US allies with Zia and resumes aid. This allows Zia to use Islam to consolidate his power without worrying about the international reaction. He passes pro-Islamic legislation, introduces Islamic banking systems, and creates Islamic courts. Most importantly, he creates a new religious tax which is used to create tens of thousands of madrassas, or religious boarding schools. These schools will indoctrinate a large portion of future Islamic militants for decades to come. [Gannon, 2005, pp. 138-142] Zia also promotes military officers on the basis of religious devotion. The Koran and other religious material becomes compulsory reading material in army training courses. “Radical Islamist ideology began to permeate the military and the influence of the most extreme groups crept into the army,” journalist Kathy Gannon will write in her book I is for Infidel. [Gannon, 2005, pp. 138-142] The BBC will later comment that Zia’s self-declared “Islamization” policies created a “culture of jihad” within Pakistan that continues until present day. [BBC, 8/5/2002]

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thora sa "sarcasm" bhi samajh liya karo yaar.

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Sorry Captain Bhai

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maan bhi jao paijee, ab itna ghusa thik nahin hay warna log kahain gay "khasiayni billi khumba nochay":D

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Which is a lie propagated by anti-MQM and other suspect sources. Ataf was never in NY or Chicago (city keeps changing in each version of this story) or anywhere else driving cabs. Everyone knows how APMSO was created and gave birth to MQM. No amount of links from unreliable internet sources will change the truth. Don't compare this to the well established role of ISI, Zia-ul-Haq, CIA, Wahabis in creating jihadism.

It doesn't even make any logical sense why some cab driver in the US would be especially called by the army to create a populist movement among mohajirs. It's so silly that it's not even worth a rebuttal.

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It seems Zia created all the extremists, the ethno-fascists as well as the religio-fascits.

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Ethno-fascists like the PPI?

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No ethno-fascists like MQM. PPI was created as reaction to MQM.

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Created by ISI/MI to crush MQM, so was the MQM-H and jehadis from ST, SSP were given weapons and support to also crush MQM. Which all goes to show that the army/ISI did all in it's power to finish of MQM and failed. This is why the PPI is no longer a major power in Karachi. They are nothing without support of army.

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Its usual for agencies to support rival fascist groups, MQM enjoyed the support then wrath and now support again.

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Even before pre-mqm era, Karachities were against the PPP, the incidents of 1972 and the so-called Tehrek-e-Nizam Mustafa are the evidence of it. Zial Ul Haq was fool enough to create this monster, he would have achieved his objectives by using JI, JUP and JUI as they were stanuch supporters of him.

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That false and baseless movement (1977) caused the demise of democracy in Pakistan. (whatever type of democracy that was).

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Zia-ul-Haq did lay most of the groundwork for the jihadis. Why would the self declared Islamist support a secular progressive partry like MQM?