Tainting all Asian parents with the same filthy brush? Not at all. There are some wonderful parents on Gupshup (my role models) Mamaof3, Sara and many others. It’s the most difficult job in the world but they perform it impeccably and immaculately with so much competence, pride and honour.
im not a parent.
im not a parent.
Does that mean that person is lying. I though Chavy knows both of you personally.
MO3 can be a great mom as she is gori and we praise gori don't we. Pakistani man go after a gori as she can be a gr8 mother than a muslim. Masha Allah.
She can raise a gr8 Muslim kids.
My response to your first post was altered by the moderator Sara who had too much free time for sticking her nose where it doesn't belong (now ban me...rite ?)... She accused me of making 'Personal Attack'....
Isn't calling me morally corrupt the same thing ? where is this Moderator?
but anyways, doesn't bother me. You are just being childish and judgmental. I am an open minded person so I discussed something of personal nature, I am sure if you try to be even half as honest and open as me, I will still not judge you.
Regards
Sorry baby just b/c I don't jump on every single post asap doesnt mean im nto taking care of it. i do it as soon as i get a hcance k?
Regards.
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Sorry I didn't understand your last post, who said anything about gori? Chavy knows nothing...LOL
Sorry baby just b/c I don't jump on every single post asap doesnt mean im nto taking care of it. i do it as soon as i get a hcance k?
Regards.
Yes Mame`
Does that mean that person is lying. I though Chavy knows both of you personally.
MO3 can be a great mom as she is gori and we praise gori don't we. Pakistani man go after a gori as she can be a gr8 mother than a muslim. Masha Allah.
She can raise a gr8 Muslim kids.
No he must be mistaken and I don't know Chavy. Mamaof3...welll naam se hi pata chal ta hai sh'es a mom.
Good, are we all happy now 
Yes…very happy…LOL
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Sara opsie, so sorry, inshallah one day you will make a fantastic parent, you have all the right skills in your armoury. In the meantime there are plenty of kids here who keep you busy and occupied.
Gr8Heera all you posts seem to be negatively inclined towards the Pakistani Diaspora abroad, why do you hate us so much?
Sara opsie, so sorry, inshallah one day you will make a fantastic parent, you have all the right skills in your armoury. In the meantime there are plenty of kids here who keep you busy and occupied.
Gr8Heera all you posts seem to be negatively inclined towards the Pakistani Diaspora abroad, why do you hate us so much?
Simple, I ignore all the posts that I don't like or can't understand.
dont' think that will owrk with real kids =/
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All is well that ends well, ignoring is the best option, otherwise you won't have the time of day to wash your face or comb your hair.
Sara opsie, so sorry, inshallah one day you will make a fantastic parent, you have all the right skills in your armoury. In the meantime there are plenty of kids here who keep you busy and occupied.
Gr8Heera all you posts seem to be negatively inclined towards the Pakistani Diaspora abroad, why do you hate us so much?
On the contrary, I find Gr8Heera from her posts, positive, honest, open and Pakistan loving. What are you talking about Mr. Chavy?...
Mr. Chavy, isn't Sara's skill that she is a moderator one of your favorite ? LOL...There is a wonderful English term for your behavior but I can't write it (it will be censored) but I know you know what I am referring to, starts with an A....LOL
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^ very petty and low indeed
Please do not attempt to malign the character of my friends the girl who left home went to Islamic school, wears abbyiah and hajab she knows it is in her right to marry someone of her choosing mashallah she is very intelligent and the person her parents picked for her was illiterate. My other friend who got a divorce was helped by her brothers to come back to uk only they know where she is her parents don’t. The other girl M the pretty one did end up marrying the guy her parents picked, her life is very complicated (she is very sad) may Allah swt make her hardships easier for her and her children.
Also have you never heard of children being promised because of a business deals, family pressure on the parents.
I have seen many sad cases esp when i helped out at an Asian women's association (another source of help if people are experiencing problems)
sometimes we like to think the world is perfect and evil things dont happen, but it is more shameful to pretend they do not exist and make excuses for them. Just remember you will have no excuses in front of Allah then what will you do.
Abaya and scarf can't be a prove of person that she didn't do anything wrong.
I saw girls with scarf kissing her bf on the bus going with bf by holding his hand. Those girls Islam ka bhi mazaq bana deteen hain. PPl point finger see that muslim is doing that. Agar scarf pehanti ho to uska ahtaram bhi karo kum uz kum dunia kay samnay gunah bhi karo to chup kar karo takay Islam ko aur musalman ko to koi bura na kahain chund logon ki ghalti ko.
Wasn't her parents letting her to get educted and then why they all of a sudden marry her to an illeterate person that is imposibble to imagine. I know a story a girl fall in love use to write letters to bf when parents knew about that married that girl to his fahters friend. She was a good girl and married. Didn't run away from home. Sabar kar kay shadi kar li. I'll say she was a shareef girl.
A girl who leave home is a bad person for me. I'm like agar maan baap bilawajah bhi qatl kar rahay hon to karnay do wo gunahgar hon gay ghar say na bhago agar ghairatmand larki ho gi to. Kay ghar say bhaag kar kia janay uskay saath kia ho. Larki ki izzat hi sub say bari cheez hai aur uski hifazat sub say aham.
Aik shareef larki hazar baar sochay gi kay bhag kar wo kahan jaay gi aur jahan bhi jaay gi wahan uskay saath na janay kia ho.
Aap ki baat meri zahan ki logic say balatar hai.
Why would ppl force to their own daughter without any reason to marry an illiterate person. Yeah they can force for a good rishta.
Sara opsie, so sorry, inshallah one day you will make a fantastic parent, you have all the right skills in your armoury. In the meantime there are plenty of kids here who keep you busy and occupied.
Gr8Heera all you posts seem to be negatively inclined towards the Pakistani Diaspora abroad, why do you hate us so much?
Shabash her kisi ko achchi dua hi dena chahyay. Jhooti/jhoota.
No not at all what I see here I post whithout any persons khauf but Allah's fear I always say and tell truth.
I don't hate anyone dear if girl. I do not that heart which can hate anyone. I can't even hate to my dushman.
I just tell the truth what I saw and listen. I say things in a very straight forward way no lagi lipti no sugar coated.
Such karwi hoti hai I know logon ko bardasht naheen hoti I know that too. Imaandaar logon ko such bolnay aur sunnay main bura naheen lugta.
No he must be mistaken and I don't know Chavy. Mamaof3...welll naam se hi pata chal ta hai sh'es a mom.
LOL MO3 kay naam say hi mamta tapakti hai jo sub ko nazar aati hai posts main. lol
Yayhi mamta tapkti daikh kar unka hubby musalmaan bhi unka deewana ho gia aur shadi kar baitha kay is say zabardast koi maan naheen ho sakti meray buchchon ko bahtareen musalmaan bananay wali. lol
Mujhay to MO3 say bahtareen Musalmaniaat ki boo ati hai aur Uskay buchchon say Khulwfaa jaisi boo ati hai lol.
Yay baat to maanni paray gi GS bhi un say aisay hi thora hi impress huwa hai jo mod bana dia akhir wo Pakistan aur Islam kay baray main itna zabardast janti hai kay wahan ki shakal na daikh kar bhi qasida khuwani kar sakti hain.
She is gr8 Muslimah.
I know a story a girl fall in love use to write letters to bf when parents knew about that married that girl to his fahters friend. She was a good girl and married. Didn't run away from home. Sabar kar kay shadi kar li. I'll say she was a shareef girl.
Culture taking precedence over Islam. The daughter has the right to chose her partner.
A girl who leave home is a bad person for me. I'm like agar maan baap bilawajah bhi qatl kar rahay hon to karnay do wo gunahgar hon gay ghar say na bhago agar ghairatmand larki ho gi to.
Justice will be eventually done in the hereafter. But that's no consolation in this life. If the daughter is emotionally devastated, how will she cope. Vicious cycle of events will unfold, her marriage, her children will be adversely affected, the destruction will expand exponentially. Deal with it here and now to limit the damage. Should we allow a rapist to pillage and purge unabated, destroying all that lies in his path? If the parents are committing a crime they should be told the folly of their ways (not accepted blindly) how else will they change.
Why would ppl force to their own daughter without any reason to marry an illiterate person. Yeah they can force for a good rishta.
I gave my reasons, see previous post.
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^great post
@gr8Heera Firstly like i said don’t malign the character of my friend you don’t know her or what she has been through. Why do you have the mentality of a person where everything is the girls are fault. you have no idea what kind of environment she has come from. She went to Islamic girls only school, she got 12 A* at GCSE she wanted to be a doctor. Her dads relatives said it is not a good idea for girls to be too educated, then because her dad owed his brother money they wanted her to marry a son of theirs who had not even passed metric. The guy could not string a sentence of English together and you’re saying she would have been happy with him. she felt her last resort was to leave.
Maybe you might be able to survive in a marriage which isn’t well thought or partners are not compatible, but how would you feel if you where sold in marriage for a debt and a passport.
Secondly you are right there are always two sides of the coin yes SOME girls who wear hajab do have bf etc but do not try to justify wrongs by more wrongs. If parents see their daughter doing misdeeds then they should correct them, marrying someone off will not stabilise the girls or put them on the correct path to Allah.To me this seems like the parents washing their hands, ad being unfit to fufil their role properly. The girls will just do the acts in their inlaws house, because getting married to them is the biggest freedom.
There are all kinds of people in the world but to restrict your point of view for the sake of arguing or being unable to have any empathy will only restrict you in life. Look at your soul and think about what you are writing, because justifying something which is CLEARLY FORBIDDEN BY ALLAH swt with excuses by stating my friend was promiscuous because you saw a hajabi kissing her bf so you generalised that all girls do this. How would you feel if someone did this to you?
Don’t misguide people and tell them to live in fear and disregard the word of Allah swt. I never justified my friend leaving home. That is why I said if your parents are going to physically harm you, then you leave and make sure it is the last resort. Just as forced marriages are haram in Islam, we must all remember to respect our parents and find a balanced answer to problems which can be highly emotional and distressing to all parties involved, but a person should never compromise religion over culture.
On the contrary, I find Gr8Heera from her posts, positive, honest, open and Pakistan loving.
What he/she didn't give you honest about your infidelity? Go ahead gr8Heera - I would love to see your response to that one.